Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Like mulling over deals that meet the needs for both sides. If one considers TBay an immediate contender, & that Calgary is 3~5 years away, I'd see this as a sensible deal. Top D-men seem the most precious resource, & Gio is signed for another season at only 4 mill. Tampa is so loaded up front, & I believe they landed 2 more 1st's in the Callahan-heist. Yzerman should go all-in, while the East is up for grabs. Cal:Giordano & Ortio(young gt) TBay: Drouin, Vasilevsky, NYR/TBay 2015 1st(Cal gets the better pick). 2nd idea: Tampa sends a package with Killorn/Kucherov, a 1st(whichever 2015 is higher), & Koekkoek/DeAngelo -Bit of guess-work involved here, as I admittedly haven't seen all prospects in play(value may be well off). I realize Giordano is having a season worthy of a great captain, yet such deals could sure set the Flames up, long-term. Anyone else see a nice fit here? How would you adjust value/packages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Calgary should not trade Giordano. They'll become a good team soon and he will still be young enough to be a huge part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^That said..could you imagine the fireworks if they had guys like Monahan, Bennett, DROUIN, Gaudreau & Backlund in a few years? Whoa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Calgary could for sure get a massive return for Giordano but they should wait to see if they're in position to make the playoffs first before considering a move like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^That said..could you imagine the fireworks if they had guys like Monahan, Bennett, DROUIN, Gaudreau & Backlund in a few years? Whoa! Definitely would be good, but it'd be like Colorado, no D. Not to mention Gioradno causes guys like Gaudreau to be even more successful due to his puck moving abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 WC, It's a good counter, especially if Gio is enthusiastic to remain there on a reasonable contract. I'll be curious to see how this plays out, in the event Giordano would like to win sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I can't see any team giving up what Calgary would seek in return for Giordano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^AP..Seriously? Someone offers you a 2013(stud year) top-3 talent, highly regarded gt prospect, AND another pick in this upcoming draft, & you wouldn't really mull it over? Afraid to ask, what would you expect them to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 no way lightning gives up drouin they have a bunch of youngsters why would they trade for a dman when they can draft one and build a team from within makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^CT, You may be right, & I may be crazy(sorry Mr Joel); yet I see parallels between the current TBay incarnation & the late '80s Flamers..Gawd, them guys had a stable of 50 goal-snipers..to a point they even squandered Brett Hull... Nieuwyndyk...Stamkos Fleury..Johnson Gilmour..Callahan Roberts..Killorn/Connolly? Bullard, Joe Mullen, Loob, et al (all these Flames potted 50, except perhaps the versatile Roberts) You might also compare the latter Flame fwds with the depth TBay has. Calgary had decent D too: MacInnis, Suter, Macoun & others. Vernon was a wildcard, as Bishop is now. Joel Otto played a role akin to Brian Boyle. Flamers swung a key deal to bring in Rob Ramage..Might be a parallel for TBay? Yzerman would be cognizant of all these lessons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^AP..Seriously? Someone offers you a 2013(stud year) top-3 talent, highly regarded gt prospect, AND another pick in this upcoming draft, & you wouldn't really mull it over? Afraid to ask, what would you expect them to add? my bad... I think I worded this poorly. I don't think any team is willing to offer that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^Yet who cares about yesterday's weather, right? I want to know tomorrow's. So I think these two could scratch each other's back, & hit the spot with precision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaslundLindenBure Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 First trade tb gives up wayy to much The second offer is imo almost there value wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 ^AP..Seriously? Someone offers you a 2013(stud year) top-3 talent, highly regarded gt prospect, AND another pick in this upcoming draft, & you wouldn't really mull it over? Afraid to ask, what would you expect them to add? But that's just it - Tampa would be crazy to offer that for Giordano when they already have Hedman, and have added supporting pieces like Garrison. They'd rather keep all those things as each individual piece is worth more in value to Tampa than the corresponding piece from Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Ya I don't think either team considers this. Tampa has great pieces all around, both youth and veterans. Although Giordana would be an amazing addition, they are giving up so much young talent in this deal. And Calgary is finally achieving, so trading their star player for a rebuild package is a shot to the gut even if it long term would be a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALGARY! Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 No way would I even consider this from Calgary's point of view. I have never been a Drouin fan, I still think he rode McKinnons coat tails into his high draft position. Plus TB has Hedman whose not even in his prime yet. Why would Calgary give up their near PPG Dman(And Captain) who still has 5ish years of really solid play left in him for another forward prospect. We have lots and lots of depth at the forward positions in terms of prospects. Plus Giordano is doing great in mentoring the other Dmen here, ie Brodie, and to a lesser extent Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Cal-dude, Thanks for your insight/response..btw, do you see the parallels between the current Lightning lineup(Yzerman's assembled), & the late-'80s Flames, which I mentioned a few posts back? I lived in Cal at that time, for a few yrs(displaced Nux-fan), & certainly recall their late-80s dominance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALGARY! Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Cal-dude, Thanks for your insight/response..btw, do you see the parallels between the current Lightning lineup(Yzerman's assembled), & the late-'80s Flames, which I mentioned a few posts back? I lived in Cal at that time, for a few yrs(displaced Nux-fan), & certainly recall their late-80s dominance. Im not sure, Yzerman has assembled quite a group, I think his drafting record was fantastic, the only change I would have made, would be to pass on Drouin and grab Jones to further tighten up the D Core. Yeah I read your post, your right about the Flames having a glut of 50 goal scorers, and we lost alot of them in crappy deals or let them walk IE Gilmour, Hull etc. Those were the good old days, I don't think in todays game of salary caps and league parity that you would be able to see teams such as the 80s Oilers/Islanders/Flames/Canadiens assembled anymore. In a way its too bad, it is kind of nice having some teams be soo dominant, nowadays anyone can win on any night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 ^Is it possible they nabbed Drouin thinking Stammer wouldn't remain forever? Agree that I'd probably have nabbed Seth J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALGARY! Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe they grabbed him because they were unsure about St.Louis at the time, but since they would up getting Callahan back for him it didnt end up being that bad. I think Stevie Y is one of the best GM's in the league today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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