Scorvat Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 This is how the standings would look, if you never got a point for a loss in regulation, OT, or a SO. Also you get 2pts for a regulation/OT win, and 1pt for a SO win. EASTERN CONFERENCE ATLANTIC TBL- 90PTS 6GR MTL- 88PTS 6GR DET- 77PTS 7GR BOS- 73PTS 6GR OTT- 69PTS 7GR FLA- 62PTS 6GR TOR- 52PTS 6GR BUF- 32PTS 7 GR METROPOLITAN NYR- 90PTS 7GR NYI- 83PTS 5GR PIT- 79PTS 7GR WSH- 78PTS 6GR CBJ- 65PTS 7GR NJ- 58PTS 6GR PHI- 57PTS 6GR CAR- 52PTS 7GR WESTERN CONFERENCE CENTRAL NSH- 88PTS 5GR MIN- 84PTS 6GR STL- 83PTS 7GR CHI- 79PTS 8GR WPG- 71PTS 7GR DAL- 70PTS 6GR COL- 61PTS 7GR PACIFIC ANA- 89PTS 4GR VAN- 82PTS 7GR CAL- 78PTS 6GR LAK- 72PTS 7GR SJS- 70PTS 7GR ARZ- 41PTS 6GR EDM- 39PTS 7GR CURRENT PLAYOFF BRACKET (no loser point) TBL vs WSH MTL vs DET NYR vs BOS NYI vs PIT NSH vs CHI MIN vs STL ANA vs LAK VAN vs CAL CURRENT PLAYOFF BRACKET (with current NHL point system) MTL vs BOS TBL vs DET NYR vs WSH PIT vs NYI NSH vs MIN STL vs CHI ANA vs WPG VAN vs CAL SOURCE:http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_standings.htm?type=WC&season=20142015 I am hoping a lot of you like this idea. It gets to show us how different the standings look over different point systems. I will update this regularly, Even when next season starts. Hope you all enjoy! Note: I am using NHL.COM for the standings. If there is a delay between the end of game and when NHL.COM updates their webite, then it will be corrected on next update. Sorry for any inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 If this were the real point system we would be most likely facing calgary in the playoffs. Also we would have a decent shot at winning our division. In which we would most likey face the Kings. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 So basically the same. Except we get calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 So basically the same. Except we get calgary It is similar, it will be. The biggest difference you will see is the playoff matchups. It also would fix a team with 4 more wins place behind a team with 4 less wins just because they lost 9+ in OT/SO. It would really suck to miss the playoffs over something like this. The point is a loss in OT/SO in the playoffs mean nothing. So why the season? But yes we would get Calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Would be much better if the league got rid of OTL points. A team shouldn't be rewarded for just hanging on, especially in the case where it decides who makes the playoffs and who doesn't. I also like the idea of having shootouts worth only 1 point. But as long as 3 on 3 OT is brought in then there will be fewer shootouts anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I cant seem to recall this many 'loser point' threads in the seasons where the Canucks had quite a few. The loser points are available to every team, some teams are just much better at "managing their losses" than the Canucks this year. I have no issue with the point system at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I remember doing this tracking a decade ago or so. Damned are we when loser points exist! If loser point must exist, then give three points for a regulation win!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 If the point system were different, teams would have used different strategies resulting in different game outcomes so it isn't as simple as recalculating the points using different rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The league doesn't really want this, they want the standings close, to keep interest in bubble teams. Without lose points all the eastern playoffs spots are taken (I guess Ottawa still would have an outside chance), with only one spot still up for grabs in the west. But yes, for this particular season it would benefit the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I cant seem to recall this many 'loser point' threads in the seasons where the Canucks had quite a few. The loser points are available to every team, some teams are just much better at "managing their losses" than the Canucks this year. I have no issue with the point system at all. Ive always hated them. If i had been on this forum years ago i would say the same thing. Even make it 3pts for a regulation win (i just cant see NHL doing it). Id prefer 3pts regulation, 2pts OT, and 1pt SO. Just figured i would go with the 2pt system, with SO only worth 1pt. A SO win should NOT be worth as much as a regulation win. You can make the argument OT should be worth the same, only because its still a goal bybattling eeachother. SO's is a breakaway challenge, totally different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I remember doing this tracking a decade ago or so. Damned are we when loser points exist! If loser point must exist, then give three points for a regulation win!!Thats exactly how i would like it. I just didnt want to change so much so i went with 2pt Regulation win- 3pts /OTW-2pts/SOW-1pt/ Loss-0pts That is how it should be. Regulation play: Teams will play for 3 points. Overtime play: Teams were unable to win in regulation. Will now play for 2 points Shootout: Teams still unable to win the game. Will play for 1 point. If the NHL wants it to be closer(loser point)for entertainment reasons, make it. Regulation loss- 0pts/OTL- 1pt/SOL- 0pt Regulation play: Teams are playing for 3 points. Winner takes all 3 Overtime: Teams are tied after regulation. teams both earned a point and will play for the extra point. Shootout: Teams were unable to earn 3pts, they will play a shootout for only 1 point (3 points are no longer in play) The only problem with this way is, if a team only needs 1 point to clinch a playoff spot, they would purposely let in a goal in OT instead of trying to win OT/SO. Reason for that is, if it goes to a SO, they lose the gaurentee point they would've had, had they lost in OT. So why try to win in OT? Why risk not scoring and lose that gaurentee point by going to a SO? You would have to take out the SO and bring back the ties. They would be 1pt each if this were to happen. Id prefer any one of the (reg-otw-sow) 3pts-2pts-1pt or the 2pts-2pt-1pt with all losses being 0 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They should award 2 points for a win, 2 points for a loss and then give everybody a participation ribbon, a blanky and some hot cocoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Just go back to ties. If it ends up as a tie at the end of the game, no team gets a point. May encourage tanking but also some heated playoff battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Loser points aren't the problem, shootouts are the problem. Epiphany! - If after 5mins of 4 on 4, and 4mins of 3 on 3 the game is still tied: Goalies are replaced by a skater. Game won't lost long after that, and, the loser point is earned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ive always hated them. If i had been on this forum years ago i would say the same thing. Even make it 3pts for a regulation win (i just cant see NHL doing it). Id prefer 3pts regulation, 2pts OT, and 1pt SO. Just figured i would go with the 2pt system, with SO only worth 1pt. A SO win should NOT be worth as much as a regulation win. You can make the argument OT should be worth the same, only because its still a goal bybattling eeachother. SO's is a breakaway challenge, totally different But at the end of the season it isn't, that's why there is an ROW column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Bettman sure loves his artificial parity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Canucks are 2nd in the League in 1 goal wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 If they want to change the point system then I wouldn't mind seeing something like 3pts for a W (regulation/OT or shootout doesn't matter) and 1 point for OT/Shootout losses. For a tiebreaker they can look at regulation wins first then OT/shootout wins. Something similar to the way the olympics are set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I dont mind the extra Otl point, that's been there forever. I do however think the games should be three point games regardless of when it finished. The other thing I dont like is how a shootout is to determine a winner so early during the regular season. I like how the iihf does it after a fourth period of hockey but only for big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steen Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd rather see a three point system where every game is worth three points. 3 points for a win in regulation, and two points for a win past regulation, with the loser getting 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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