Guest Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Now that it's coming out that the Twins are injured...I wonder if that's why WD sheltered their ice time. If so, that makes a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He's in love with Weber it will soon blossom into something almost as special as AV and Rome's love affair. At lease Weber can score Willie's first year in the NHL as head coach, got into the Playoffs. I am fine with him moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Perhaps you'd rather overwork the Sedins like Torts did and rather miss the playoffs altogether? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Answer this: Do you think you would have done a better job than Willie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John316 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Honestly I was very frustrated with the coaching. Sedins played more in the meaningless final game against the oilers than the important playoffs .. makes zero sense! !!!! Should have played the trap after up 3-0 or keep the pedal to the metal. 4 lines during regular season is fine but you know the flames or any other team when down are going to load up and go for it. ... this is not the time to give everyone equal ice time. After tv timeouts. .icing. .etc ..play the Sedins! !!!!! Need to be strategic. Anyone can coach 4 line hockey. ..argh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 AV WAS BETTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanbieksa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 One of the reasons he was praised during the regular season was that he trusted everybody on the team and because of that we were able to roll four lines. It gave every line a boost, because they looked at themselves as valuable members of the team. Sure I would've loved to see the Sedins play more, they were great. I guess he hoped the players would respond because they were given second (and third...) chances. Sadly it didn't work and we came up short. Hopefyully he'll take a good look at this season and learn from it. On the otherhand, we weren't going far with that defence anyways. Bieksa, Sbisa, Weber and even Hamhuis were quite amazingly bad. They aren't the only players to blame, but my god they were bad. On an other note, why don't the canucks play physical whatsoever when away from home? Do they think hitting is just for the thrill of the fans? Because with such lack of physicallity on players like Johnny G, Monahan, Hudler and 18 year old Sam Bennet they will find space and they will hurt you. Just as they did in game six. When we had like 5 hits throughout the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectic Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think next season will be an opportunity for him to have a better feel for the team, considering this was his first year not only coaching this team but coaching in the NHL as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Now that it's coming out that the Twins are injured...I wonder if that's why WD sheltered their ice time. If so, that makes a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Maybe I am being too hard on him but to me WD looked like the most rookie coach I have ever seen. Thoroughly out coached but it was easy as he made basic mistakes that anyone studying coaching could avoid. 1. Playing top players - Sedins - it's obvious Linden and Sedins asked for more time after game 3, how did WD respond, he played them the same amount until we were down by 2 in the last 5 min and then he played them 3 min straight at the end of the game- real smart! That's right, forget match ups, forget putting them out against the 4th line and Derek eglland and Witherspoon or whatever (15s total against him in the first 4 games, although he didn't play much) Puts them out at the end down by 2 when Calgary packs their end and it's harder to make plays, the other 3 players on the ice are nervous and Calgary is confident Should have put them out more and earlier, after timeouts, icings, commercial breaks 2. Combos Vrabata - why not double shift him once burrows is injured, double shift him a few times and get his minutes over 20, 21, he was their MVP in the regular season Double shift him after timeouts and commercial breaks EARLY in the game not the last 5 min Horvat- tied for team lead in points, yet he stays buried on the 4th line No, do not put him on the second line between Bonino (who played LW in ANA and vrabat who WD insisted should be on the 2nd L) 3. Minutes Horvat- too few Bieksa, Sbisa- too little Tanev, Edler- too few Sedins, vrabata, too few total and together. 4.players Health - perhaps the most egregious error -played Miller when he said he wasnt close to healthy when he had Eddie who was arguably the better goalie this year when miller WAS 100% I am just confused as to why he made such basic errors? Perhaps someone who know more about hockey can tell me. Go and get a hobby and maybe that will stop you dreaming up stuff like this. It's a disgrace. You admit you have a limited knowledge of hockey probably the same as 99% of us on here but you start a thread like that. I get it, you're disappointed but don't lose your class. By the way the other rookie coach Mike Johnston (coach of the Pens, with Malkin, Crosby, Downie, Fluery, Hornqvist, Comeau, Kunitz, Spalling, Sutter, Winnick and Lapierre ) went out in 5. Is he suspect as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 but was dumb enough to not play his star players when it matters most in the playoffs and not put vrbata and the sedins. He puts Hansen insted even though he literally said he wasn't comfortable playing with the twins. We literally signed the guy to play with them. Great season by him, huge fail in postseason. What was he resting the twins for? Round 2? what a joke his 4 line thing wasn't gonna work in playoffs but he was to stubborn to change. Time on ice was not a factor so why keep flogging it? The Sedins could have played 25 mins a game and we were still giving away goals that we shouldn't (although nowhere near as some people would have us believe) and getting little puck luck. It's not so much the time on ice but what you do with it. The Sedins tend to overdo the cycling at times and that has not always paid off. The Flames were great at keeping their shape and not being drawn out of position by the recycling game. Players who had played well during the season just didn't seem to get the breaks. Guys like Bonino, Bo, Kenins, Richie, Burr and Vbrata. Not to mention guys like Sbisa, Weber, Edler, Tanev and Hamhuis must have been exhausted carrying the defence at various times during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 We will see next year how stubborn he is when management want more youth into the lineup. He really never wanted Horvat at the beginning of the year, so lets see if he can adjust if guys like Virtanen, Shink, Gaunce have great camps. Cassels is another interesting prospect who looks like he could step into the NHL maybe quicker than the rest of them. Is he going to to stay conservative? or roll the dice with some more youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Linden and Sedins asked for more time after game 3, Is this even true? Honestly, the only place I have heard this is on this board. I think some poster mentioned that they had heard this rumour and now it's being thrown around as a fact. I'm not trying to call anyone out - just genuinely curious as to where this came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Is this even true? Honestly, the only place I have heard this is on this board. I think some poster mentioned that they had heard this rumour and now it's being thrown around as a fact. I'm not trying to call anyone out - just genuinely curious as to where this came from. I wouldnt believe the Sedins asked for more ice time for a second. Daniel even stated on 1040 that they didn't demand more ice and I believe the Sedins when it comes to stuff like that. Pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Now that it's coming out that the Twins are injured...I wonder if that's why WD sheltered their ice time. If so, that makes a lot of sense They are? If so that really sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 We will see next year how stubborn he is when management want more youth into the lineup. He really never wanted Horvat at the beginning of the year, so lets see if he can adjust if guys like Virtanen, Shink, Gaunce have great camps. Cassels is another interesting prospect who looks like he could step into the NHL maybe quicker than the rest of them. Is he going to to stay conservative? or roll the dice with some more youth. Considering Horvat has been "really good" instead of just "good" or "real good", if he gets someone that blows him away (potentially Virtanen and McCann, who will be in the same position Horvat was this year), he'll keep him up in the bigs. Cassels will be good real soon, but he'll be in Utica for a year or two because he won't have to go back to junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What are we the Oilers? How many coaches do we need to go through before people hold the players accountable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheXFactor Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What are we the Oilers? How many coaches do we need to go through before people hold the players accountable? Pretty sure people are holding everyone accountable. More then half the roster has been called out by this forum. But yes, some of WD's decisions during the playoffs left me pretty puzzled and frustrated. He was clearly out-coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 WD was definitely outcoached in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Is this even true? Honestly, the only place I have heard this is on this board. I think some poster mentioned that they had heard this rumour and now it's being thrown around as a fact. I'm not trying to call anyone out - just genuinely curious as to where this came from. The province and 1040 many many many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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