canuck73_3 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 4 minutes ago, Marriedtothenucks said: This was obvious from last year, and with how the season ended you would think our weak defensive depth would've been addressed. How? By signing Cody Franson? Please. Was a weak defense pool in free agency paired with not mich cap space to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 minutes ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: They did get a generational player so why not? Because generational players come once per generation and it is posssible to rebuild faster than that, just ask Chicago. The Edmonton model is a failure to manage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Just now, coastal1 said: Because generational players come once per generation and it is posssible to rebuild faster than that, just ask Chicago. The Edmonton model is a failure. I'd take Auston Matthews or Chychrun this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Sooo....1 season + 25 games in and Willie needs to be fired? After coaching our team from 6th worst to one of the top 10 teams in the league last year. And now he needs to be fired. Replace him with who? Boucher? Carlyle? I hear Wilson and Crow are looking for work. Sometimes, this fan base...come on guys. Calling for the firing of the coach? Now Hamonic, would he look good in a Nucks uniform? Hell yes. Do you REALLY want Trader Jim to pull a knee jerk move right now after tonights loss and pay what Snow will want for him? Seriously think a Hamonic would have been the answer tonight to a bigger more mobile and more aggressive Jets team that was looking to end a losing skid? He might have gotten Sbisa'd instead of Sbisa. Transtion year people. Do not expect big things, expect growth expect growing pains and if you REALLY need to write love letters to management, the league or to anyone you hope might magically be listening to your please from canucks brass...than go watch curling or ringette. I survived the early and mid 80s with this team. I survived the late 90's and messier years. Stating this is the worst team iced ever is laughable. Obviously you never saw Garth Butcher or Ron Sedlbauer chugging up the ice in the flying V or original jerseys. This team has been so much worse than losing multiple 1 goal games and making it exciting to watch in the process. I expect to see some broken ankles and hear the "owes" of anguish from the bandwagon jumpers in short order. We'll stop for you to jump back on after the next string of wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzy Desjardins Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 As much as I lIke Higgy, I have to agree with a lot of posters around here that he screwed up our chemistry. I think he is the first casualty, at this point Higgins alone is addition by subtraction. I can see Vrby being moved at the deadline, not to sure about Hammer, if he expects a raise or similar pay then bye bye but if he agreed to a discount then he is a good bottom pairing player and vet for the young stud d we draft (hopefully) Burr and Hansen should stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 minute ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: I'd take Auston Matthews or Chychrun this year... Of course you would. That's the Edmonton model. Pile on the first overall and let them play before they are ready. They fail and that means more #1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Sooo....1 season + 25 games in and Willie needs to be fired? After coaching our team from 6th worst to one of the top 10 teams in the league last year. And now he needs to be fired. Replace him with who? Boucher? Carlyle? I hear Wilson and Crow are looking for work. Sometimes, this fan base...come on guys. Calling for the firing of the coach? Now Hamonic, would he look good in a Nucks uniform? Hell yes. Do you REALLY want Trader Jim to pull a knee jerk move right now after tonights loss and pay what Snow will want for him? Seriously think a Hamonic would have been the answer tonight to a bigger more mobile and more aggressive Jets team that was looking to end a losing skid? He might have gotten Sbisa'd instead of Sbisa. Transtion year people. Do not expect big things, expect growth expect growing pains and if you REALLY need to write love letters to management, the league or to anyone you hope might magically be listening to your please from canucks brass...than go watch curling or ringette. I survived the early and mid 80s with this team. I survived the late 90's and messier years. Stating this is the worst team iced ever is laughable. Obviously you never saw Garth Butcher or Ron Sedlbauer chugging up the ice in the flying V or original jerseys. This team has been so much worse than losing multiple 1 goal games and making it exciting to watch in the process. I expect to see some broken ankles and hear the "owes" of anguish from the bandwagon jumpers in short order. We'll stop for you to jump back on after the next string of wins one of the best posts of the night. guys who think this is bad havent watched the team pin their hopes on Brian Bradley or feeling excitement over Dan Quinn on the PP because he tucked his jersey in like Wayne Gretzky. This team shot their load in 2011, they gave up picks to build that team while drafting in the bottom 10 for a few years surrounding 2011. Queue the down turn. Its not a lack of effort or heart, they arent good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzy Desjardins Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Sooo....1 season + 25 games in and Willie needs to be fired? After coaching our team from 6th worst to one of the top 10 teams in the league last year. And now he needs to be fired. Replace him with who? Boucher? Carlyle? I hear Wilson and Crow are looking for work. Sometimes, this fan base...come on guys. Calling for the firing of the coach? Now Hamonic, would he look good in a Nucks uniform? Hell yes. Do you REALLY want Trader Jim to pull a knee jerk move right now after tonights loss and pay what Snow will want for him? Seriously think a Hamonic would have been the answer tonight to a bigger more mobile and more aggressive Jets team that was looking to end a losing skid? He might have gotten Sbisa'd instead of Sbisa. Transtion year people. Do not expect big things, expect growth expect growing pains and if you REALLY need to write love letters to management, the league or to anyone you hope might magically be listening to your please from canucks brass...than go watch curling or ringette. I survived the early and mid 80s with this team. I survived the late 90's and messier years. Stating this is the worst team iced ever is laughable. Obviously you never saw Garth Butcher or Ron Sedlbauer chugging up the ice in the flying V or original jerseys. This team has been so much worse than losing multiple 1 goal games and making it exciting to watch in the process. I expect to see some broken ankles and hear the "owes" of anguish from the bandwagon jumpers in short order. We'll stop for you to jump back on after the next string of wins Well said, but are you really surprised? Kids these days aren't the way they used to be, I'll tell you that .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 minutes ago, coastal1 said: Of course you would. That's the Edmonton model. Pile on the first overall and let them play before they are ready. They fail and that means more #1s. 10 minutes ago, coastal1 said: Another fan of the Edmonton rebuild program. Tell me how trading vets is a part of the Edmonton rebuild program? They just suck with the players they had. At trade deadline there are sellers and buyers and were not buyers thats for damn sure. What's wrong with giving up vets for picks/prospects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Just now, Darius71 said: one of the best posts of the night. guys who think this is bad havent watched the team pin their hopes on Brian Bradley or feeling excitement over Dan Quinn on the PP because he tucked his jersey in like Wayne Gretzky. This team shot their load in 2011, they gave up picks to build that team while drafting in the bottom 10 for a few years surrounding 2011. Queue the down turn. Its not a lack of effort or heart, they arent good enough. This current fan base would have run out to purchase their barry pederson jerseys the moment neely was traded.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 minute ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: Tell me how trading vets is a part of the Edmonton rebuild program? They just suck with the players they had. At trade deadline there are sellers and buyers and were not buyers thats for damn sure. What's wrong with giving up vets for picks/prospects? It's only good to keep vets that are setting good examples for the kids IMO. The Sedins, Burrows, Hansen, Prust, and Dorsett are great leaders for the young guys. Higgins, Hamhuis, Vrbata, and Weber can all go. I would throw in Edler and Miller, but I don't think they'll be going till next year at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 minutes ago, CANUCK-EXPRESS said: Tell me how trading vets is a part of the Edmonton rebuild program? They just suck with the players they had. At trade deadline there are sellers and buyers and were not buyers thats for damn sure. What's wrong with giving up vets for picks/prospects? Trading vets is part of the Edmonton program in the sense that once you trade the vets then you have to play the kids whether they are ready or not. Now, WD has the option of playing the vets. And if you think that this team would do better with only kids, then you have not watched Edmonton for the last 10 years. The Edmonton program is about letting the kids fail and piling up high draft picks. But it is an endless run around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: This current fan base would have run out to purchase their barry pederson jerseys the moment neely was traded.... Generalize much? Air pretty thin up there where you live? I lived through all those years as well. Doesn't mean I have to sit by and be silent about a team that is under-performing. It sounds like you and some others are giving the vets a pass. Maybe they feel the same way you do, that this team isn't good enough so why bother fighting hard. If I have to watch these guys lose, I'd at least like to see the enthusiasm the kids bring. Watching Higgins skate around for 17 minutes and achieve absolutely 0 (shots, hits, take-aways etc.) is not my idea of entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 User Actions Follow Brad Ziemer@BradZiemer The #Canucks have 7 wins in first 20 games. Last time they had fewer wins was way back in 1997-98 when they were 4-13-3 thru first 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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desiboynux4lifee******* Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 anyone figure out why this team is doing so bad ever since Higgins returned? They look stale, unexciting before Higgin the kids were flying they were skating miles cheating making plays, wtf happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 minutes ago, DIBdaQUIB said: Generalize much? Air pretty thin up there where you live? I lived through all those years as well. Doesn't mean I have to sit by and be silent about a team that is under-performing. It sounds like you and some others are giving the vets a pass. Maybe they feel the same way you do, that this team isn't good enough so why bother fighting hard. If I have to watch these guys lose, I'd at least like to see the enthusiasm the kids bring. Watching Higgins skate around for 17 minutes and achieve absolutely 0 (shots, hits, take-aways etc.) is not my idea of entertainment. I know what you mean. Give me the Oilers of the last 10 years, now that was entertainment, so much enthusiasm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 minute ago, JV77 said: User Actions Follow Brad Ziemer@BradZiemer The #Canucks have 7 wins in first 20 games. Last time they had fewer wins was way back in 1997-98 when they were 4-13-3 thru first 20 Hopefully we can draft a shade better than Ference Bonni and Druken if that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzy Desjardins Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 minutes ago, JV77 said: User Actions Follow Brad Ziemer@BradZiemer The #Canucks have 7 wins in first 20 games. Last time they had fewer wins was way back in 1997-98 when they were 4-13-3 thru first 20 Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 we have better management than the oilers had ... we have better management than the oilers have now .. while we may be in a rebuild it doesn't mean that we will suck like the oilers have or for as long .. I truly believe that our g.m has a great eye for the kind of prospects that will give you the best chance of going far in the playoffs .. he picks winners .. and by that i mean he picks guys who wanna win more than other players do . he won't pick the same , soft perimeter players that a steaming dump of a team like the coilers chose . benning has shown that already . prepare for a couple tough years folks . and then prepare to watch us run over teams that wish they would have hired our g.m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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