73 Percent Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I quickly searched for this article posted with no luck. I also thought this deserves its own thread aside from the remembrance day thread. Rant with me CDC.http://m.torontosun.com/2014/11/10/lest-only-some-of-us-forget Now I know this day should not be controversial. This is a day we remember those who gave us a tomorrow. It is a day to be thankful for everyone and everything in your life because theres a large chance that you wouldn't have many of those things if it weren't for the brave. This isnt some imaginary religious thing that may or may not happened. This happens every day. Women abdOmen leave their family for us. Us meaning everyoneethat calls this country home. Im disgusted, hurt, embarrassed, and just plain old enraged. How do you guys feel about this. Like is taking an hour or 2 out of your ENTIRE YEAR that big a deal that you cant even humour us? Is there something I can do that you guys can think of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Those people have the freedom to leave Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 When being PC goes so far it comes full circle and is no longer PC. No one is exempt from remembering fallen Canadian soldiers in any circumstance...other than not being Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What's controversial about that? Remembrance day isn't for everyone. "Remembrance Day (also known as Poppy Day) is a memorial day observed in Commonwealth of Nations member states since the end of the First World War to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty." So if you're not part of the "Commonwealth of Nations", it doesn't mean much... Yes, I agree, if you immigrated to another country you should adopt some of their customs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 When being PC goes so far it comes full circle and is no longer PC. No one is exempt from remembering fallen Canadian soldiers in any circumstance...other than not being Canadian. PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 "It’s a disgrace that any family would object to it – especially an immigrant family who came here to benefit from our country. It would call into question the basis on which they applied for and were granted citizenship." This quote is bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 What's controversial about that? Remembrance day isn't for everyone. "Remembrance Day (also known as Poppy Day) is a memorial day observed in Commonwealth of Nations member states since the end of the First World War to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty." So if you're not part of the "Commonwealth of Nations", it doesn't mean much... Yes, I agree, if you immigrated to another country you should adopt some of their customs...it's controversial because its a small price to pay for a place to live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cackerot Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Sounds like an opinion piece on one person who just wants to start some sort of controersy. I'm Muslim and almost my entire class was Muslim all the way through highschool and not a single one didn't participate in a rememberance day celebration. Heck, even my parents came out for many of the years. I can point to some white families who don't celebrate remembrance day because they think war is bad, blah blah blah but it doesn't vindicate anything about whatever beliefs they hold. They're just shitty people and we need to acknowlege that and label them as shitty people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If you have moved to a commonwealth nation and are enjoying the freedoms and rights of that country that countless individuals laid down their lives to maintain then it is your debt to them to show respect on November 11th. To do anything else is shameful and a complete disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What's controversial about that? Remembrance day isn't for everyone. "Remembrance Day (also known as Poppy Day) is a memorial day observed in Commonwealth of Nations member states since the end of the First World War to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty." So if you're not part of the "Commonwealth of Nations", it doesn't mean much... Yes, I agree, if you immigrated to another country you should adopt some of their customs... Yes, that is true but it is a sign of respect. The war(s) that they refer to are not only just the World War, they mean every single soldier that has given their life to serve this country. Are you telling me that one religion shouldn't heed to the service. This quote from the article sums it up for me: "Or maybe it’s that we are wrong today. Because if you look at all the recent wars and military missions Canada has done, it’s all been in Muslim lands. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I support Remembrance day 100% and think they're foolish/ignorant/whatever for wanting to "opt out." That being said, you get the feeling this is getting a little extra (lot extra) push into the media because they're Muslim. As someone pointed out, they're not the first to "object" (as much as I think it's beyond disrespectful that they do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If you have moved to a commonwealth nation and are enjoying the freedoms and rights of that country that countless individuals laid down their lives to maintain then it is your debt to them to show respect on November 11th. To do anything else is shameful and a complete disgrace. Sounds like an opinion piece on one person who just wants to start some sort of controersy. I'm Muslim and almost my entire class was Muslim all the way through highschool and not a single one didn't participate in a rememberance day celebration. Heck, even my parents came out for many of the years. I can point to some white families who don't celebrate remembrance day because they think war is bad, blah blah blah but it doesn't vindicate anything about whatever beliefs they hold. They're just crapty people and we need to acknowlege that and label them as crapty people. I guess im as crapty and disgraceful as it gets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What the hell is the big deal. School Remembrance Day assemblies consist of students sitting there for an hour and listening to stories or presentations and singing the anthem at the beginning or end. But yeah - opinion piece this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What the hell is the big deal. School Remembrance Day assemblies consist of students sitting there for an hour and listening to stories or presentations and singing the anthem at the beginning or end. But yeah - opinion piece this is It's a respect issue. It is very necessary that we educate and remind eachother that the freedoms we take for granted each moment of our lives came at the price of millions of others. To not be humbled and show respect for such a fact is disgusting. It's important that as generations go by that we do not lose touch with that reality and continue to honour and respect those who served and continue to serve in order to maintain our freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's a respect issue. It is very necessary that we educate and remind eachother that the freedoms we take for granted each moment of our lives came at the price of millions of others. To not be humbled and show respect for such a fact is disgusting.Im glad your with me on this one Magikal. This is a very touchy subject for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Yes, that is true but it is a sign of respect. The war(s) that they refer to are not only just the World War, they mean every single soldier that has given their life to serve this country. Are you telling me that one religion shouldn't heed to the service. This quote from the article sums it up for me: "Or maybe it’s that we are wrong today. Because if you look at all the recent wars and military missions Canada has done, it’s all been in Muslim lands. " Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's a respect issue. It is very necessary that we educate and remind eachother that the freedoms we take for granted each moment of our lives came at the price of millions of others. To not be humbled and show respect for such a fact is disgusting. It's important that as generations go by that we do not lose touch with that reality and continue to honour and respect those who served and continue to serve in order to maintain our freedom That's what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Exactly. So the sacrifices of WW1, WW2 and the Korean War all get thrown out because you disagree with the conflict in the Middle East? Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 So the sacrifices of WW1, WW2 and the Korean War all get thrown out because you disagree with the conflict in the Middle East? Pathetic. Edit: read that wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, flyScarce heard amid the guns below.We are the Dead. Short days agoWe lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields.Take up our quarrel with the foe:To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who dieWe shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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