Derp... Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well Barzal has the tools to be a first line center. Better chance than Harkins, but I could see us taking Harkins. That was my guess form the beginning of the year. IF Barzal is available I think we have to take him as the BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Oh....me thinks we are a key injury away from plummeting and pickin high again. Just barely clingin onto a playoff position with teams like Winnipeg and Calgary pickin up steam.... Guys like Burrows, Higgins and now it seems others are spinning wheels in the mud. If say a Sedin gets injured we are D-O-N-E If that happens....fire sale time Burrows-retain a million if need be..surely AV and Rangers could use him and he waive to go there. He liked playing for Tippet at last years WC so there is a chance he would go there..Montreal? Surely there is atleast a 2nd to be had for ol Burr Higgins-Servicable warrior..surely teams like Islanders, Bruins, Rangers, Pens, Sens, could also use his muckery in the playoffs. ..should also fetch a 2nd/prospect..he has term at a decent price Bieksa-Teams looking for RHS vet defenseman on decent salary should be lining up for Juices services..Det, TB, Wsh, even a few western teams begging for a guy like Kev. Surely gets us a 1st/prospect. TB holds 2-1sts and would surely deal one for hopes of getting a longer playoff run. Would they deal theirs? Or the pick from Rangers? Even Toronto...they are in fear of losing Franso at years end...who better to replace him with than Kev and they both make same salary...Tor 1st would be nice If we fall that far in the standings, there are a few surprise prospects falling as well. Most notably Dylan Strome falling to #7 in ISS rankings...bag this guy and he eliminates all the Ry-Jo proposals and sets us up for Henriks eventual slide down to the 2nd line. Getting a franchise center is more needed than a defenseman....imo. Yes, we have McCann, Horvat, Cassels etc..but none will be 1st liners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 *cough* RASMUS ANDERSSON *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I would not be surprised if Barzal is still available when we pick. It'll depend on possible factors like whether or not he'll fall in the rankings due to his injury, other players rising in the rankings (Harkins, Rantanen, Meier, etc.), and of course, where we finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Oh....me thinks we are a key injury away from plummeting and pickin high again. Just barely clingin onto a playoff position with teams like Winnipeg and Calgary pickin up steam.... Guys like Burrows, Higgins and now it seems others are spinning wheels in the mud. If say a Sedin gets injured we are D-O-N-E If that happens....fire sale time Burrows-retain a million if need be..surely AV and Rangers could use him and he waive to go there. He liked playing for Tippet at last years WC so there is a chance he would go there..Montreal? Surely there is atleast a 2nd to be had for ol Burr Higgins-Servicable warrior..surely teams like Islanders, Bruins, Rangers, Pens, Sens, could also use his muckery in the playoffs. ..should also fetch a 2nd/prospect..he has term at a decent price Bieksa-Teams looking for RHS vet defenseman on decent salary should be lining up for Juices services..Det, TB, Wsh, even a few western teams begging for a guy like Kev. Surely gets us a 1st/prospect. TB holds 2-1sts and would surely deal one for hopes of getting a longer playoff run. Would they deal theirs? Or the pick from Rangers? Even Toronto...they are in fear of losing Franso at years end...who better to replace him with than Kev and they both make same salary...Tor 1st would be nice If we fall that far in the standings, there are a few surprise prospects falling as well. Most notably Dylan Strome falling to #7 in ISS rankings...bag this guy and he eliminates all the Ry-Jo proposals and sets us up for Henriks eventual slide down to the 2nd line. Getting a franchise center is more needed than a defenseman....imo. Yes, we have McCann, Horvat, Cassels etc..but none will be 1st liners I'm all over this. I secretly want the Canucks to go 0-5 on this coming road trip, and there's a real possibility they could go 1 and 4. While it's commendable that this core is showing it's competitive spirit, it just reminds me of an old 82 Honda Civic, used to be great back in the day, but after years of service just struggles to climb the hill. The games aren't easy for the players, it's like they're constantly struggling to maintain control over games, and the other teams who often are younger and faster just pile on too much for them to handle. The last game I think the Canucks were really able to go toe to toe and hold their own, was the last game against Detroit, but they're the same as us. Old, slow, puck possession. This league is quickly becoming a North-South league again, which I'm all for because it's frankly much more exciting hockey to watch. All of the guys on this team individually are good, and have significant value as complimentary pieces, but as the core pieces of a team's make up they just aren't able to get it done. Or perhaps another apt analogy would be David Wooderson (Matthew McConaughey's character from Dazed and Confused). Used to be the man in High School, enters the real world, can't continue the glory from his old days so needs to try and fit in where he doesn't (with the next generation of High School kids). 2010/2011 was this core's "Senior year" in high school. Since then, it's been a downhill slide since entering the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Honestly i just want a Weber type defence man. Team needs some grit on the backend, that also has a cannon of a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'd love to land Barzal. Barzal, Horvat, McCann, Cassels down the middle would be pretty slick down the road. Two RH, Two LH, Tons of two-way play and untapped offense. Plus, you know. Local Kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'd love to land Barzal. Barzal, Horvat, McCann, Cassels down the middle would be pretty slick down the road. Two RH, Two LH, Tons of two-way play and untapped offense. Plus, you know. Local Kid. too small down the middle there Barzal-6' Horvat-6'1 McCann-5'11 Skill is one thing....size also matters LA-Kopitar, Carter Chi-Toews Bos-Bergeron (size on wings and mammoth on D helped too) LA-Kopitar, Carter Pens-Malkin ANA-Getzlaf Need size in the middle and its proven year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 hey guys sorry this topic probably wont be finished for another couple of days but it will be worth it, its pretty late right now so ill finish working on it after school tomorrow, please dont lock it... thanks Is there going to be more to it/will it not be redundant/is it really official compared to the other draft threads in this sub-forum already? 2015 Draft prospects 2015 Draft Canuck Prediction Mock Draft 1.0 - 2015 Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 too small down the middle there Barzal-6' Horvat-6'1 McCann-5'11 Skill is one thing....size also matters LA-Kopitar, Carter Chi-Toews Bos-Bergeron (size on wings and mammoth on D helped too) LA-Kopitar, Carter Pens-Malkin ANA-Getzlaf Need size in the middle and its proven year after year. The prospective wingers will help with that (Virtanen, Jensen, Kassian, Gaunce, Grenier, LaBate) but we wouldn't be massive by any stretch with Shink and Vey also in the mix. Still, size without any top line center talent is probably worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Like others have said, BPA. I know everyone wants that elite PMD prospect, but they are very rare. So unless we end up with a safer pick like Hannifin, it's a guessing game. Edit: Also should note that teams in last years draft that didn't go with the BPA passed on Fabbri, Kapanen, and McCann. It's just the better route to go. Unless all players look the same, then think about specific needs (like Benning said). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Is there going to be more to it/will it not be redundant/is it really official compared to the other draft threads in this sub-forum already? 2015 Draft prospects 2015 Draft Canuck Prediction Mock Draft 1.0 - 2015 Just curious. if you look at filip ahl as the example and multiply that by the over 50 of the top prospects, weekly polls and whatever else i can think of, i just thought i would help people learn about the prospects everything an armchair scout needs in one place if you want you can merge the other ones into this one... oh wait your not a mod jk^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Shinkaruk, Horvat, Cassels, Gaunce, McCann, Virtanen, Jensen and Vey (if you count him). I guess I want more out of our late picks, I want later than 1st rounders to have top 9 potential. All we've been doing is drafting defenceman late or guys who might not even make the AHL like Beattie, LaBate or long shots at the NHL in Friesen, Zalewski, Archibald, Kenins, Pettit, Fox, Grenier. These guys are pretty much long-shots at the NHL or atleast a top 9 role. Great, our first rounders have top 9 upside. What else? I want to see some more 3rd-4th rounders used on forwards, not Pettits but guys like Cassels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Axel Holmstrom. Would have been a nice add last year in the 6th. Matt Mistele, Olas Matthson, Chase Lang etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks1219 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Here is Roope Hintz, a Finnish draft-eligible player playing in the top Finnish league (Liiga). He has great size and, as the video shows, has great skating and hockey smarts. He is not currently ranked in the top-30 but he has the size, scoring, skating, and smarts to become at the very least an above average third line winger. Granted, it's just highlights of his WJC, but his blend of desirable traits makes him an intriguing prospect for sure. His flow-game is on point too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqu9NPPwW2I *cough* RASMUS ANDERSSON *cough* Not if we are picking where I think we will (late-teens~20). I'd go for him with a pick about 25~onwards. too small down the middle there Barzal-6' Horvat-6'1 McCann-5'11 Skill is one thing....size also matters LA-Kopitar, Carter Chi-Toews Bos-Bergeron (size on wings and mammoth on D helped too) LA-Kopitar, Carter Pens-Malkin ANA-Getzlaf Need size in the middle and its proven year after year. Correction: McCann is not 5'11. He was a shade over 6 feet (6'0.25) at the draft combine. I don't disagree that we'd be quite small down the middle though. If we do draft Barzal (either because he drops or our season goes to poop), our centre depth (the top end) would look like this: Barzal (5'11~6'0) Horvat (6'0.5) McCann (6'0.25) Cassels (6'0) Gaunce (6'2") We've got three big potential top-6 wingers in Jensen (6'3/203 lbs), Kassian (6'3/215 lbs), and Virtanen (6'1/207 lbs.) but Vey is 5'10~5'11 (he is NOT 6'0 like he is listed) and Shinkaruk is in the same ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 So is Barzal a bonified 1st line center? or is it all smoke and mirrors because he is a local guy? I believe Barzal was ranked as high as 5th or something on the earlier draft rankings. Due to injury hes slide a bit but has a lot of tools that could make him a potential #1 center. He's still so young though hard to say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shcott Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Anyone know much about Mitchell Vande Sompel? Looks like he's putting up good points as a defencemen in the ohl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Great, our first rounders have top 9 upside. What else? I want to see some more 3rd-4th rounders used on forwards, not Pettits but guys like Cassels. Cassels' development is not typical of third rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Cassels' development is not typical of third rounders.It's not but neither is Buchnevich's, Duclair's, Bjorkstrand's, Slepshev's, Yakimov's, Andrighetto's, Verhaeghe's or Baptiste's development. Seems like that might have been a deep draft which it was. The guys I listed are exceeding expectations along with Cassels but teams are thinking wow, we really missed out on alot of studs. So I guess it would almost be a disappointment of a pick if Cassels didn't develop this well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 It's not but neither is Buchnevich's, Duclair's, Bjorkstrand's, Slepshev's, Yakimov's, Andrighetto's, Verhaeghe's or Baptiste's development. Seems like that might have been a deep draft which it was. The guys I listed are exceeding expectations along with Cassels but teams are thinking wow, we really missed out on alot of studs. So I guess it would almost be a disappointment of a pick if Cassels didn't develop this well. i really like Bjorkstrand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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