MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lol most of you don't know squat about hockey prospects or scouting for that matter. Stay happy behind your keyboards peasants. Benning is laughing at all of you. This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I'll start. Failed to make his team better by trade or stockpiling top picks. Status quo is not what the team needs or what the fans want. Blew the SJ deal. Also still stuck with 3 goalies and likely now a disgruntled Bieksa. Also doesn't pick a local boy in Harkins D- Grades? Really? How can you grade until the test is over. You get a thumbs down for not thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lol most of you don't know squat about hockey prospects or scouting for that matter. Stay happy behind your keyboards peasants. Benning is laughing at all of you. Didn't like Messier being captain and shipping out Linden? You don't know squat about owning a team or being a GM Didn't like torts as a coach? You don't know sqaut about coaching or being a GM or owner Didn't like drafting Nedved over Jagr? You don't know squat about scouting Didn't like the Neely trade? You don't know squat about being a GM or making trades in this league. And on and on. Hope you've never complained about any moves in the past. Your "you are not a scout/GM/owner/player/puckboy/journalist/etc" argument that you and others with no real rebuttals is weak. If you like every move that Benning makes, that is fine. Nothing wrong with support but to me it's like those that pretended Phantom menace was good just because it was Star Wars. Just don't expect everyone to follow you and don't make impotant attempts at elitism if you don't have a real argument to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Didn't like Messier being captain and shipping out Linden? You don't know squat about owning a team or being a GM Didn't like torts as a coach? You don't know sqaut about coaching or being a GM or owner Didn't like drafting Nedved over Jagr? You don't know squat about scouting Didn't like the Neely trade? You don't know squat about being a GM or making trades in this league. And on and on. Hope you've never complained about any moves in the past. Your "you are not a scout/GM/owner/player/puckboy/journalist/etc" argument that you and others with no real rebuttals is weak. If you like every move that Benning makes, that is fine. Nothing wrong with support but to me it's like those that pretended Phantom menace was good just because it was Star Wars. Just don't expect everyone to follow you and don't make impotant attempts at elitism if you don't have a real argument to make Little bit dramatic there bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Little bit dramatic there bud. Agreed. Phantom menace was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 low blow bringing Star Wars into into it, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Benning is supposed to be good at identifying young talent in the draft. We will judge and see what happens in 4-5 years how many of these guys pan out, but as of now have to reserve judgement. As for trades and signings he has some improving to do. Let's remember Gillis was good at contacts because he included NTCs or NMC in most if not all of them to sign guys below market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 He did what he could today. I'd say any fault would lie in selling picks too cheaply earlier on but for today, I would give him a solid C. I think the idea he somehow got less than the absolute maximum he could get for Lack is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomorick Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 He did what he could today. I'd say any fault would lie in selling picks too cheaply earlier on but for today, I would give him a solid C. I think the idea he somehow got less than the absolute maximum he could get for Lack is ridiculous.Does a lobotomy hurt or do you just feel the same as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Not impressed where this team is going. Alienate any more and the rink will be half empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Honestly…. Not bad. They weren't big name prospects but if you look at the talent he got at those spots. Not bad. My overall grade for Benning is B+. Here's my grades Boeser at 23: A+ I love this pick. Best player available. Split between Boeser and Konecny, but Boeser also offers the size dimension as well as the durability diminution. Brisebois at 66: A- I love this pick. The kid is a do it all type of defenseman and honestly, the fact that he made captain at 17 is astounding. The kid still isn't 18… How often do you see a 17 year old become captain when they aren't some generational talent at 17. He has to show some great qualities. Third round, I'm down. Cole Cassels was also a third round pick who was just a decent all around prospect, but he showed great leadership qualities, and improved every day. Now look at him. Give this kid time, I have good feelings. Zhukenov at 114: B+ High end offensive potential, high end motor. The kid has skills and abilities. All he needs is to add size. Sounds like a great pick for the 4th round. If he can add size to his frame, he has the ability to crack the roster. Neill at 144: B+ Neill at the 5th round is a steal in my opinion. 6'3, 215 pound 2 way defencman who can put up 40 points in 60 games? Wow… That is impressive. He needs to improve on his overall skating which will allow him to use his physicality more, but this is exactly the kind of player that I think has a good chance that one day in the future, people look back in a couple of years and say, how did he fall that far. Also, walking out of this draft with both a left defensman and right defensman was huge. Neill has definite NHL potential. In my opinion, he's a steal this deep. Gaudette at 149: B Not a bad pick. Not much info on the kid but I get the reasoning. Zhukenov is a high risk prospect due to his lack of size. Gaudette is similar in that he has high offensive potential but is a project. He has smaller stature and needs to gain size, but hey, what he does is offer a second high risk, high reward prospect. Kind of a safety pick to offset the high risk. Jasek at 174: B Again, another pick who is kind of a project, but shows high offensive potential. Chances are one of Zhukenov, Gaudette or Jasek should pan out. He's also still 17 and very young. This year will be interesting to see if his offensive side starts to flourish. Olson at 210: B This late in the draft it is a crap shoot. Last year Benning decided to go with size on the backend with Mackenzie Stewart. This year he decided to do the same. 6'2, 175+ pounds or so, and putting up 24 points as a defensman. You can't ask for much better this late in the draft. Overall All in all I like this draft. Boeser should be a stud. Brisebois and Neill are quality two way smart defensive prospects with size. Zhukenov, Gaudette, and Jasek are all high risk high reward players. Chances are, 1 of them should pan out at least. And finally a big defenseman who put up surprising decent numbers really late. Overall I think good drat. I give Benning a B+. With no moves here is our Current prospect pool. ( I didn't include Bo Horvat, Ronny Kenins, Linden Vey.) Baertschi-McCann-Virtanen Shinkaruk-Gaunce-Boeser Jensen-Cassels-Grenier Blomstrand-Zhukenov-Gaudette/Jasek Hutton Clendening Pedan Corrado Brisebois Subban Tryamkin Niell I think that looks pretty good and pretty deep to me. The youth movement is on people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Does a lobotomy hurt or do you just feel the same as before? Depends. Sedation or no sedation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By sea and land Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 You should all be NHL scouts Haha no kidding. Nobody knows who Boeser is so its a terrible pick. It's a great pick. Go Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 B+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I really like LiveWire's assessment, and I agree with him more than I would like. Was I disappointed in him pissing off Juice? Yes. Did I want Hamilton? Yes. But these things are out of Bennings control, the only thing he can control is who to pick in the draft, and IMO he did a bang up job, drafting guys with great potential who just need a little development. Solid B+ for Jimbo. I also love the way Benning discusses the prospects. You can tell he studied them a lot and has a true passion for the game on the scouting side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I would give him a C+ - Didn't get the Bieksa deal done when he should of, though will say Doug Wilson may be more to blame if reports are true - Should of traded; Higgins, Hansen to make cap room for Mattias and other free agents (frason/Santorelli) - I do like the pick, Boeser, I've read he's a more skilled version of Mike Fisher. A few other teams scouts were raving about him, also remember this draft is similar to the Kesler one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I dunno, the defense wasn't addressed at all and while it could still be done in the future, wasting the opportunity to do it now makes no sense. It just appeared that Benning had no idea what he was doing over the weekend. Not just the draft, but overall. I don't think he'll make up for it during free agency, but even if he does make some trades and signings, what will that even accomplish? More pretend mode bs? Prediction? Pain. More pain. Apparently Canucks fans haven't suffered enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The picks I'm most intriged in are Lukas Jasek and Tate Olson. They might turn out to be very clever pickups down the road. If they do, then you have to forgive Benning for his early round pick giveaways and botched trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I dunno, the defense wasn't addressed at all and while it could still be done in the future, wasting the opportunity to do it now makes no sense. It just appeared that Benning had no idea what he was doing over the weekend. It makes no sense to the point that one can only conclude that he doesn't know what he's doing, what other conclusion is there? His job was to acquire a couple of 2nd round picks and go after those defencemen. Even if that was his plan, with the Bieksa and Lack trades, he obviously didn't understand that failure was not an option, and would be completely unacceptable. He had no business waiting around to try and get a better deal, he needed to make the deals as soon as he had something on the table that would work, and if not, find a different trade. That was his job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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