4everacanuck13 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 This guy needs to get traded away if we want to win games, i mean i understand he has the heart of a canuck. But he's really painful to watch, guy has a slow shot, slow and bad decisions, slow skating, bad passes. he was really good, but we just have to move on from him because hes not capable of what he was able to do in 2011-12. I love kevin but hes just declining big time. He took a penalty that caused us a game TBL last night. Calgary, he was passing the puck that slowed the play down in a bad way. Everything else in canucks is very entertaining to watch, except for Bieksa. everytime hes on the ice, it seems to always turn into our defensive end and it creates chances for the other team.. im just saying , if we want to make the playoffs, we need to get rid of guys like this. I mean hes suppose to be paired with hamhuis on top pairing but we have Sbisa playing his role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Trading Bieksa makes this team even softer. We have no other d-men who can fight like he can. And while some may try to argue that it's unimportant in today's NHL, it's necessary when a Sedin gets run. He's still effective and protects his teammates. He stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftmN Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 welcome to cdc, thanks for wasting everyone's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackknife Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I do not believe that is a fair assessment of Bieksa. The fact that TBL scored when he was in the box might be because Bieksa is a penalty killer. And really, he is one of our more physical D's that will confront other team's goons. Remember that one match with Calgary where Tort's blew his head off? Bieksa was as classy as can be in that situation. He brings leadership that physicality that our younger guns can learn from. He doesn't score goals or make nice passes - this is true. It is also true that we never held onto him as a puck moving defensemen. He is not Duncan Keith or PK Subban, but he's useful to us in his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 If we were to trade everyone who can't do what they did in 2011, it would make for quite a procession out the door. Er...wait a minute. That's what I've been calling for! Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 This guy needs to get traded away if we want to win games, i mean i understand he has the heart of a canuck. But he's really painful to watch, guy has a slow shot, slow and bad decisions, slow skating, bad passes. he was really good, but we just have to move on from him because hes not capable of what he was able to do in 2011-12. I love kevin but hes just declining big time. He took a penalty that caused us a game TBL last night. Calgary, he was passing the puck that slowed the play down in a bad way. Everything else in canucks is very entertaining to watch, except for Bieksa. everytime hes on the ice, it seems to always turn into our defensive end and it creates chances for the other team.. im just saying , if we want to make the playoffs, we need to get rid of guys like this. I mean hes suppose to be paired with hamhuis on top pairing but we have Sbisa playing his role. Oh here we go again. Slow shot? No. Bad decisions - at times, agreed. More swing and a miss type stuff - happens. But how quickly you people forget what he does bring. Do we have other guys going to bat if needed?...he keeps opponents in check. He had an assist last night...you know, contributed on a goal? That counts. He laid it out there to try and clear the puck on a potential scoring chance. He bad. A penalty doesn't "cause" a goal...he's in the box, the guys on the kill and in net get a crack at it too. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 This guy needs to get traded away if we want to win games, i mean i understand he has the heart of a canuck. But he's really painful to watch, guy has a slow shot, slow and bad decisions, slow skating, bad passes. he was really good, but we just have to move on from him because hes not capable of what he was able to do in 2011-12. I love kevin but hes just declining big time. He took a penalty that caused us a game TBL last night. Calgary, he was passing the puck that slowed the play down in a bad way. Everything else in canucks is very entertaining to watch, except for Bieksa. everytime hes on the ice, it seems to always turn into our defensive end and it creates chances for the other team.. im just saying , if we want to make the playoffs, we need to get rid of guys like this. I mean hes suppose to be paired with hamhuis on top pairing but we have Sbisa playing his role. Your clueless. This is the kind of garbage that was being spewed when he got his calf cut twice. He bounced back in 2011 pretty well didnt he? He is still a good top 4 dman and a leader on a team that needs them. Bieksa isnt the problem. This team is missing a top 2 puck rushing dman,. Pretty obvious in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezy Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Bieksa won't say so, so we'll say so here on the CDC boards on his behalf...he was injured in the pre-season game vs. the Oilers and was a game time decision vs. the Flames. I'm presuming that he's still battling whatever is ailing him, so once he's back to full health, I'm sure his game will come back. And while we're on the topic of little aches and pains, Hamhuis didn't play so great against the Lightning...but as WD explained, he didn't sleep very well the night before on the account of Arcobello's stick to the beak. We gotta battle through these minor injuries, but explains some of less than perfect performances. Okay, flame away all who think that we should never use injuries as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well, interesting...just checked your history to see you're rallying to the defense of Hansen while wanting to boot Bieksa. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think he would do good in the bottom pairing with Stanton. Edler-Tanev Hamhuis-Sbisa Stanton-Bieksa He gets exposed often when he plays against top lines. We can't trade him though. His teammates love him and he brings a lot of grit to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockeye Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Here we go again, another trade Bieksa thread. Are you a troll? He is the toughest Canuck D and had a very good season last year (let's not talk about Edler's season which was a total disaster). Bieksa logs big minutes and justifiably so. He's a heart and soul Canuck who I hope can stay with the team until he retires. Bieksa had a solid game against TBay. Why do you think all the coaches in the past few years have Bieksa logging big minutes? Because he is reliable. Bieksa took a penalty on a diving reach and he looked like he hit the puck first; either way, he took the penalty but likely saved a goal. I have no problem with that play by Kevin. Kevin has just come off an injury; like Hammer (who had a so so game, understandably). The first couple of games, Sbisa looked well below average and coughed up the puck a couple of times (once, right to an Oiler 10 feet in front of our net). Edler was coughing up the puck too. On the positive side, Sbisa and Edler really looked like they picked up their game against Tampa Bay. Let's wait about 20 games before we overreact and talk about trading this guy and that guy. I like the looks of our D but it's still too early to tell. This next road trip will provide a bit of a guage but it's still way too early to make judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 We need leaders like this, not many players stand up to our top players like Bieksa does. He's a warrior, he isn't a top-notch defenceman but he can still skate, hit and shoot the puck. Plays a protoypical old-school defenceman game, Bieksa, Burrows, Sedins are the players we need for experience and leadership. Been with the Canucks since the start, fan favourites, how can you say you want to get rid of Bieksa? These 4 need to stay. Bieksa also compliments Stanton well IMO, both are good skating, physical defenceman who can rush the puck up the ice. That pairing is really underrated, both work hard, hard-nosed players and I think Stanton can learn alot and improve him game playing with Bieksa. Don Cherry loves Bieksa and Seabrook so you know those 2 are players you need for a good hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ain't nothin' slow about juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetliner Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 no. lets trade u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 At least he's not Brent Sopel... 4 games in,chill. I'd only want to see him traded for a serious upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He's got more pros that cons. If he leaves it's because we're continuing, if not accelerating the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Bieksa brings too much to the Canucks to trade him now. His toughness and team leadership can't be taught or easly acquired in a trade. And with a shift towards youth, you need veteran leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefGormley Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Bieksa brings too much to the Canucks to trade him now. His toughness and team leadership can't be taught or easly acquired in a trade. And with a shift towards youth, you need veteran leadership. ^this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Stupid to trade Bieksa right now, even if he is playing like crap. He'll come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 He's a solid #5 on a contender. But everything about him is awkward, from the way he skates with the puck to his pathetic attempts to squeak his wrist shot through. That being said, our defense would get toyed with without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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