Provost Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Pittsburgh has a huge cap problem with only 15 players signed. Bonino for Sutter straight up seems like a good deal in this circumstance. Sutter is a better player, but is a higher cap hit and UFA after the season. Bonino is a fine 3C for Pittsburgh at a much more affordable price and is signed for an extra year at that cap hit. For us, we get a better player.... and if things go wrong this year Sutter would bring a huge premium at the trade deadline to a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Throw in Jensen to make sure we get him. Jensen isn't happening here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 No. Sutter got 40 points once and that was 5 years ago Bonino's been on pace for over 40 points the past two seasons. Bonino>Sutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 this is the third time this has been proposed in the last few weeks. No. Sutter got 40 points once and that was 5 years ago Bonino's been on pace for over 40 points the past two seasons. Bonino>Sutter exactly. also bonino is 1.9m /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Yes, but the Pens say NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 No thanks, Bonino is the better player, is signed longer and has a lower cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 No point, they're pretty similar, I'd say Bonino is better defensively and far cheaper. If anything Pittsburgh throws in a 3rd rounder as well, otherwise there's no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Sign Santo for 2 years and move Bones for 2016/7 draft pick(s). Similar players but Santo has more pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Yes, but the Pens say NO. Pens can't afford Sutter new contract, Bonino is on another year at an amazing cap hit. Don't think Sutter is all that amazing anyways and he'll be way more expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Pittsburgh has a huge cap problem with only 15 players signed. Bonino for Sutter straight up seems like a good deal in this circumstance. Sutter is a better player, but is a higher cap hit and UFA after the season. Bonino is a fine 3C for Pittsburgh at a much more affordable price and is signed for an extra year at that cap hit. For us, we get a better player.... and if things go wrong this year Sutter would bring a huge premium at the trade deadline to a contender. Well that worked out as proposed... almost. When I thought it was a good idea, I actually though we could get a young prospect in return for helping Pittsburgh shed salary. It was the other way around. I still hold to the idea that if the season goes terribly and Sutter doesn't re-up for a good value deal... he would bring a huge premium at the deadline to a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Lmao no &^@#ing way. Thays hilarious. You win cdc for the month bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Stammer- Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 the fock, Iluminatti confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 JB reads the forum. JB reads the forum! CONFIRMED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'd post a slow-clap but don't know how. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayingBurke Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 GM Provost out gming again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well done Provost Throw in Jensen to make sure we get him. Jensen isn't happening here anyway. Turns out the throw in was Clendenning, who also probably wasn't happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Pittsburgh has a huge cap problem with only 15 players signed. Bonino for Sutter straight up seems like a good deal in this circumstance. Sutter is a better player, but is a higher cap hit and UFA after the season. Bonino is a fine 3C for Pittsburgh at a much more affordable price and is signed for an extra year at that cap hit. For us, we get a better player.... and if things go wrong this year Sutter would bring a huge premium at the trade deadline to a contender. Smartypantz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Lmao no ???? way. Thays hilarious. You win cdc for the month bro. Even a dummy like me can be right every once in a while! It actually makes sense in terms of how I said it, not terribly in love with the deal but it is better than the last few. If the rumours are true and we are extending Sutter and it comes at a decent cap hit I think we win the trade, he brings a lot more upside to the table and has elements that are valuable even when he isn't scoring. Having him take more defensive draws allows Horvat and the Sedins to focus more on offense. That plan worked when Malhotra took over defensive duties from Kesler and it turned into a career year for Kes. Clendening has nothing that you can't replace on the waiver wire... the pick swap is negligent as you are likely to be able to get the same player you target at low 2nd or high 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Pittsburgh has a huge cap problem with only 15 players signed. Bonino for Sutter straight up seems like a good deal in this circumstance. Sutter is a better player, but is a higher cap hit and UFA after the season. Bonino is a fine 3C for Pittsburgh at a much more affordable price and is signed for an extra year at that cap hit. For us, we get a better player.... and if things go wrong this year Sutter would bring a huge premium at the trade deadline to a contender. Well done ! Although I like your trade more than the reality fo what was really traded. Either way nice call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Phooey Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Even a dummy like me can be right every once in a while! It actually makes sense in terms of how I said it, not terribly in love with the deal but it is better than the last few. If the rumours are true and we are extending Sutter and it comes at a decent cap hit I think we win the trade, he brings a lot more upside to the table and has elements that are valuable even when he isn't scoring. Having him take more defensive draws allows Horvat and the Sedins to focus more on offense. That plan worked when Malhotra took over defensive duties from Kesler and it turned into a career year for Kes. Clendening has nothing that you can't replace on the waiver wire... the pick swap is negligent as you are likely to be able to get the same player you target at low 2nd or high 3rd. Good call Provost. I liked your proposal when you put it out there and I like it even more today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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