c00kies Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 There are some awful trades going on here lol.Hamhuis is in a contract year, no? He holds limited value due to this and his age, if Colorado wants to fix their defense they will want a younger d-man that can fill the void for a long time.Duchene may be struggling this year, but you can't neglect his prior success. Duchene is going to cost more than McCann and Hammer. Colorado is going to want a d-man similar to Duchene's value, think of the Jack Johnson for Jeff Carter trade; Carter wanted out and Columbus still got good value for him. I don't know all the d-men that are similar in value to Duchene and that are available, but Vancouver sure doesn't have any.Edit: Niikita Zadorov is an unbelievable young d-man and was a huge part of the ROR deal...there's no way Colorado adds him into a deal with Duchene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm all for giving them Edler + Cassels + 2nd rounder for Duchene. Just highly doubt Edler would waive his NTC. If he didn't want to waive it to go to Detroit a few years ago and play with all those Swedes I don't think Colorado will entice him enough. We'd have an excess in C down the middle which means we could later use Horvat or McCann down the road as a trading chip for a stud Dman. Boom! That's team built to win the cup Edler is so meek that I imagine JB could put his grown up face and get Edler to do just about anything...use your imagination...anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm all for giving them Edler + Cassels + 2nd rounder for Duchene. Just highly doubt Edler would waive his NTC. If he didn't want to waive it to go to Detroit a few years ago and play with all those Swedes I don't think Colorado will entice him enough. We'd have an excess in C down the middle which means we could later use Horvat or McCann down the road as a trading chip for a stud Dman. Boom! That's team built to win the cup 2 moves make us younger but still competitive and maybe even better next year. (i think trying to rebuild and be totally hellbent on the playoffs is a stupid stratgey, and I am not proposing going full Edmonton or anything) 1. To COL : Edler + Cassels + Jensen To VAN: Duchenne + 2nd2. To ANA: Vrbata + Hansen + Hamhuis (max salary retained for remainder of 2016 season)+ 1st + Bartowski To VAN: Theadore + Julius Nattinen (Canucks wanted to draft him)+ Cam Fowler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Then Next year sign Demers 4.75 mill, Ladd 6.5 millLadd Duchenne SutterSedin Sedin VirtanenBaertschi Horvat BurrowsPrust McCann Dorsette Fowler TanevHutton DemersTheadore Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I expect they would covet a Dman in his prime or in the midst. Make no mistake, Matt Duchene is extremely talented, I could see this turning into a Segiun type deal.You should never trade players with his talent, he just doesn't jive with Roy.I'd change the coach before I dealt Duchene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I think Duchene is one of the most underrated players in the league. His speed is rightfully acknowledged, but his hands, puck protection and shot are not. I would be alright with bringing him over, but his long term cap hit is a slight concern. I'm not even sure if we have the pieces that Colorado would want. However, a future top-6 including Duchene would be amazing: Duchene - Horvat - VirtanenShinkaurik - McCann - Boeser Or if you want Duchene to be a centerman: McCann - Duchene - VirtanenShinkaurik - Horvat - Boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Definitely cost us one of Hutton or Tanev and and a solid forward. Duchene is the best player in this dealNot worth since defense is not our surplus on our roster or strength on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 We need a player like Duchene, but I honestly don't think we have the pieces in exchange. Sure we could surround a deal around Edler or Tanev, but we're definitely going to be adding. Think of maybe a B prospect and a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Way too much. I'd throw Cracknell in as well if that helps.Yea. Shouldn't need to add much more. Tanev is dead sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 classic cdc... ignorance combined with a bit of snark. Unless you talk shop with Colorado management you don't know if we have anything they want.Some people still wouldn't know after that management conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Edler, Jensen and/or Gaunce and a high pick for Duchene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All of these quality centers becoming available. Why now when the Canucks don't need one.oh well... I guess we'll have to make dUE WITH HANK, SUTTER, HORVAT AND McCANN! Next on the list, heal the wounded and win some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Not that I would do it but it would probably cost usHorvat/McCann-Hutton-Tanev and a 1st round draft pick for Duchene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Anyone proposing a Duchene to the Canucks is way off.Colorado wants a young, top-4 defender to build around. This is also #1 on our list. We'd have to include Hutton or Tanev to make it happen, which would be quite stupid - especially considering we have a lot of good young centers already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK7Teen Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 To Colmurray Atkinson And 2017 1st pickfor To CBJDuchene and 4th round pickorTo ColBurakovsky, Orlov and 1st pick 2016forTo Wsh:Duchene 4th round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Honestly, when you think of the ultimate defenceman factory, it has to be Nashville. I think they'd be the best trade partner here given the amount of defenceman that Nashville has.How about...Colorado receives: Ryan Ellis, Cody Hodgson, 1st or 2nd round pickNashville receives: Matt Duchene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Honestly, when you think of the ultimate defenceman factory, it has to be Nashville. I think they'd be the best trade partner here given the amount of defenceman that Nashville has.How about...Colorado receives: Ryan Ellis, Cody Hodgson, 1st or 2nd round pickNashville receives: Matt DucheneIm with you here. If the Duche gets traded I would say its for Jones and some change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 To TorontoGardiner, Kadri, pick. Calling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 To TorontoGardiner, Kadri, pick. Calling it. I get the impression that Colorado is dangling Duchene to get a better D-man than Gardiner.Nashville and New Jersey seem the best fits. New Jersey desperately needs a player like him, and has the chips (Larsson or Severson) to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I get the impression that Colorado is dangling Duchene to get a better D-man than Gardiner.Nashville and New Jersey seem the best fits. New Jersey desperately needs a player like him, and has the chips (Larsson or Severson) to do it.Maybe you're right but I also wouldn't be surprised if they split the difference to get a forward back too. Gardiner can certainly move the puck, something that Colorado could use, and I expect that Sweet Lou will be all over this offer. I don't think they'd give up Rielly but Toronto might move heaven and earth to make that deal work with every other piece. So, yeah...Colorado might be targeting another D but they could also just take the best package offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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