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So predictable what peoples' reactions to this are. "Technology is ruining us" / "The new generation sucks" etc. Probably because kids have been immature since the beginning of time. If it wasn't cell phones back in the day, it was something else. I've heard stories from my parents as well as former teaches, and some of their stories are just as bad if not worse than this, and that's saying something. These incidents happened anywhere from 20-60 years ago. I think that each generation has it's own problems based on the time they grew up in, but in no way is our culture doomed because of smartphones. Obviously this kid deserves the punishment he's getting, but it's one kid who just happens to have got on the internet when similar things are happening every day and have happened every day for many years.

Cell phone jammers are illegal I believe.

Even if they are, it doesn't mean they can't be used as a solution. Analogous to marijuana, it is currently illegal, but that doesn't mean it isn't used in certain situations.

An alternative could be a Faraday cage, essentially a grounded conductive shield surrounding each classroom of interest. Obviously that would be more expensive and a much greater undertaking to install. But many buildings have existing metal layers as firewalls too. They could be grounded block signals entering or exiting the room.

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Just think about what you're saying and stay in class. You'd have to jam the whole school of all wireless telecommunications. There is already a place like that, and its leader goes by "Kim Jeong Un"

Or a box-shaped roomba.

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Lol, maybe for extreme cases. As with almost any technology, solutions are scalable. Something does not have to be strong enough to impede signals throughout the entire building. I work in an office where we design and manufacture industrial smart meters, and we have an area that is blocked to incoming and outgoing signals for implementing various aspects of a high proprietorial nature. But yeah, staying in class helped me get to where I am. ;)

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Posted from your computer/laptop/phone digitally on a high speed internet connection.

If it really was the 80's you would never have heard about this (it probably would have still happened over something else though), and you wouldn't be posting it either.

You cant deny it was simpler less hectic times. Cell phones are more like crack than a tool. And with the way they are targeting children under 10(meaning scaring parents into thinking their child needs to carry a cell phone) sickens me .

Most of technology is actually a weak crutch. Softening our minds and resolve because things are just a finger tip away. Better design and some forethought on sustainability of the long term implications need to be at the forefront of the discussion in regards to technology and how we move forward with it.

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Even if they are, it doesn't mean they can't be used as a solution. Analogous to marijuana, it is currently illegal, but that doesn't mean it isn't used in certain situations.

An alternative could be a Faraday cage, essentially a grounded conductive shield surrounding each classroom of interest. Obviously that would be more expensive and a much greater undertaking to install. But many buildings have existing metal layers as firewalls too. They could be grounded block signals entering or exiting the room.

Some guy smoking weed in his living room is a lot more inconspicuous than a large public school building jamming cell phones. People would find out pretty quickly if they suddenly had no signal anywhere, parents would complain that they couldn't reach their kids in emergencies, etc.

Besides, even if they were legal, I guarantee it would stop no one from using their phones. You would still be able to tweet, use FB Messenger, etc. using WiFi. Even if you set the WiFi to private, some geek would acquire a pass code.

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You cant deny it was simpler less hectic times. Cell phones are more like crack than a tool. And with the way they are targeting children under 10(meaning scaring parents into thinking their child needs to carry a cell phone) sickens me .

Most of technology is actually a weak crutch. Softening our minds and resolve because things are just a finger tip away. Better design and some forethought on sustainability of the long term implications need to be at the forefront of the discussion in regards to technology and how we move forward with it.

It really all depends on his it's used. Some may be weakened by it, but for many, it simply allows them to move on to bigger and better things. When basic tasks are easy, you can focus your resolve and energy into things of importance. Technology grows at an exponential rate. Scientists and engineers use technology as a tool, and can make more impressive designs or make discoveries that would previously not have been possible.

Of course technology does not come without problems (the NSA tracking citizens is a prime example) but I'd still rather be alive now than at any time in the past.

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Some guy smoking weed in his living room is a lot more inconspicuous than a large public school building jamming cell phones. People would find out pretty quickly if they suddenly had no signal anywhere, parents would complain that they couldn't reach their kids in emergencies, etc.

Besides, even if they were legal, I guarantee it would stop no one from using their phones. You would still be able to tweet, use FB Messenger, etc. using WiFi. Even if you set the WiFi to private, some geek would acquire a pass code.

I was referring to medicinal marijuana... so something that is illicit, being legally used in certain situations.

And I believe you are largely missing the logic in the solution to inhibit phone signals. For starters, I doubt any of the phones being used at school are on a WiFi network, they would be use their providers data network. Sure, if someone has something that they can play video games on but cannot connect to the outside world, they may still play with it, in the same sense they could bring a PSP or some other handheld video game to school. But without any connection to the world wide web, they are just going to be talking to themselves if they are tweeting or using a messenger app. But I can't see how you can guarantee anything as you clearly have a tenuous grasp of how the mobile networking even works. In any case, there are technical solutions to inhibiting the use of any wireless communication in a given area, to firmly insist otherwise is rather ignorant.

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It really all depends on his it's used. Some may be weakened by it, but for many, it simply allows them to move on to bigger and better things. When basic tasks are easy, you can focus your resolve and energy into things of importance. Technology grows at an exponential rate. Scientists and engineers use technology as a tool, and can make more impressive designs or make discoveries that would previously not have been possible.

Of course technology does not come without problems (the NSA tracking citizens is a prime example) but I'd still rather be alive now than at any time in the past.

Totally agree with what you have said esten. Yes there are so many benefits but the overall approach is cheaper, smaller, faster. This is not the way to progress technology.

Research into more organic ways of thinking about current technologies is being completely overlooked. The synthetic approach can only get us so far. We need to integrate science and nature to create a more harmonious existence between us and the environment.

The impressive designs are few and far between and usually by groups pushing the boundaries of conventional technology by not following in everyone's footsteps. The true pioneers look for long term socioeconomic and environmental viability. I do not see many of the megacoprs choosing the less intrusive paths, rather a bowling ball style approach of throw as much money and energy at something and it should be good right ?

The carbon copies of every thing that is invented under the sun claim to be better stronger cheaper. When in reality they are completely the opposite and more often than not leave us the consumer holding the bag of cheap, unreliable gimmicks.

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It's very sad what technology has done to our society, turning the young generation into non-social neon heads.

What on earth is are society doing, letting cell phones into schools anyway? Our whole nation needs to wake up!

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Totally agree with what you have said esten. Yes there are so many benefits but the overall approach is cheaper, smaller, faster. This is not the way to progress technology.

Research into more organic ways of thinking about current technologies is being completely overlooked. The synthetic approach can only get us so far. We need to integrate science and nature to create a more harmonious existence between us and the environment.

The impressive designs are few and far between and usually by groups pushing the boundaries of conventional technology by not following in everyone's footsteps. The true pioneers look for long term socioeconomic and environmental viability. I do not see many of the megacoprs choosing the less intrusive paths, rather a bowling ball style approach of throw as much money and energy at something and it should be good right ?

The carbon copies of every thing that is invented under the sun claim to be better stronger cheaper. When in reality they are completely the opposite and more often than not leave us the consumer holding the bag of cheap, unreliable gimmicks.

I'd be curious to see an example of an example of a piece of technology that would fit into what you envision. Unfortunately cheaper/faster/smaller is what the people want. Corporations are only responding to the consumer with these devices. The average mainstream middle class person wants convenience and practicality. Cutting edge technology appeals to a smaller set of (usually wealthy) people before it moves on to the mainstream.

I'll use the example of air travel. Everyone knows that it was a luxurious experience in the past, with airlines offering superior service and buying new, advanced aircraft. However, it was expensive, catering only to a minority of rich people. As time went on, air travel became cheaper and more accessible to the masses, however the experience diminished. People complain about air travel today, but the reality is that when most people are on expedia.ca looking for flights, most of the time they will pick the cheapest ticket. That's why air travel is not nearly as fun as it used to be. It is cheaper, safer, and more efficient however. And that does have some value. Like I said before, people can now visit places that would never have been possible in the past, experiencing new things. They can devote time and energy that would have been expended elsewhere (taking a ship or car or not going anywhere at all) into exciting experiences.

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I'd be curious to see an example of an example of a piece of technology that would fit into what you envision. Unfortunately cheaper/faster/smaller is what the people want. Corporations are only responding to the consumer with these devices. The average mainstream middle class person wants convenience and practicality. Cutting edge technology appeals to a smaller set of (usually wealthy) people before it moves on to the mainstream.

I'll use the example of air travel. Everyone knows that it was a luxurious experience in the past, with airlines offering superior service and buying new, advanced aircraft. However, it was expensive, catering only to a minority of rich people. As time went on, air travel became cheaper and more accessible to the masses, however the experience diminished. People complain about air travel today, but the reality is that when most people are on expedia.ca looking for flights, most of the time they will pick the cheapest ticket. That's why air travel is not nearly as fun as it used to be. It is cheaper, safer, and more efficient however. And that does have some value. Like I said before, people can now visit places that would never have been possible in the past, experiencing new things. They can devote time and energy that would have been expended elsewhere (taking a ship or car or not going anywhere at all) into exciting experiences.

This is just it, the better tech is already here and available but the mega corps stifle these better products because they will loose money hand over fist. Your plane analogy is great so I will counter with the electric car or even battery technology itself . LIPO batteries are phenomenal and used for a multitude of things but yet only the RC (radio controlled industry) is the only one really taking hold of it. This tech is years old already and the advancements are not really being filtered out into the mainstream as it should be.

They have become cheap to make are durable and last ages longer than any conventional NIMH or NICAD. They could be in every home with a few solar panels and a large capacitor keeping their charges easily handling all the lights and smaller appliances running without the need for any fossil fuels.

I for one am the furthest thing from rich and i dont waste my money on cheap goods that will need replacing much sooner than quality items. The whole supply and demand theory is a joke. The corporations dictate the supply from top to bottom and the consumer usually comes out on the bottom.

The demographics are royally skewed to meet the ideals of the manufacturer.

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I was referring to medicinal marijuana... so something that is illicit, being legally used in certain situations.

And I believe you are largely missing the logic in the solution to inhibit phone signals. For starters, I doubt any of the phones being used at school are on a WiFi network, they would be use their providers data network. Sure, if someone has something that they can play video games on but cannot connect to the outside world, they may still play with it, in the same sense they could bring a PSP or some other handheld video game to school. But without any connection to the world wide web, they are just going to be talking to themselves if they are tweeting or using a messenger app. But I can't see how you can guarantee anything as you clearly have a tenuous grasp of how the mobile networking even works. In any case, there are technical solutions to inhibiting the use of any wireless communication in a given area, to firmly insist otherwise is rather ignorant.

I am well aware that it is technically feasible to inhibit cell phone use. None of these solutions are legal that I can think of. The FCC and Industry Canada have made that clear. No exception for public schools has been created.

http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/jamming-cell-phones-and-gps-equipment-against-law

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf10048.html

Principals have already tried to use cell phone jammers at schools and were forced to take them down when students quickly figured out what was happening. Here's one example:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cellphone-jamming-principal-forced-to-retreat-at-b-c-high-school-1.822933

Moving on to the subject of wifi. When I was in high school, our school had a private network, but it never took long for someone to find out one of the teachers/administrators' passwords and spread it around. Young people can be very resourceful and can usually find ways to skirt the rules, especially with technology.

And yes, I have a smartphone, it can connect to wifi separately from my data network. If you go into your local Rogers or Telus store, every single smartphone there has the same capability. I can tweet, instagram, facebook, message my friends, even talk to people on the phone with no data connection whatsoever. Don't try and make me look ignorant when you're unaware of such a basic feature that anyone who has used a smartphone for more than 5 minutes would be aware of.

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I feel sorry for all those under 24 year olds that have been coddled and haven't the slightest clue of how tough life can be. How they can't handle failure, they deny responsibility for doing anything wrong, (Although that's becoming more prevalent across the human spectrum now), and are ill equipped to handle life. The issue to me it seems is that our economy does not value our children properly.

Both parents work to try and keep a roof over their head(s), sometimes two jobs. Instead of getting more and more flexible, corporations are cutting back flex schedules, pay, and benefits making it harder for parents to raise their kids with a proper foundation of manners, tact, common sense, and the ability to cope with hardship and change.

You are in a school to learn. But the phone on vibe and only answer in an emergency. It's not rocket science.

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yes the kids these days are obsessed with their smart phones.

on the flip side, this video wouldnt exist for us to watch had the student filming not pulled out his cell phone.

to this day i still dont own or use a smart phone....i been trying to hold out as long as i can until it becomes actually totally necessary to have one. there are pros and cons to owning one but so far the pros havent out weighed the cons for me yet so i remain on the sidelines until the opposite for me is true.

Me too.

And the more I see how people get sucked into the smart phone vortex, the more I resist the temptation to.

As for the story/incident....kid just got lesson one in how not to behave in society. If there are rules and something of yours is confiscated in violation of them, you don't react with physical force. Try it in any other situation and it won't fly either. So perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that it's happened at this (school) level vs say someplace else where a civil suit could also follow.

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