billabong Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 We hear about baerschi, horvat, virtanen, shinkaruk, McCann, gaunce, cassels etc as reviving this team but vey kinda gets forgotten in the thick of it all. We traded the 23 year old rookie for a 2nd round pick to centre the 3rd line behind bonino but because of horvats incredible play he ended up finishing the year in the press box. He is a skilled fast player so he needs to be in scoring role but is he gonna get that on this team? Is he strong enough to be a nhl centre and win at least 50% of his draws? Does he belong on the wing? But behind our plethora of wingers under contract is there room for him on the right side? If he doesn't have home here, is he still worth a 2nd pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Vey is actually not particularly fast. He hustles but is not speedy. And unfortunately he will have a prime spot next season with his bff coaching. Reality is he does not fit anywhere on this team other than 13th forward. We would never get a second rounder for him now I don't think. He brings some good attributes but also adds to the wimpy image of this team. I think my 9 year old novice kid might actually look older than him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I think he is definitely worth the 2nd round pick. Although there was a lot of hate on him, he quietly had a solid rookie year. People seem to think picks are worth more than they are, there are tons of second rounders that never make the NHL, yet here we have a young rookie who had a very good rookie season. I don't see why he won't have a future on the team. I say this for two reasons: 1) He is young and has shown he can produce, he just needs experience and consistency, 2) Benning knew he wanted him, I don't see him being kicked off the team. This team is getting younger and listing people like Gaunce, Cassels, Shinkaruk when none of those 3 have played at the NHL level in a meaningful way is a lot like saying Vey isn't worth a 2nd rounder. People overrate potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Depends if they plan to keep around some stale-dated players. He had a decent rookie season. As long as he can nail down a starting spot and build on last season, then I think he has a future here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hopefully he works hard in the summer and bulks up a bit. Then he'll work his way out of his 13th forward spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If he was better in the faceoff dot I'd be happy to have him slot in 3rd line. But he's pretty bad. He'll need to work hard this offseason to solidify a spot in the lineup. I'm sure he'll get plenty of looks. But Willie won't sacrifice winning to keep him in the lineup for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 We hear about baerschi, horvat, virtanen, shinkaruk, McCann, gaunce, cassels etc as reviving this team but vey kinda gets forgotten in the thick of it all. We traded the 23 year old rookie for a 2nd round pick to centre the 3rd line behind bonino but because of horvats incredible play he ended up finishing the year in the press box. He is a skilled fast player so he needs to be in scoring role but is he gonna get that on this team? Is he strong enough to be a nhl centre and win at least 50% of his draws? Does he belong on the wing? But behind our plethora of wingers under contract is there room for him on the right side? If he doesn't have home here, is he still worth a 2nd pick? He is not fast, and as I said in the Jensen thread he was handed the chance Jensen earned last year on a silver platter and did absolutely nothing with it. He isn't a good center and I'd take Jensen's speed and forecheck on the wing every day of the week. Considering people are writing off Jensen already I'm not sure what that says about Vey. I really don't see why we traded for him, or how he's going to fit in going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Everyone rejects the fact that he's only a rookie and he's had similar numbers to Horvat this season. He will get better in the offseason, and hopefully ends up being a big piece of our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 He has a future here. Just a matter of figuring out the end pieces, but he is part of that younger group that they are bringing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If he was better in the faceoff dot I'd be happy to have him slot in 3rd line. But he's pretty bad. He'll need to work hard this offseason to solidify a spot in the lineup. I'm sure he'll get plenty of looks. But Willie won't sacrifice winning to keep him in the lineup for long. He's also brutal defensively, not the best qualities for an aspiring center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 And unfortunately he will have a prime spot next season with his bff coaching. He was benched in favour of McMillan, Baertschi, and Kenins in the final playoff games. Get over it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyLow_ Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Everyone rejects the fact that he's only a rookie and he's had similar numbers to Horvat this season. He will get better in the offseason, and hopefully ends up being a big piece of our team. How many of those points were results of him being planted in the slot on the powerplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahyoung Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Everyone rejects the fact that he's only a rookie and he's had similar numbers to Horvat this season. He will get better in the offseason, and hopefully ends up being a big piece of our team. That's a good point. 10 G and 14 A isn't bad for a 23 year old. Not too shabby... Actually arguably better stats than Kassian. Really because his production trailed off in the latter half of the season people are down on him. But actually looking at the whole season not too bad at all. Give him a chance for another year, see if he can break out of his mid season slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 He was benched in favour of McMillan, Baertschi, and Kenins in the final playoff games. Get over it already. He was benched in favour of Richardson. Desjardins even said he thought he was better at the end of the season than the start (wtf moment there) and that he ONLY lost his spot because of Richardson. Look for Richardson to be let go as a UFA to pave the spot for Vey. Even though he is absolutely terrible as a centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Gawd, i hope not. Seriously, nothing against him personally. but he brings nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 That's a good point. 10 G and 14 A isn't bad for a 23 year old. Not too shabby... Actually arguably better stats than Kassian. Really because his production trailed off in the latter half of the season people are down on him. But actually looking at the whole season not too bad at all. Give him a chance for another year, see if he can break out of his mid season slump. Look at the prime offensive and top 9 minutes given to Vey next to those given to Horvat. His numbers are actually pretty below average based on his opportunity while Horvat did it as a 4th line center with no pp time. Vey is mediocre like most of this team. He does not have the size, speed, or defensive awareness to excel as a center. The wing is getting to the point where much better options are getting close. He has a lot of work to do imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Putting up 24 points in 75 games as a rookie (true he played 18 games the prior season) ain't bad at all. He's young and still has a big learning curve ahead. If he can work on his face-off ability and bulk up a bit he'll be fine. It's way too early to give up on this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babych Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Look at the prime offensive and top 9 minutes given to Vey next to those given to Horvat. His numbers are actually pretty below average based on his opportunity while Horvat did it as a 4th line center with no pp time. Vey is mediocre like most of this team. He does not have the size, speed, or defensive awareness to excel as a center. The wing is getting to the point where much better options are getting close. He has a lot of work to do imo. So Vey is the new Hansen - someone call Slegr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 He was benched in favour of Richardson. Desjardins even said he thought he was better at the end of the season than the start (wtf moment there) and that he ONLY lost his spot because of Richardson. Look for Richardson to be let go as a UFA to pave the spot for Vey. Even though he is absolutely terrible as a centre. Vey's all-around game did improve from the start of the season to the end. The 4th line in game 6 was Higgins - Horvat - McMillan. Vey can play right wing. If WD was Vey's "bff", that would have been an easy opportunity to slot Vey in. None of your jokes about WD and Vey or Medicine Hat ever were funny, so just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The lines 1-3 are filled. Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Baertschi-Horvat-Kassian Burrows-Bonino-Hansen The fourth line has only Dorsett penciled in at the moment. He will come in and compete for one of the fourth line roles along with Kenins, Virtanen, Jensen, Gaunce, Cassels, Shinkaruk, and whoever else that emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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