elvis15 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Meh, I wouldn't sell the farm for him. Maybe Benning can work on his fleecing skills and take advantage of Snow's position of weakness. Benning could stand to work on that, would be a good opportunity if he can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 he is physical. pedan-hamonic would be an insane pk duo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm trying hard not to get excited about this, because we don't get these kind of players in trades. Getting Luongo was the last "Holy ****" player deal I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: Benning could stand to work on that, would be a good opportunity if he can do it. haha agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I would say we gave up pretty good value in the deal for Pedan. Maybe there's some good faith built up between Benning and Snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It says equivalent player, it doesn't say anything about it being a dman necessarily. probably means a mid 20's player at a similar development level as hamonic.......could be d or fwd. unless they are willing to take seasoned vets, or edler straight up, I don't see how van fits the Isles need coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks780 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 41 minutes ago, Yotes said: if edler would waive it would be a fairly good deal for both. Resign hamhuis hamhuis hamonic hutton/sbisa tanev not a bad top 4 I don't like this idea. Hamhuis in the top pair scares me. at this point in his career he's a 2nd pairing at best. We need Edler+Tanev. Hope we get him, but I don't think we have the players to give up. I think WPG or Edmonton will get Hamonic. Possibly Bufflin going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 No way we can compete with what the Oilers can offer. Not only is this guy a legit top pairing defenceman, he is also the perfect age and signed to a ludicrously low cap hit long term deal. I don't even know what we could offer. Obviously Hamhuis if he would waive would be attractive to a team wanting to compete in the playoffs. Vrbata, and Higgins are solid veterans who could be part of a package. They would want Tanev most likely, and that kind of makes it a wash since even though he is probably a superior player, we can't be sure how Hamonic will fit into the structure and chemistry. You can be sure JB has had several phone calls to try to gauge what it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 8 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Snow often makes some weird trades. Remember Niederreiter for Clutterbuck? There's a chance he may value a certain player on our roster more than we do. Hamonic for Weber straight up. Canucks retain 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpop45 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 according to Arthur Staple a beat writer for the NY ISLANDERS what garth wants is: "an established top 4 d-man, not prospects/ or draft picks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Provost said: No way we can compete with what the Oilers can offer. Not only is this guy a legit top pairing defenceman, he is also the perfect age and signed to a ludicrously low cap hit long term deal. I don't even know what we could offer. Obviously Hamhuis if he would waive would be attractive to a team wanting to compete in the playoffs. Vrbata, and Higgins are solid veterans who could be part of a package. They would want Tanev most likely, and that kind of makes it a wash since even though he is probably a superior player, we can't be sure how Hamonic will fit into the structure and chemistry. You can be sure JB has had several phone calls to try to gauge what it would take. I wouldn't close the door on moving tanev for Hamonic........bit of a wash, but I've never been completely sold on tanev or edler as a top 2 d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_Days Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Of the western Canadian teams, Wpg/Cal/Edm/Van, Winnipeg has Buffugly and Myers as RHD already, along with Trouba, Enstrom, Stuart, they they really have no need for Hamonic. Calgary is having problems right now, but they ain't moving Giordano, Brodie is safe as well and they just traded for Hamilton, they round out their D with Wideman and Russell Engelland/Smid. Doesn't make a lot of sense for Calgary to go after Hamonic. Vancouver and Edmonton are both lacking in top 4 D and RHD, both teams could use a RHD like Hamonic badly. If Edmonton wants him badly enough, I could see them moving one of Eberle or Yakupov. Nurse-Hamonic Klefbom-Sekera Schutlz-Gryba/Reinhart That's a vastly improved D-core for Edmonton over last years, plus every single player there is 25 or under minus Sekera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidstrom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Hamhuis + Vrbata for Hamonic, 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 3 minutes ago, Southpop45 said: according to Arthur Ataple a beat writer for the NY ISLANDERS "an established top 4 d-man, not prospects/ or draft picks." Yup: http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/sources-islanders-trying-to-accommodate-travis-hamonic-s-trade-request-1.11139974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I don't think we have the assets the right assets for hamonic but he would fit well as our number 3 guy behind edler/tanev hamhuis works as a vet dman on a young team on a short term replacement for hamonic to nyi: hamhuis, shinkaruk, 2nd pick 2016 to van: hamonic edler-tanev sbisa-hamonic hutton-bartkowski weber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 If this trade doesn't scream Eberle for Hamonic then idk. Snow does NOT want a pick/prospect. As much as I want him we don't have the asset equivalent to Hamonic for a trade. Unless it's Tanev but how much of an upgrade is Hamonic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpop45 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 lolz mark spector on twitter: " for VAN, ask would start with Tanev and include a young player on ELC like virtanen, shinkaruk, horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just now, stawns said: I wouldn't close the door on moving tanev for Hamonic........bit of a wash, but I've never been completely sold on tanev or edler as a top 2 d Me either, I am very late to the Tanev fan train. Mostly my concerns were that we had too many guys who brought similar skillsets. Assuming Hamhuis is gone after this season though... we no longer do. It is so equal a trade IMHO that it probably doesn't happen, there is just as much risk of downside as upside. Trades of equivalent level players tend to happen when you have a surplus of a position and trade one of them to a team that has a surplus of another type of player. One for one same position swaps are pretty rare. Higgins+Weber or Bartkowski+Shinkaruk is an easy deal that Snow would almost certainly never accept. Sbisa has played pretty well recently, but his career stats and cap hit would be considered unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greetingsfrombrazil Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Trading our only legit RHD in Tanev makes no sense. Having Tanev and Hamonic on our top 4 would be very solid, though. Sbisa may actually make sense, similar salary, 2 years left on his contract. The Isles have cap space, Vrbata would complement the deal, perhaps with another prospect since he's an UFA. But as said on this topic before, EDM may have the upper hand. Eberle has more value than Sbisa/Hamhuis + Vrbata. CGY can offer Brodie, they'd have Hamilton, Wideman and Hamonic as RHD. I'm not sure if the Flames would do that. WPG can offer Byfuglien and a forward like Burmistrov. Their RHD would be Myers, Trouba and Hamonic. I'm not sure if Hamonic is an upgrade on Big Buff, but his contract would make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, Southpop45 said: according to Arthur Staple a beat writer for the NY ISLANDERS what garth wants is: "an established top 4 d-man, not prospects/ or draft picks." Edler, all day, everyday. This might have some teeth. The Oilers don't have a dman to move better than Edler.......the only dman that might be a better option is TJ Brodie In Cowtow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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