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1 hour ago, Where'd Luongo? said:

HAH! NCAA isn't near the level of AHL. Most of those guys don't play hockey anymore when they are done. 6.4% go pro.

Agreed.  Most people grossly underestimate the level of play and the overall caliber of both players and coaches in the AHL. 

 

Simply look at the players who absolutely dominate the CHL/European Leagues/NCAA who go to the AHL and noticeably struggle or suddenly become 'average' players.   

 

I always laugh when people here (and there are many) suggest guys like Lind, Gajo, Dalhen will turn up in Utica and dominate there.....it's pretty rare that happening....

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I know he didn't have any points in the stretch of games he got, but he didn't look out of place in the lineup. Was unlucky with a few chances.

 

He's shown enough to merit an opportunity at the start of the season if he comes in and has a good training camp.

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Im sure the Canucks coaching staff and management will give Gaudette every chance to make the team this fall, but its nice that they signed some players as a contingency plan if Gaudette shows he isn't quite ready.   I would imagine he would be a very good camp to show that he won't just survive in the NHL, but can thrive and contribute on a nightly basis.

 

Playing some key minutes in Utica would be good for him to adjust to the pro ranks.  Ryan Johnson, Trent Cull and co have done a fabulous job so far creating that culture and character, Gaudette would benefit from being there.

 

I thought at the end he had some good moments throughout the games and got better as they went on, but still think he needs seasoning.  Would not be upset if he gets sent down to Utica at the beginning of the year and we start off with Beagle/Schaller or whoever as our bottom six centres. 

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I think the signing they made the last couple days will make it harder for Gaudette and others to make the Canucks.  And make it hard for other young players to make the Comets.  They will need to beat the door down in preseason to make the team.  We will see competition at all position in training camp this year.  

 

Beyond Gaudette we have Dahlen, Jasek, Petterssen, Demko, Juolevi, Sautner, McEneny, and maybe Hughes (if he signs) all thinking they can crack this lineup.  I am not sure we have room for three rookies now, maybe two?

 

On the other hand, some time in Utica wouldn't hurt anything but the pride of any of those young guys.  And it could really help their development. 

 

And that didn't even mention Boucher, Motte and Goldobin who don't look like they have earned spots on the Canucks either.  

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Gaudette is always one of the players Benning mentions for the upcoming season.  He'll be on the team.

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9 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said:

Gaudette is always one of the players Benning mentions for the upcoming season.  He'll be on the team.

Benning clearly likes what Gaudette brings to the table and I think he hopes that Gaudette makes the team, but I hope we judge him on how he actually is, not what we hope him to be. We've made that mistake with McCann and Virtanen in the past, so it's best to play carefully here.

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I wouldn't mind Gaudette start in Utica unless he absolutely has a great camp and preseason.  

 

It's likely that could happen now with these 3 UFA signings...he could be the first call-up when needed.

 

I'd like him to get 20 or 30 AHL in to see how he does. 

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29 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Benning clearly likes what Gaudette brings to the table and I think he hopes that Gaudette makes the team, but I hope we judge him on how he actually is, not what we hope him to be. We've made that mistake with McCann and Virtanen in the past, so it's best to play carefully here.

I don't think the comparison of the mistake they made with McCann and Virtanen to Gaudette playing this year is fair.

 

Those two played straight from junior.  Gaudette will be 22 at the start of this season has been playing for a few years against men, not juniors.  To be fair, you really need to compare Gaudette to what Boeser did last year,  . . .  and that turned out pretty well.

[not saying he will have a season like Boeser, just a similar player/age/experience level joining the NHL.]

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4 hours ago, Stormriders said:

I don't think the comparison of the mistake they made with McCann and Virtanen to Gaudette playing this year is fair.

 

Those two played straight from junior.  Gaudette will be 22 at the start of this season has been playing for a few years against men, not juniors.  To be fair, you really need to compare Gaudette to what Boeser did last year,  . . .  and that turned out pretty well.

[not saying he will have a season like Boeser, just a similar player/age/experience level joining the NHL.]

You make fair points, thanks for pointing that out. My concerns are that Gaudette didn't really wow me and didn't feel like he was quite at an NHL level yet last year. As much as I want him to become our next great middle six forward, I want him to be ready first. If he plays like he did in his few games last year, I don't think he's ready. If he improves, then maybe he is. He had some brilliant moments, but he was overwhelminginlgy...underwhelming :P. 

 

In contrast, Boeser dominated the game during his 9 game stint in 2016-17, which is why many (including myself) had him slotted for the top 6.

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Gaudette has to be on the opening night roster. Theres no way they waste a year on his elc for a hand full of games, just to put him in the minors a few months later.

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7 minutes ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Gaudette has to be on the opening night roster. Theres no way they waste a year on his elc for a hand full of games, just to put him in the minors a few months later.

This is the sunk cost fallacy though. Past costs shouldn't factor into future decisions. I'm hoping the decision is made based on his play in training camp and what we've seen of him already, not the year already burnt off his contract. I'm hoping he comes out strong and earns a spot.

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50 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

This is the sunk cost fallacy though. Past costs shouldn't factor into future decisions. I'm hoping the decision is made based on his play in training camp and what we've seen of him already, not the year already burnt off his contract. I'm hoping he comes out strong and earns a spot.

It's more the sign of their expectations.  This "sunk cost" business was invented by the local media as a way of implying that Benning was trying to save his ego over Gudbranson by "doubling down on his mistake".  Quite insulting and arrogant not to mention childish of them, really, as if it's a schoolyard (like the TSN shows typically resemble).  He gains no benefit by doing what's bad for the team just to supposedly make himself look good.

 

1 hour ago, -AJ- said:

In contrast, Boeser dominated the game during his 9 game stint in 2016-17, which is why many (including myself) had him slotted for the top 6.

Boeser was always projected to be a top-6 player though, whereas Gaudette starting showing promise halfway through his freshman season.  He then dominated the next year, and followed that with leading the NCAA and winning the Hobey Baker.  He's had an extra year of college hockey, and could maybe even have made the team last year, just like Boeser could have the year before.  Imo he did not look out of place in his 5 games, and showed definite improvement after he got his feet wet in even just the first game.  Was already generating offense and starting to play aggressively, and with a bit of better fortune (i.e. finisher, Boucher) he could have had a few points.

 

I expect he beats out the likes of Gaunce, Leipsic, and Goldobin for a roster spot.

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On 6/12/2018 at 9:17 AM, Where'd Luongo? said:

Gaudette will be sent to the AHL by November. He's nowhere near good enough for the show.

Horrible take:picard:

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Gaudette wont be in the minors unless he had a horrendous offseason.  He needs to play with skilled players or at least players not named Nic Dowd to succeed.  He looked great and should've had at least 2 points in the 5 games he played.  Saying he's nowhere good enough for the show is just justification for why you're on my ignore list. Try watching the games next time instead of looking at 0 points and deducing that he isn't good enough for the NHL. 

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Big jump from college to the show. He's feisty, got a nice hit or two in during his 5 games and probably should have had a couple points, but watching him closely you could tell he was a step behind. He didn't have the speed and power in his first few steps. Will be fun to see where he's at after the summer. 

 

I certainly wouldn't be against him starting out in Utica. It will never hurt him or his development to do so. Play well and earn a call up. 

If he earns a spot on the big club he should start out on the fourth line and work his way up like Horvat did. 

 

Nucks have some high end prospects with the likes of pettersson and hughes who will more than likely become good-great NHL players, but are also gaining a cupboard full of prospects who are a tier below those guys. Guys like Gaudette, Dahlen, Lind, Juolevi, Gadjovich. It's going to be fun watching these guys develop over the next few years. We just have to hope a few of them live up to their potential and even surpass it!

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18 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

Gaudette wont be in the minors unless he had a horrendous offseason.  He needs to play with skilled players or at least players not named Nic Dowd to succeed.  He looked great and should've had at least 2 points in the 5 games he played.  Saying he's nowhere good enough for the show is just justification for why you're on my ignore list. Try watching the games next time instead of looking at 0 points and deducing that he isn't good enough for the NHL. 

IMO he'll probably be good enough to start up here and I'll not be surprised or disappointed if he does.

 

That said, depending on what other moves are made heading in to the season, it's (rightly) going to be a hell of a dog fight for roster spots (finally). And playing likely 1C in Utica at +/- 20 minutes a night, in all situations and available for injury depth wouldn't be a bad situation AT ALL either. 

 

He'd still get plenty of play time up here with injuries and perhaps even see a permanent spot open at the TDL.

 

 

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12 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said:

Gaudette has to be on the opening night roster. Theres no way they waste a year on his elc for a hand full of games, just to put him in the minors a few months later.

Could not disagree more with this statement.   If he does not come to camp and earn a spot, then the message is "sign your elc and we are so worried about something five plus years from now that we will give you a spot even if you don't earn it".    Sacrificing one prospect's controllable term to send a strong message to 50 plus professionals in your organization is worth it every single time if that one player feels any sort of entitlement because he "burned a year" on his ELC.

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Yeah I agree with Rob. With that said, even though his stats didn't show it, I think Gaudette showed well last season and I believe his drive will be strong enough that he will make it out of camp and have a great offseason.  

 

I like that we are bringing in character guys who push *themselves*.  Makes for fantastic competition throughout.

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Rob is right here I think.  Watching AG in his 5 games he played ok but I was expecting more because he was the leading scorer at NU and the next Holby Baker winner.  I think he is going to be a solid 3rd line centre or possible even a second centre but some time in Utica would only help him adjust and then after Christmas bring him back up.:)

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12 hours ago, ReggieBush said:

Horrible take:picard:

Right, because having him on a stacked comets team where he can play instead of getting owned in the nhl is a bad thing. You're out to lunch bud. 

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