JM_ Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Vancouver won't do that, ever... More like 4.5-5Mx1 His qualifying offer would be insane for the next season at 6.5M. What if he scores 40+ with 30+ assists? You're looking at 9Mx8Y and Horvat going "Wtf mate" why would his QO number be "insane"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: why would his QO number be "insane"? Because, if I recall correctly, and I'm known to be wrong, but it has to be a certain percentage higher than his last contract... Its why Ben Hutton wasn't qualified, his QO would have been over 4M and he would have done well in arbitration. Boes would also get arbitration rights, I do believe... Though once again, I could be wrong. Edited September 12, 2019 by 5Fivehole0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Vancouver won't do that, ever... More like 4.5-5Mx1 His qualifying offer would be insane for the next season at 6.5M. What if he scores 40+ with 30+ assists? You're looking at 9Mx8Y and Horvat going "Wtf mate" Horvat should have already been doing right around the time Kevin Hayes got 7x7 despite never cracking the 50 point mark in his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It sounds like Brock has turned down 6 years at 7 mil. Hopefully that is not true. He may be looking for a short term deal. They need to be 100% sure that there is NO trade clauses of any shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, appleboy said: It sounds like Brock has turned down 6 years at 7 mil. Hopefully that is not true. He may be looking for a short term deal. They need to be 100% sure that there is NO trade clauses of any shape or form. It’s coming from Sekeres, sooooo..... Lol! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, IRR said: eIt’s coming from Sekeres, sooooo..... Lol! Keep hoping buddy. They got around 7 mil. If he wants 8 plus then they are screwed. They went on a signing spree before knowing what they need to sign him for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Horvat should have already been doing right around the time Kevin Hayes got 7x7 despite never cracking the 50 point mark in his career. Horvat, Miller, Baertschi, Pearson, Roussel, and hopefully Virtanen make for potentially the leagues best bargain bin middle 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, appleboy said: Keep hoping buddy. They got around 7 mil. If he wants 8 plus then they are screwed. They went on a signing spree before knowing what they need to sign him for. For sure! Hopefully he’s committed / humble enough to take something reasonable / close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: Because, if I recall correctly, and I'm known to be wrong, but it has to be a certain percentage higher than his last contract... Its why Ben Hutton wasn't qualified, his QO would have been over 4M and he would have done well in arbitration. Boes would also get arbitration rights, I do believe... Though once again, I could be wrong. ah OK. I wonder what the number would be that would be acceptable on a 1 year term then? we need a capologist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, appleboy said: They went on a signing spree before knowing what they need to sign him for. not sure what the option is if you want to be competitive. You cant sit and wait around to build the rest the team when you're negotiating with an RFA with no arbitration or offer sheet rights. Edited September 12, 2019 by Jimmy McGill 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: not sure what the option is if you want to be competitive. You cant sit and wait around to build the rest the team when you're negotiating with an RFA with no arbitration or offer sheet rights. Lets see, Ferland or Brock? Do you want to answer that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: And this information comes from.....? Edited September 12, 2019 by Squamfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quint Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 17 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: I see it more like this. Dude this is amazing. I seriously want this on a T-Shirt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 8:02 PM, Kanukfanatic said: Letz compare pay cheques petunia. Hahaha lol this is a canucks fourm, why you bringing up income lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberries Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Stech's comments today really did make it sound like Duke's health is really weighing heavy on Brock's mind. (as it should). That, combined with this contract mess has to be a heavy weight for the kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, appleboy said: Keep hoping buddy. They got around 7 mil. If he wants 8 plus then they are screwed. They went on a signing spree before knowing what they need to sign him for. Luongo's recapture bs. If not for that nhl beauty, it would just be a matter of waiving Schaller and bingo...8.158m in cap space. Really caught the Nuck's management team by surprise. Not that I think BB should be getting 8m though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, appleboy said: Lets see, Ferland or Brock? Do you want to answer that? we can have both. And its a false argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Depends whose perspective you're seeing it from - and there's the problem right there. They BOTH have to go to bat to try and sign "the best" deal - one on behalf of the team, the other, for his client/the player. It's that cat and mouse game where you have to meet in the middle. Who gets to decide where that is? Someone has to give here. One side can look at comparables in terms of other players' contracts...the other has to consider cap hit and the signing of players down the road. So they both have valid reasons to take a stand but, unfortunately, it won't get done that way and something's got to give. I think they try to inch there but it's going to require some leaps at some point as the clock ticks down. The team has to face forward and hit go soon ... be sad if Brock's left behind in this because I think it will hurt him. He's missed time already that will impact his numbers and, possibly, his performance and game fitness. It's one thing to practice...it's another to play night in and out in the NHL. I agree that it’s a negotiation and that no side is to blame, though, like I said, I think it’s more probable that Boeser is aiming high than vice-versa. It’s not in Benning’s mantra to lowball players; at least not by what we’ve seen so far in his tenure as GM. Thus, my question is: at what point does this fall on Boeser? If he misses all of camp? If he misses the pre-season games? If he starts missing out on regular season games? I recall that many posters were ripping on Nylander for holding out. Would that not also apply to Brock or is it different for him? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Silky mitts said: Apparently brock turned down 6 years 7 mill AAV at the draft. Wow...that is pretty disgusting if true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, TNucks1 said: lol this is a canucks fourm, why you bringing up income lol. Apologies. The other poster purported to be some kind of expert in capitalism. And capitalists judge themselves by their pay cheques. Dumb thing for me to post anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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