aGENT Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 4 hours ago, garthsbutcher said: I realize he's draft plus 2, but I believe he missed a ton of hockey due to serious health issues which makes this season something to at least be optimistic about. At worst, he's solid D depth in Utica the next few years. And who knows, maybe he's a late bloomer that makes the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Dude is killing it! 46 points in 36 games as s D man! captsin of the team 6'1 shoots right- that is a lot to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigerian Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I watched his highlights from last night year and from what I gathered he skates well, gets his shots on net and has good playmaking IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 A bit of a chaser in his own end but been having a great year, hopefully see him progress in Utica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. Cool. A righty and a lefty.... pair em up and get some chemistry going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. Wow, what a coincidence (and nice for us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. From a 15th place team to a 4th place team. Should improve on his already impressive stats and get a good playoff run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 As usual, @-Vintage Canuck- posts all the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. I love this. 2 prospects. Possible D pairings. Build that chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: From a 15th place team to a 4th place team. Should improve on his already impressive stats and get a good playoff run in. Would be nice to see them paired together too and develop some chemistry Wonder if he plays top pairing mins, because that is where he got his bread and butter piling up the points. He might simmer down with lesser minutes although better linemates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Charlottetown loading up for playoffs. Neill was the Captain and so is Brisebois for the Islanders. I don't see how that could have worked out any better for Canucks fans. Just play them together and you're coming out of the Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Really hope Charlottetown makes the Mem Cup now. They are also getting Daniel Sprong back, who was dynamic with Chlapik in his draft year. Pretty deep lineup all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 3:25 AM, canuckledraggin said: Charlottetown loading up for playoffs. Neill was the Captain and so is Brisebois for the Islanders. I don't see how that could have worked out any better for Canucks fans. Just play them together and you're coming out of the Q Not a great weekend for Charlottetown in terms of results, but they have certainly loaded up the team and should be able to make a good playoff run. Would love to see them in the Memorial Cup. They have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On January 4, 2017 at 7:01 PM, -Vintage Canuck- said: Sherbrooke Phoenix trade Carl Neill to Charlottetown Islanders, and joins Guillaume Brisebois there. Gotta get get over to PEI and catch a game or two. At this time of year you can almost walk there over the ice. I will update things when I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Neill finally gets his first point with Charlottetown, an assist tonight. 10-37-47 in 40 games on the year now; he's still clinging to first in defenseman scoring due to his edge in total goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Carl Neill with 1 assist today. He now has 48 points (10 goals and 38 assists) in 41 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, chilliwiggins said: isn't he an overager in the Q? He is indeed. And so some of his production needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You can go through past QMJHL seasons and look at the top scoring overage Ds and 9/10 are guys that never made it to the NHL. But the 1/10 players similar to Neill (statistically speaking) are guys like Demers and Oduya. If Neill can develop into that kind of player, it would be a huge win. What he has going for him, as far as beating the odds, are things like him not being undersized or one dimensional. They've been a ton of guys over the years that put up huge points in the Q but are like 5'9 and can't play D. That's not Neill. He has good size at 6'1"-6'2" and 200+ lbs. And he's generally considered more of an all situations, two-way D than a pure offensive guy. He's even won team awards for his defensive play. So the points production just highlights the offensive side of his game, but it's hardly the only thing he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: He is indeed. And so some of his production needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You can go through past QMJHL seasons and look at the top scoring overage Ds and 9/10 are guys that never made it to the NHL. But the 1/10 players similar to Neill (statistically speaking) are guys like Demers and Oduya. If Neill can develop into that kind of player, it would be a huge win. What he has going for him, as far as beating the odds, are things like him not being undersized or one dimensional. They've been a ton of guys over the years that put up huge points in the Q but are like 5'9 and can't play D. That's not Neill. He has good size at 6'1"-6'2" and 200+ lbs. And he's generally considered more of an all situations, two-way D than a pure offensive guy. He's even won team awards for his defensive play. So the points production just highlights the offensive side of his game, but it's hardly the only thing he's good at. Good write up. A demers or Oduya would be amazing. He looked pretty average in the young stars tourney. Not bad but nothing special either. Has a ways to go yet but will be fun to watch his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Carl Neill is Vancouver's 9th best prospect, according to the Canucks Army midterm prospects rankings: http://canucksarmy.com/2017/1/19/canucks-army-midterm-prospect-rankings-9-carl-neill Multiple viewings of Neill have shown a player that sees the ice very well, has great puck skills, and an accurate, booming slap shot, second only to Cole Candella in the Canucks' system in terms of power. Neill isn't going to "wow" you with any particular skill, but he does a lot of things well. For what it's worth, he seems like a high-character kid as well, captaining the Sherbrooke Phoenix for a season and a half, and overcoming heart problems in his draft+1 year. Read the full writeup below (or via link above): It's been a bit of a down year for a lot of Canucks prospects, especially defenders. Carl Neill has bucked that trend, scoring at over a point-per game this season in the Q, with a relatively unimpressive supporting cast. The caveat is that he's done so as an overager, so that type of production is more expected than it is encouraging. He's also cooled off a bit since being traded from the Sherbrooke Phoenix to the Charlottetown Islanders, but he's still shown enough to clock in at #9 on our consensus rankings. CAREER STATS PGPS THE RUNDOWN By now, the lack of NHL success for former QMJHL defenders is well known. Neill is no exception, as his expected success percentage has decreased from 6% all the way down to 0%. Neill had 15 height and production-based cohorts from his current season, and none successfully made the jump from junior player to NHL regular. So, it may seem odd that we have a player of his profile as high as ninth in our rankings. On one hand, it illustrates the dearth of high-end prospects in the Canucks' system; on the other, it also speaks to the limits of draft analytics. As we can see from Neill's year-to-year pGPS chart, Neill's expected success percentage hovered between 10-4% throughout his first four years in the Q. The reason for Neill's lack of successful comparables is mainly because the Q simply doesn't have a history of producing NHL defenders, especially in their overage season. In other words, Neill's expected success percentage was probably going to be 0% from the moment he returned to the Q for his overage season. So, it would be a major leap in logic to imply that Neill's jump from .8 points per game to 1.2 is somehow a bad thing. A player on Neill's current development path becoming an NHL regular would be more or less unprecedented, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. In fact, Neill's tools were impressive enough to me that I ranked him as the Canucks' second-best D prospect. Multiple viewings of Neill have shown a player that sees the ice very well, has great puck skills, and an accurate, booming slap shot, second only to Cole Candella in the Canucks' system in terms of power. Neill isn't going to "wow" you with any particular skill, but he does a lot of things well. For what it's worth, he seems like a high-character kid as well, captaining the Sherbrooke Phoenix for a season and a half, and overcoming heart problems in his draft+1 year. When I covered Neill in last year's prospect profiles, pGPS churned up a couple of interesting matches for Neill's last full season with the Phoenix in Jason Demers and Johnny Oduya. So, there's enough upside there to be cautiously optimistic in spite of how things look right now. Hopefully, Neill will play in Utica next fall and start on the path to increasing his low success percentage. Until then, Neill will get the chance to play for a contending team in the Q for the first time in his junior career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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