Johnny Shotgun Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Face it since Bettman has become commissioner no Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup. The last Canadian winners were the '93 Canadiens. After the first round scramble and the real contenders surface the officiating becomes totally slanted towards the American clubs vs their Canadian counterparts. The NHL with NBC blessing initially tried to promote hockey in the southern regions Carolina, Tampa Bay which didn't produce the interest in the deep south they hoped for. Calgary actually beat Tampa in game 6 but the winning goal was waived off. So after that failed promotion NBC went back to ordering the league to promote the teams in the largest television markets. For this year will it be New York's turn to hoist the cup or send it back to California in Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 My goodness. Leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Worst thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 So NBC wanting an American team to win is the reason that the Canucks lost to another Canadian team? Makes sense... I just hope they send one to Denver in the next few years since they're apparently so powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 There are7 canadian teams, 2 are the leafs and oilers, and 23 american teams. You do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 There's no conspiracy, just incompetent officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If it really was rigged, don't you think a Canadian team would win it at least once in a while, just so that nobody would suspect it was rigged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Face it since Bettman has become commissioner no Canadian team has won a Stanley Cup. The last Canadian winners were the '93 Canadiens. After the first round scramble and the real contenders surface the officiating becomes totally slanted towards the American clubs vs their Canadian counterparts. The NHL with NBC blessing initially tried to promote hockey in the southern regions Carolina, Tampa Bay which didn't produce the interest in the deep south they hoped for. Calgary actually beat Tampa in game 6 but the winning goal was waived off. So after that failed promotion NBC went back to ordering the league to promote the teams in the largest television markets. For this year will it be New York's turn to hoist the cup or send it back to California in Anaheim. that sounds like too much math for Bettman to wrap his head around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigUncle16 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I would normally laugh at conspiracy theories, but NHL reffing is so delightfully terrible that I sometimes wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 To those who have replied i know it sounds crazy and bitter but tonights result has nothing to with it. Bettman has always chased the Holy Grail of a major US tv contract along the lines of what the 3 other major sports leagues receive. It's not going to happen as the vast majority of the the US sport fans still treat hockey as an after thought. Do you think it behooves NBC to showcase a team from Canada winning the Cup? They and the NHL want American teams forefront to tap into that potential market. Las Vegas as a franchaise is a joke.... except from a marketing point of view. Lets them rub shoulders with the billions of dollars bet in Vegas on sports and get a higher profile in that market. Prediction: Rangers win the Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 To those who have replied i know it sounds crazy and bitter but tonights result has nothing to with it. Bettman has always chased the Holy Grail of a major US tv contract along the lines of what the 3 other major sports leagues receive. It's not going to happen as the vast majority of the the US sport fans still treat hockey as an after thought. Do you think it behooves NBC to showcase a team from Canada winning the Cup? They and the NHL want American teams forefront to tap into that potential market. Las Vegas as a franchaise is a joke.... except from a marketing point of view. Lets them rub shoulders with the billions of dollars bet in Vegas on sports and get a higher profile in that market. Prediction: Rangers win the Cup s So you go on a cospiracy theory rant then pick the presidents' trophy winner to win the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 There are7 canadian teams, 2 are the leafs and oilers, and 23 american teams. You do the math. Heres a little math for you to chew on, how do you explain Canadian teams winning 8 out of 10 in the 10 years immediately preceding Bettmans coronation or 15 out of 25 in the expansion era prior to Bettman but not one since Little Napoleon and his reckless prsuit of the US corproate dollar? Number of Canadian vs US teams has little to do with it. The NHL looks more like the WWE every year. Funny thing is, according to Lord Stanleys conditions, American based teams aren't even eligible to play for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I actually thought this was real until McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 To those who have replied i know it sounds crazy and bitter but tonights result has nothing to with it. Bettman has always chased the Holy Grail of a major US tv contract along the lines of what the 3 other major sports leagues receive. It's not going to happen as the vast majority of the the US sport fans still treat hockey as an after thought. Do you think it behooves NBC to showcase a team from Canada winning the Cup? They and the NHL want American teams forefront to tap into that potential market. Las Vegas as a franchaise is a joke.... except from a marketing point of view. Lets them rub shoulders with the billions of dollars bet in Vegas on sports and get a higher profile in that market. Prediction: Rangers win the Cup No? Nothing to do with it it just happens to come right after the loss? Prediction: You don't make this thread if the Canucks win therefore it has everything to do with it and you are just crazy and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Heres a little math for you to chew on, how do you explain Canadian teams winning 8 out of 10 in the 10 years immediately preceding Bettmans coronation or 15 out of 25 in the expansion era prior to Bettman but not one since Little Napoleon and his reckless prsuit of the US corproate dollar? Number of Canadian vs US teams has little to do with it. The NHL looks more like the WWE every year. Funny thing is, according to Lord Stanleys conditions, American based teams aren't even eligible to play for it. Here's more math for you. Since the Canadiens won the cup in 93 how many Canadian teams have had a real shot at the cup? 3? maybe 4? Number of Canadian teams is part of the equation. Money and taxes another really big part as well which opens up quality of players/teams in Canada. Also just prior to Bettman I believe there was this team that was pretty good. 5 of those 8 were the Oilers. So the question really is why haven't there been any great Canadian Dynasties in so long? Last real Dynasty I can think of was Detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Heres a little math for you to chew on, how do you explain Canadian teams winning 8 out of 10 in the 10 years immediately preceding Bettmans coronation or 15 out of 25 in the expansion era prior to Bettman but not one since Little Napoleon and his reckless prsuit of the US corproate dollar? Number of Canadian vs US teams has little to do with it. The NHL looks more like the WWE every year. Funny thing is, according to Lord Stanleys conditions, American based teams aren't even eligible to play for it. So when there was only 6 teams in the league only TO and Montreal were allowed to play every year for the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Mongrel; Fair enough points. When you discuss the quality of orgs in Canada the standard approach has been 'just one more player' to put that roster together that can contend. The Canucks did for years. Traded their picks and prospects in the effort. I concluded a long time ago that Canadian fans have little patience for a franchise to methodically rebuild a roster. Edmonton is the only team trying to do that over the past 10 years. The Laffers are a classic 'rebuild on the go' but that has failed for over 45 years. Another slant on NHL hockey in Canada is the effect Canadian crowds have on their Canadian rosters. I do believe that NHL players, possibily, 'try harder' for sustained periods than their USA counterparts. I say this because of media coverage in their markets and the daily recognition they receive. The San Jose Sharks can head to the beach after a tough loss and kick back without fear of negative press or fans. That is not the case in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Heres a little math for you to chew on, how do you explain Canadian teams winning 8 out of 10 in the 10 years immediately preceding Bettmans coronation or 15 out of 25 in the expansion era prior to Bettman but not one since Little Napoleon and his reckless prsuit of the US corproate dollar? Number of Canadian vs US teams has little to do with it. The NHL looks more like the WWE every year. Funny thing is, according to Lord Stanleys conditions, American based teams aren't even eligible to play for it. Well before Bettman, there were 26 NHL teams. And 8 of them were canadian. Prior to the 90's, Edmonton was winning cups with Gretzky. You take in other factors and you see it's not really bettman. Ottowa probably would have been better if Daigle hadn't busted. What if Florida and Anaheim weren't given #1 and #2 picks in the expansion draft. Take off your tinfoil hat bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Vancouver is the only Canadian to have anything to show for in the past decade. It's not Bettman, canadian teams just suck. Face it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 While there's something to what you're saying (not in a glaring/conspiracy way in my view..more in a bit of a slant and horrible officiating league wide at times), it's not just isolated to this team. It's worse at times. The timing of calls in relation to non calls that have been made is suspect. When you ignore charging and boarding but hone in on the little details that are less damaging, it hints that the refs sometimes see what they want to. But we had a 3 goal lead and let it go. I know the momentum shifted with some pretty untimely nonsense calls, but what we did after that counts. Happens. We weren't really expected to do a whole lot this year and this is likely just reflective of that. A work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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