thejazz97 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 One supporter. Labamba makes two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Labamba makes two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I'm just wondering, out of the three I mentioned, which one do you prefer the most? Prob Iggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Prob Iggy. You mean Timothy Dalton? Yeah, out of those three, I'd have to say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I changed it. It is still a majority of Canadas Wheat Board sold to Saudi Arabia. Canadians should be concerned about these things. Instead the majority of Canadians aren't even aware that Harper did these things to create the illusion of an economy derived surplus. I find it offensive that so many Harper supporters are pointing to the surplus as a sign that he has run our economy effectively. I put it in bright pink and huge font so it catches the casual perusers eyes. Canadians have a right to know the truth about how the surplus came about. Yes I will bump my post again and it will be in a huge font and a bright color. You post these things but do you really understand them? You just assume that they are a negative likely because you saw it on some facebook post. But do you farm? do you have any back ground knowledge on the subject, it would appear you do since your pointing your stance on it. For me, growing up on a farm with over 5,000 arces, I do have background in this, The wheat board was a garbage monopoly. It's intentions were to protect farmers but it really didn't. It forced us to sell to the WB for how much and when they said, even though we could often get better price options. The majority of the people I know in my farming community are glad it's gone and very few people were using it, you can see with increase of wheat being seeded since. The only ones that seem to be complaining are the ones who haven't spend a day in the field and couldn't tell the difference between a canola and mustard field. Think of all the other grains outside of wheat and barley, the majority of grain companies are foreign owned and no one cares about that, they seem to be doing fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Wayne's coaching adventures in Phoenix were less disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Wayne's coaching adventures in Phoenix were less disappointing. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 You post these things but do you really understand them? You just assume that they are a negative likely because you saw it on some facebook post. But do you farm? do you have any back ground knowledge on the subject, it would appear you do since your pointing your stance on it. For me, growing up on a farm with over 5,000 arces, I do have background in this, The wheat board was a garbage monopoly. It's intentions were to protect farmers but it really didn't. It forced us to sell to the WB for how much and when they said, even though we could often get better price options. The majority of the people I know in my farming community are glad it's gone and very few people were using it, you can see with increase of wheat being seeded since. The only ones that seem to be complaining are the ones who haven't spend a day in the field and couldn't tell the difference between a canola and mustard field. Think of all the other grains outside of wheat and barley, the majority of grain companies are foreign owned and no one cares about that, they seem to be doing fine. I know a lot of wheat farmers in my area, and they have all said what you mentioned above. They are thrilled that the WB is gone, because it really screwed them out of a lot of money. Their profits are significantly higher since it's been gone. (Though hail screwed a lot of them over.) All of them are happy to see the end of the WB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Wutevs. Wayner lives in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Harper has a mediocre economic track record during a collapsing world economy, yes, but the Liberals have had a poor record even during global economic boom years. Look at Ontario, if it was a separate country it'd be in the same economic boat as Greece. Don't even get me started on the NDP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/09/19/how-harper-contrives-news Last time I checked, Government is to be the voice of the people, not stifle it. And someone who doesn't want to engage or answer questions? If you don't "hear" the concerns/questions, how are you effectively going to address them? Nope. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 http://www.nationalobserver.com/2015/09/19/how-harper-contrives-news Last time I checked, Government is to be the voice of the people, not stifle it. And someone who doesn't want to engage or answer questions? If you don't "hear" the concerns/questions, how are you effectively going to address them? Nope. Awful. All about fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Harper has a mediocre economic track record during a collapsing world economy, yes, but the Liberals have had a poor record even during global economic boom years. Look at Ontario, if it was a separate country it'd be in the same economic boat as Greece. Don't even get me started on the NDP... You do realize federal and provincial parties are not the same, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Can somebody with a better web connection please find and link to a website that has the last 15-20 years of economic records for every political party of every province and the country as a whole. ? Getting tired of ndp bad money manager , conservatives good bs. I think reality is far different than most people hear from the pro business news/papers. Here is BC's debt clock- a liberal government http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/british-columbia/british-columbia-s-debt/ Over $64.8 billion and growing Canadian debt- a conservative government http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/Canada over $1.052 trillion and growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Can somebody with a better web connection please find and link to a website that has the last 15-20 years of economic records for every political party of every province and the country as a whole. ? Getting tired of ndp bad money manager , conservatives good bs. I think reality is far different than most people hear from the pro business news/papers. Here is BC's debt clock- a liberal government http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/british-columbia/british-columbia-s-debt/ Over $64.8 billion and growing Canadian debt- a conservative government http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/Canada over $1.052 trillion and growing According to this it's just over $600 Billion, which is correct? http://www.debtclock.ca/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alt kilgore Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Harper has a mediocre economic track record during a collapsing world economy, yes, but the Liberals have had a poor record even during global economic boom years. Look at Ontario, if it was a separate country it'd be in the same economic boat as Greece.Don't even get me started on the NDP... Well, one can start by saying the NDP have the best fiscal record of any governing party in Canada. Of course one has to include Provincially, because that's all they have gotten to. http://www.progressive-economics.ca/2011/04/29/fiscal-record-of-canadian-political-parties/ Of the 52 years the NDP has formed governments in Canada since 1980, they’ve run balanced budgets for exactly half of those years and deficits the other half. This is a better record than both the Conservatives (balanced budgets 37% of years in government) and the Liberals (only 27%), as well as both Social Credit and PQ governments. See first chart below. It’s not just the number of years of balance that is relevant: it’s also the size of the deficits or surpluses that are important. For this, the most important figure is the size of deficits as a share of GDP. And this study was done in 2011, so it doesn't include the 6 straight deficits by Mr. Harper. And his fake balanced one this year by not spending money allocated for vets, jobless youth, the disabled, immigrants and adult literacy. So the Cons may have squeezed out the Libs for last spot by now. And the Liberals, in case you've forgotten, left Harper a surplus. Also, if it weren't for Paul Martins insistence on strict banking regulations, Canada would have followed the US's slide into Bush's recession. But Harper was quick to claim that as something he accomplished. If he had had been in a majority one term earlier, Harper would have not only mimicked his mentor Dubya's turning the financial district into a giant casino, but also would have dragged Canada into the costly, illegal invasion of Iraq, and would have cost us dearly in lives and $ and on top that, forced Canadians to also accept a part in creating ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Well, one can start by saying the NDP have the best fiscal record of any governing party in Canada. Of course one has to include Provincially, because that's all they have gotten to. http://www.progressive-economics.ca/2011/04/29/fiscal-record-of-canadian-political-parties/ Of the 52 years the NDP has formed governments in Canada since 1980, they’ve run balanced budgets for exactly half of those years and deficits the other half. This is a better record than both the Conservatives (balanced budgets 37% of years in government) and the Liberals (only 27%), as well as both Social Credit and PQ governments. See first chart below. It’s not just the number of years of balance that is relevant: it’s also the size of the deficits or surpluses that are important. For this, the most important figure is the size of deficits as a share of GDP. And this study was done in 2011, so it doesn't include the 6 straight deficits by Mr. Harper. And his fake balanced one this year by not spending money allocated for vets, jobless youth, the disabled, immigrants and adult literacy. So the Cons may have squeezed out the Libs for last spot by now. And the Liberals, in case you've forgotten, left Harper a surplus. Also, if it weren't for Paul Martins insistence on strict banking regulations, Canada would have followed the US's slide into Bush's recession. But Harper was quick to claim that as something he accomplished. If he had had been in a majority one term earlier, Harper would have not only mimicked his mentor Dubya's turning the financial district into a giant casino, but also would have dragged Canada into the costly, illegal invasion of Iraq, and would have cost us dearly in lives and $ and on top that, forced Canadians to also accept a part in creating ISIS. Spot on. To add, if Mulcair gets rid of 2 tier citizenship, he gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Well, one can start by saying the NDP have the best fiscal record of any governing party in Canada. Of course one has to include Provincially, because that's all they have gotten to. It took years for BC to recover from the damage the NDP did when they were in power last. It's the main reason The Liberals are in power still today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 It took years for BC to recover from the damage the NDP did when they were in power last. It's the main reason The Liberals are in power still today. They were booted more for scandals than fiscal management. They can't get reelected provincially because they're a disorganized cluster @$!? With poor leadership selection. There's a touch more to that story... Just like there'll be touch more to the story if the NDP get elected federally next month, of their coming term. Unfortunately for them, the current conservative party has already written a large portion of the next leaders term fiscally for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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