PhillipBlunt Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: 6 points in 13 games at a +4 ... he has turned the corner, no? Yes he has. He is a large, aggressive, tough defenseman. Something the Canucks don't have. At all. Unless Benning goes out and trades for Hamonic and Schenn, Benning has to look to Pedan for some real deterrence. Dorsett isn't scaring anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 He's looked good in Utica and we need a call-up with Sbisa and Hutton both day-to-day. I'd rather give Pedan a shot than see Weber struggle in front of our net. Panarin and Kane are going to destroy whoever we have on defence, but at least Pedan is physical enough to try and contain them. Weber and Bartkowski would get absolutely embarassed by those skilled guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: He's looked good in Utica and we need a call-up with Sbisa and Hutton both day-to-day. I'd rather give Pedan a shot than see Weber struggle in front of our net. Panarin and Kane are going to destroy whoever we have on defence, but at least Pedan is physical enough to try and contain them. Weber and Bartkowski would get absolutely embarassed by those skilled guys. ..really wish there was a link to watch the Comets games.. Even if it was a delay! Theres too much interest in the Nucks farm team for this not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 1 hour ago, SilentSam said: 6 points in 13 games at a +4 ... he has turned the corner, no? Scoring-wise, .4ppg is about what he averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 10 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Scoring-wise, .4ppg is about what he averages. Not bad for a D man whose game is more physically rounded.. Anything above 20 points is an extra asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The team has probably close to no cap space - when Markstrom went down they had to put Higgins on LTIR to create cap room to call up Bachman because they were at less than 200K at the start of the season. Maybe now that they are close to being back at 14F they will move at least one to have some flexibility to bring up players. Pedan, Grenier, Kenins, Jensen are all waiver eligible next year so I would think they'd get a few games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 2 hours ago, mll said: The team has probably close to no cap space - when Markstrom went down they had to put Higgins on LTIR to create cap room to call up Bachman because they were at less than 200K at the start of the season. Maybe now that they are close to being back at 14F they will move at least one to have some flexibility to bring up players. Pedan, Grenier, Kenins, Jensen are all waiver eligible next year so I would think they'd get a few games this season. Sharing knowledge is much appreciated. Thank you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 13 hours ago, SilentSam said: Our only game "Presence" falls to the hands of Dorsett and Prust. This is unfair to them. Its a silver line and game changer that shines through teams like Winnipeg, Boston, Chicago, New Jersey, even the Leafs as a team can shift into a more physical presence than what we can. its an opportunity.. Physicality is one part of Pedan's game,. He brings it. Pedan deserves it. You are bang on here. Prust's absence has been more detrimental than anybody realizes. The opposing teams do not seem intimidated by Dorsett. This also has to have an effect on the team as well as they appear to play a little more tentative and less confident against the bigger tougher teams of late. Also we had replaced Sbisa with Weber which did not exactly improve our toughness at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 7 minutes ago, EdgarM said: You are bang on here. Prust's absence has been more detrimental than anybody realizes. The opposing teams do not seem intimidated by Dorsett. This also has to have an effect on the team as well as they appear to play a little more tentative and less confident against the bigger tougher teams of late. Also we had replaced Sbisa with Weber which did not exactly improve our toughness at all. Yup. A lot of our guys got a little softer and smaller with those two out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This team did not solve the grit issue with Dorsett. He's too small to act as a deterrent. And while Prust is tough, he's 31 and will probably only be here for this season. It would be nice to have some serious size on the team that provides pushback. Edler, being the biggest defensemen, should provide it, but clearly doesn't. Sbisa doesn't relish fighting, and the rest of the defense is to busy chasing the play to provide any grit, outside of the occasional Barftowski hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 5 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: This team did not solve the grit issue with Dorsett. He's too small to act as a deterrent. And while Prust is tough, he's 31 and will probably only be here for this season. It would be nice to have some serious size on the team that provides pushback. Edler, being the biggest defensemen, should provide it, but clearly doesn't. Sbisa doesn't relish fighting, and the rest of the defense is to busy chasing the play to provide any grit, outside of the occasional Barftowski hit. If we can sign Prust,. Next year we will have every weight category covered. Dorsett, Prust, Pedan &Tryamkin ("The Russian Bears") pedan sure would look good tonight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Last night was a perfect example of a team that has some toughness. I am liking that Sbisa has gone back to delivering those big hits. The team seems to play with a bit of swagger and confidence when the toughness element is present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think getting Pedan time in the NHL is a must this year and hopefully he flourishes. It would just be an easier transition for a guy like Tryamkin who would be coming over soon hopefully or luring a guy like the rumoured Nikita Zaitsev over with having a North American adapted Russian on the team. It wouldn't even really be a stretch calling Pedan up given his play and size in the AHL thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: I think getting Pedan time in the NHL is a must this year and hopefully he flourishes. It would just be an easier transition for a guy like Tryamkin who would be coming over soon hopefully or luring a guy like the rumoured Nikita Zaitsev over with having a North American adapted Russian on the team. It wouldn't even really be a stretch calling Pedan up given his play and size in the AHL thus far. Zaitsev won't be signing with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 36 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Zaitsev won't be signing with the Canucks. Why not, and who is he anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 34 minutes ago, TheHitman said: Zaitsev won't be signing with the Canucks. The Canucks are rumoured to be interested and have 3 spots on defence opening up for next year. If they really like what they see giving guaranteed NHL ice time and some Russian influence I'd say they have a small chance of signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Why not, and who is he anyway? He's one of the top offensive dmen in the KHL at 24 years old. Reportedly wants to play in the NHL next year and was undrafted so anybody can sign him. Has strong ties to the Maple Leafs who are the current favourites to land him. However a good pitch of ice time and incoming Russian players in Pedan and Tryamkin could sway in his mind one would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 3 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: He's one of the top offensive dmen in the KHL at 24 years old. Reportedly wants to play in the NHL next year and was undrafted so anybody can sign him. Has strong ties to the Maple Leafs who are the current favourites to land him. However a good pitch of ice time and incoming Russian players in Pedan and Tryamkin could sway in his mind one would think. Is he a lefty or a righty? I'm guessing lefty, because it seems almost all top Russians are lefties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Is he a lefty or a righty? I'm guessing lefty, because it seems almost all top Russians are lefties. He shoots right and I believe he's about 6'1 and about 180 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 On 11/20/2015, 4:39:49, RonMexico said: Just leave him in Utica for now. I would rather have Biega in the lineup. We know what he brings to the table and the Canucks do not need anymore question marks. But but... I thought you said we have an AHL defense? So wouldn't trying out other AHL defense to see if they fit actually help out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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