captaincowbasher Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It's more apparent now then ever that our beloved Canucks are just flat out terrible. Which is ok, because the real winner will be at the draft. We need to finish in the bottom 2 spots to have a legit chance at a number one center like Mathews. So if Edmonton thinks they're going to out crap us they better think again. Which leads to this point, do you resign the Sedins in 2 years or let your supposed 1st line walk away, or should you not try and get something for them, please don't bring up the "No Move" clause, If you tell the Sedins we no longer see you in our plans they would give 3-4 teams they would be willing to go to. It's just simply a good buisness decision which makes your team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just now, captaincowbasher said: It's more apparent now then ever that our beloved Canucks are just flat out terrible. Which is ok, because the real winner will be at the draft. We need to finish in the bottom 2 spots to have a legit chance at a number one center like Mathews. So if Edmonton thinks they're going to out crap us they better think again. Which leads to this point, do you resign the Sedins in 2 years or let your supposed 1st line walk away, or should you not try and get something for them, please don't bring up the "No Move" clause, If you tell the Sedins we no longer see you in our plans they would give 3-4 teams they would be willing to go to. It's just simply a good buisness decision which makes your team better. Benning said that the Sedins will retire here, which will probably happen when their contracts are up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincowbasher Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Thats not so good for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Actually it's very good, Sedin's have been exemplary people for the Canucks on and off the ice and absolutely deserve to finish their career's here and retire here, eventually with their sweaters being hung on the rafters. I salute the Canucks for their professionalism with the Sedin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHoneyBadger Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 JB wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt ask them if they wanted to move to a contender at some point. If they say no, no problem. But if you dont try to get some younger players or drafts picks for them then you are not competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Quote the sedins will retire canucks as they should do...benning will keep evolving this team into a winner....it will take time...they will try and make the playoffs...the team isn't terrible...just not over a hump yet....we'll support them and see them through, like real fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 what if JB is fired for not making the playoffs? Then trading Sedins as much as I want them to stay might be a real possibly to start the rebuild. I would keep Benning for a couple more years btw Hfboards canucks will be having a parade if JB is fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 This team doesn't finish anywhere near the bottom 2. They are holding their own in the toughest conference. The tank thread already exists somewhere else thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 The rest of the division is so bad that the Canucks are going to make the playoffs by default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 19 minutes ago, captaincowbasher said: It's more apparent now then ever that our beloved Canucks are just flat out terrible............ You know what is terrible? The fans that see their team in SCF with a few wins. It loses a few and suddenly the team is terrible. We are exactly where every hockey analyst thought we'd be at this point. By the way, you might want to learn that "apparent now than ever" is correct. They say it's never too late to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 1 hour ago, captaincowbasher said: It's more apparent now then ever that our beloved Canucks are just flat out terrible. Which is ok, because the real winner will be at the draft. We need to finish in the bottom 2 spots to have a legit chance at a number one center like Mathews. So if Edmonton thinks they're going to out crap us they better think again. Which leads to this point, do you resign the Sedins in 2 years or let your supposed 1st line walk away, or should you not try and get something for them, please don't bring up the "No Move" clause, If you tell the Sedins we no longer see you in our plans they would give 3-4 teams they would be willing to go to. It's just simply a good buisness decision which makes your team better. The team on a whole isn't terrible at all. The reason the Canucks will miss the playoffs is the defense. It's barely NHL calibre. No real leaders on the backend, and no accountability from the vets either. This team needs a couple of players who truly wear their hearts on their sleeves and show anger or disappointment after a loss. Until then the lack of a killer instinct will haunt this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 You must have missed this thread a week ago where Benning went on radio and in response to a question announced that the twins would retire as Canucks: http://forum.canucks.com/topic/373106-benning-says-sedins-will-retire-as-canucks/ The only way I see them leaving is in the last year of their contract where they decide to do the organization a huge favour by approaching Trev and JB and "asking" to be moved at the deadline to a team with a chance to win the Cup so that the team could at least get something in return rather than leaving a big hole in the lineup. Realistically, given the quality people they are, a Cup with any team other than the Canucks probably wouldn't mean as much as hoisting one for the team, city and province they've come to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 38 minutes ago, Rocksterh8 said: Actually it's very good, Sedin's have been exemplary people for the Canucks on and off the ice and absolutely deserve to finish their career's here and retire here, eventually with their sweaters being hung on the rafters. I salute the Canucks for their professionalism with the Sedin's. I would cool the jets on the salute. You don't know what the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 42 minutes ago, captaincowbasher said: It's more apparent now then ever that our beloved Canucks are just flat out terrible. Which is ok, because the real winner will be at the draft. We need to finish in the bottom 2 spots to have a legit chance at a number one center like Mathews. So if Edmonton thinks they're going to out crap us they better think again. Which leads to this point, do you resign the Sedins in 2 years or let your supposed 1st line walk away, or should you not try and get something for them, please don't bring up the "No Move" clause, If you tell the Sedins we no longer see you in our plans they would give 3-4 teams they would be willing to go to. It's just simply a good buisness decision which makes your team better. Huh? Middle of the league: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/league 4th in the division 2 points out of second....: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/division We've got different definitions of terrible. Losing endless 1 goal games does not make a team terrible. Drafting 1st overall in 5 of 7 years does. Missing the playoffs for a decade does. making the playoffs once in 10 years and then losing game 7 after holding a 3 goal lead makes you terrible. Maybe it's just me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 November 26th is American Thanksgiving. Where-ever we are in the standings on this date is usually indicative of where we will finish the season. We have 3 games to get into a Playoff spot by then. As of right now, Chicago would take the final spot and we would be barely missing out. It looks like only 3 teams from the Pacific Division will make it in this year. We could wind up on either side of the line. Let's hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 36 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Huh? Middle of the league: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/league 4th in the division 2 points out of second....: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/division We've got different definitions of terrible. Losing endless 1 goal games does not make a team terrible. Drafting 1st overall in 5 of 7 years does. Missing the playoffs for a decade does. making the playoffs once in 10 years and then losing game 7 after holding a 3 goal lead makes you terrible. Maybe it's just me though If I may...you gotta watch the games, bro. They are not good enough and it's more apparent than ever. If there was ever a year to tank, it's this one. Not because of the players available, but because we don't have a replacement for Henrik in the system. AT ALL! Bo or Jared are maybes at this point, but do we wanna end up like Edmonton and have no one mentor the next wave of talent coming in and show them how to be a professional? Or do we want the Sedins to ease the transition so that when they are gone in two years, a player like Auston Matthews is ready to take the reins? I want the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 The Sedin's signed their last contract with the intention of it being their last in the NHL period, and Benning's gone on record of saying that they will retire here. So they're not getting moved. If the play outside of Vancouver, it's going to be in Sweden. They'll be Canucks the whole way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 5 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: If I may...you gotta watch the games, bro. They are not good enough and it's more apparent than ever. If there was ever a year to tank, it's this one. Not because of the players available, but because we don't have a replacement for Henrik in the system. AT ALL! Bo or Jared are maybes at this point, but do we wanna end up like Edmonton and have no one mentor the next wave of talent coming in and show them how to be a professional? Or do we want the Sedins to ease the transition so that when they are gone in two years, a player like Auston Matthews is ready to take the reins? I want the latter. We're not going to tank... We're going to win or lose based on our roster. We're to good to tank but not good enough for the playoffs. That's the meat of it. And the possibility still exists that Lindenning might actually rent or purchase players for a playoff push as per rumoured owners MO We'll draft between 9-10 and hopefully pick up a Fabbro or someone similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 6 minutes ago, HC20.0 said: The Sedin's signed their last contract with the intention of it being their last in the NHL period, and Benning's gone on record of saying that they will retire here. So they're not getting moved. If the play outside of Vancouver, it's going to be in Sweden. They'll be Canucks the whole way through. Gms say alot of things. Bowman:saad is going to win alot more cups with chicago. Traded a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 58 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Huh? Middle of the league: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/league 4th in the division 2 points out of second....: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/division We've got different definitions of terrible. Losing endless 1 goal games does not make a team terrible. Drafting 1st overall in 5 of 7 years does. Missing the playoffs for a decade does. making the playoffs once in 10 years and then losing game 7 after holding a 3 goal lead makes you terrible. Maybe it's just me though My thoughts exactly. First losing streak of the season and its the "tanksters" out in full force. If we were getting blown out in games then maybe there would be some concern but most losses have been by 1 goal so we ARE competing. I see the injuries being the main reason for recent losses. Nice to have Sbisa back and Weber out but it will be a lot better once Sutter returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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