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Him being a captain for his junior team doesn't say too much tbh, at least not for me. Because again, he's playing on the worst team in the QMJHL, so i doubt there's a lot of guys who's qualified to be captain. Him being a captain (and a defenseman) might also be one of the reasons why our management are sold on this pick, which is something i really don't like. We know that they like their "attitude guys", we know that they love their "big guys that can skate". We also know that not a lot of QMJHL defenseman have made the NHL over the years. Not that i'm totally against drafting defensemen from the QMJHL, this year, i liked Zboril, J.Roy and Chabot, while Meloche could've been a solid 2nd round pick. Just don't think that Brisebrois is the type of guy you take with an early 3rd round pick, a low reward type of player.

To me, it feels like management got desperate to pick a defenseman just for the sake of picking a defenseman, because they've been talking for months about getting more depth on defense, and they didn't pick a defenseman until the 3rd round, which should be seen as a failure. The chance of you getting a legit top4 defenseman in the 3rd round is pretty low. And as has already been mentioned, it's mindboggling that we didn't try to trade up when guys like Dunn and Kylington were picked in a span of just 10 picks.

Of course that is your opinion, but I think that it says a lot more about this kid than you think. It's not just about "qualifications of a captain" or the lack-there-of, but more about why he is more qualified than the rest of the players. It's a players-vote captaincy which means his teammates think he is best suited to represent the leadership in the locker room. These 19-20 year olds picked this 17 year old as there leader. I think that says a lot about character, which is more important in my opinion than yours. the maturity at his age is the greatest asset here, I believe.

I don't see how foot-speed and size could be a negative. Maybe I am interpreting what you have written wrong, but both those qualities are an asset. The fact that he is relied upon as their top defensive player, and thus goes up against the Ehlers of the QMJHL on a nightly basis, means that even on a bottom-feeder team he is in the best position to develop his defensive game. Looking at him from a developmental standpoint, if he is already being relied on to lead the team and be the backbone on defence, he will be given the best opportunity to continue to develop into the best defensive player he can be. I think your comment is a knock on his offensive ability but to have a prospect with the potential to step into the pros with an already well-defined defensive game, he has the luxury of being able to focus most of his development in the pros on offence. Part of what makes a top 2 guy is the ability to log heavy minutes against the top players in the league. He is already doing this at 17. I think this is the best chance you can get in the 3rd round.

Think about McCann. He focused on his defensive game during his draft year. People questioned his offensive game. His draft +1 was a very successful one offensively. When he goes pro he will have spent a few years playing as a 1st line centre while being relied on defensively. Since McCann could already play a strong two-way game, he just needed to focus on his offence. Brisebois might not have the same kind of shot McCann has, but he does a great job of finding lanes to get the puck to the net.

I want to take a moment to address the trading up thing. Trying to predict how easy it could have been to move up in the draft is very difficult. It's very possible Vancouver felt like what was offered to move up cost too much. I think it should not factor into debating who we picked with our draft pick.

Again, this is just my opinion, but I think the potential in this kid could be high, we just haven't seen his offensive side yet. Could be very exciting.

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Of course that is your opinion, but I think that it says a lot more about this kid than you think. It's not just about "qualifications of a captain" or the lack-there-of, but more about why he is more qualified than the rest of the players. It's a players-vote captaincy which means his teammates think he is best suited to represent the leadership in the locker room. These 19-20 year olds picked this 17 year old as there leader. I think that says a lot about character, which is more important in my opinion than yours. the maturity at his age is the greatest asset here, I believe.

I don't see how foot-speed and size could be a negative. Maybe I am interpreting what you have written wrong, but both those qualities are an asset. The fact that he is relied upon as their top defensive player, and thus goes up against the Ehlers of the QMJHL on a nightly basis, means that even on a bottom-feeder team he is in the best position to develop his defensive game. Looking at him from a developmental standpoint, if he is already being relied on to lead the team and be the backbone on defence, he will be given the best opportunity to continue to develop into the best defensive player he can be. I think your comment is a knock on his offensive ability but to have a prospect with the potential to step into the pros with an already well-defined defensive game, he has the luxury of being able to focus most of his development in the pros on offence. Part of what makes a top 2 guy is the ability to log heavy minutes against the top players in the league. He is already doing this at 17. I think this is the best chance you can get in the 3rd round.

Think about McCann. He focused on his defensive game during his draft year. People questioned his offensive game. His draft +1 was a very successful one offensively. When he goes pro he will have spent a few years playing as a 1st line centre while being relied on defensively. Since McCann could already play a strong two-way game, he just needed to focus on his offence. Brisebois might not have the same kind of shot McCann has, but he does a great job of finding lanes to get the puck to the net.

I want to take a moment to address the trading up thing. Trying to predict how easy it could have been to move up in the draft is very difficult. It's very possible Vancouver felt like what was offered to move up cost too much. I think it should not factor into debating who we picked with our draft pick.

Again, this is just my opinion, but I think the potential in this kid could be high, we just haven't seen his offensive side yet. Could be very exciting.

Him being a captain is obviously not a bad thing, i'm just getting the feeling that our management overvalue this fact. While i didn't want a guy with attitude problems, like Pilon, i think attitude is overrated at this state of their careers. Brisebrois being a captain of his junior team isn't going to get him to the NHL, unless he's got the skill to make it.
If you're a big defenseman, it's obviously important that you're a good skater. But you're also not going to make it on your skating alone. I'm just feeling that his upside isn't that high, but i'd love to see him prove me wrong.
I also think that it's important for guys to play major roles for their teams in junior. Speaking of guys like McCann and Cassels, they both played for better teams, and better organizations. I think being part of a "winning" organization in junior is just as important as playing big minutes. There's a reason why the London Knights have produced so many great NHL-players, they're always competing.
Cassels played on the 3rd line in the 2012-13 season, but since Boone Jenner "graduated" after that season, he was bound to play on the 2nd line the next year, which was a great opportunity for him. McCann will have a great team next year as well.
It's all about if you think it's worth it or not. Personally, i think our prospect pool lacks quality, not quantity. This is a quantity pick for me. Not bad, not great. Getting one of the defensemen in the 2nd round would have been huge for us, considering how deep the 2nd round was going into day 2. You could only speculate what the price would have been, but i doubt it would have been more than 3rd+3rd/4th for early/late 2nd rounder. Other teams had the balls to make some moves for picks (the sh*tty return for Lack doesn't count here), we didn't.
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Guillaume Brisebois speaks with reporters after being drafted 66th overall by the Vancouver Canucks in the 2015 NHL Draft.

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The kid was young, and eating up A LOT of defensive responsibilities. He is also one of those players that started out as a forward, and then converted to defense. So honestly, I don't question at least too much about his offensive potential. Give the kid a half decent team, and see what you get

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I'm really high on this kid now. He'll be a man in no time repping our colours. Watch him excel when his team around him improves. I'm excited to see how he does at camp :)

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I like the presence his will bring to our prospects pool of defensemen.

He is easily becoming one of my favourites from this draft

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I think Benning just wants copies of Bo; he wants guys that are mature and with great character.

Hey if we can get a team of captain serious light we will be in very good shape.

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Him being a captain is obviously not a bad thing, i'm just getting the feeling that our management overvalue this fact. While i didn't want a guy with attitude problems, like Pilon, i think attitude is overrated at this state of their careers. Brisebrois being a captain of his junior team isn't going to get him to the NHL, unless he's got the skill to make it.
If you're a big defenseman, it's obviously important that you're a good skater. But you're also not going to make it on your skating alone. I'm just feeling that his upside isn't that high, but i'd love to see him prove me wrong.
I also think that it's important for guys to play major roles for their teams in junior. Speaking of guys like McCann and Cassels, they both played for better teams, and better organizations. I think being part of a "winning" organization in junior is just as important as playing big minutes. There's a reason why the London Knights have produced so many great NHL-players, they're always competing.
Cassels played on the 3rd line in the 2012-13 season, but since Boone Jenner "graduated" after that season, he was bound to play on the 2nd line the next year, which was a great opportunity for him. McCann will have a great team next year as well.
It's all about if you think it's worth it or not. Personally, i think our prospect pool lacks quality, not quantity. This is a quantity pick for me. Not bad, not great. Getting one of the defensemen in the 2nd round would have been huge for us, considering how deep the 2nd round was going into day 2. You could only speculate what the price would have been, but i doubt it would have been more than 3rd+3rd/4th for early/late 2nd rounder. Other teams had the balls to make some moves for picks (the sh*tty return for Lack doesn't count here), we didn't.

Ok late second round probably work with that proposal but early second round, we need like a two late second or a mid second and a early third to move up. At 66, JB probably feels that the talent drop off if any does not warrant sacrificing quantity especially with our bare prospect pool. Pretty sure JB feels Brisebois and Kylington's upside are similar or he would have moved up but this is up to debate but I would give JB the benefit of the doubt when it comes to scouting.

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I'm predicting now: Briseois will be a hall of player and Eddie lack will go on to have a wonderful nhl career.

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^^ I'm being 100% whole hearted when I say that he will be a HOF player. I don't believe he will do it by putting up a lot of points but from bringing his other intangibles and his character. He looks like someone with poise far beyond his years. I was a little on the fence until I saw the interview posted above. To me he looks like a future hall of famer. I've never said that about any canucks player but I feel strongly about this one. Look forward to seeing him grow over the years. :D love this man.

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Ok late second round probably work with that proposal but early second round, we need like a two late second or a mid second and a early third to move up. At 66, JB probably feels that the talent drop off if any does not warrant sacrificing quantity especially with our bare prospect pool. Pretty sure JB feels Brisebois and Kylington's upside are similar or he would have moved up but this is up to debate but I would give JB the benefit of the doubt when it comes to scouting.

Maybe not in this draft considering the depth of the 2nd round after the picks Boston etc made. But in some circumstances 2 early 3rds for an early 2nd could have got it done IMO, if we're trading with the right team.

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The joke is you using one mistake to try and call it a bad pick...

Show me a D-man that never makes a mistake.

Sbisa :bigblush:

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17yr old kid wiffing on a clapper in 1 vid and he is a bust according to some of the tinpot GM's and super scouts that bless us here.

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