riffraff Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 11 hours ago, RRypien37 said: Prust and Dorsett have done great. The problem is they are limited to 4th line roles. We have zero toughness in the top 6 and one semi tough D in Sbisa. This has been an issue for many years. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 16 hours ago, EdgarM said: So, I have been thinking of Sbisa's latest big hits and where he had to fight with I think Winnipeg's Peluso afterwards. I am thinking that one of Prust or Dorsett should have showed some support for Sbisa. The same with Virtanen when he is throwing some killer checks and has to answer to whoever after the whistle. My feeling is that our tough guys should be providing a little push back and support for our younger players. Thoughts? The reality for Sbisa in that Winnipeg game is that if you take a run at the other team's young guy, you can almost guarantee someone has your number in their sights. Luckily, Virtanen is one of the few rookies who can probably handle himself against NHL veterans in the physicality department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Did anyone else see Ed Willes' paragraph about the Sbisa scrap? I'm with him, definetly should have been an instigator to Peluso, also agree the refs should have been quicker getting in there. Sub Question. When did good clean hits become an excuse to scrap someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 2 hours ago, luckylager said: There were 4 other players on the ice. Coaches get mad. Are we talking about TEAM toughness? But when you are talking about 'throwing fists', if the sedins happen to be on the ice at the time, what are you going to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 We will need more tough D in the future, having Virt, Sbisa and Vancouver PD isn't terrible, but the best tough guy is a great pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 36 minutes ago, homersexual said: But when you are talking about 'throwing fists', if the sedins happen to be on the ice at the time, what are you going to do? All four Sedin's on the ice with McCann? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 19 hours ago, meh_wassup said: Team toughness doesn't come from just 2 players providing push back, it comes from the whole team. The mentality of the whole team should be you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us... not just Dorsett and Prust. We're missing a few of these guys. (Lucic, Byfuglien, Burns, Pardy, Engelland,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 1 hour ago, gurn said: Did anyone else see Ed Willes' paragraph about the Sbisa scrap? I'm with him, definetly should have been an instigator to Peluso, also agree the refs should have been quicker getting in there. Sub Question. When did good clean hits become an excuse to scrap someone? When they got rid of Sestito's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 2 hours ago, luckylager said: All four Sedin's on the ice with McCann? Interesting... What are you talking about? Tell me who was on the ice when McCann got hit and tell me who you wanted to throw punches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 23 minutes ago, homersexual said: What are you talking about? Tell me who was on the ice when McCann got hit and tell me who you wanted to throw punches? Lmao! Are you banging your hands on a table? Tough guy, your writing voice is that of a small angry lawyer. Are you of the opinion the team doesn't lack toughness? Because any one of Hansen, Hammer, Bartkowski or even Daniel should have at least taken a swipe at Larsson. But no, nothing.. Skating around, lalala, guess 5 and a game is okay. Weak sauce. Maybe Larsson looked around and saw 5 guys with no push back all on the ice at the same time. Perfect opportunity to lay a cheap shot... Willy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Prust did not play in the Jets game when Sbisa went at it with Peluso...Prust (and Sbisa) were sorely missed on that 7 game road trip......You don't really notice how important these players are ,until they are out of the lineup.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 4 minutes ago, luckylager said: Lmao! Are you banging your hands on a table? Tough guy, your writing voice is that of a small angry lawyer. Are you of the opinion the team doesn't lack toughness? Because any one of Hansen, Hammer, Bartkowski or even Daniel should have at least taken a swipe at Larsson. But no, nothing.. Skating around, lalala, guess 5 and a game is okay. Weak sauce. Maybe Larsson looked around and saw 5 guys with no push back all on the ice at the same time. Perfect opportunity to lay a cheap shot... Willy... I agree that we need toughness from our guys, where even the Twins stand up for their teammates. And you're right too; it's a lot easier to be tough when there as an even tougher guy watching your back. Toughness works it way down the lineup from the most tough guy to the least tough guy - the lawyer type you point out. Even the lawyer type players - Higgins - can be tough with a Lucic beside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 14 minutes ago, Alflives said: I agree that we need toughness from our guys, where even the Twins stand up for their teammates. And you're right too; it's a lot easier to be tough when there as an even tougher guy watching your back. Toughness works it way down the lineup from the most tough guy to the least tough guy - the lawyer type you point out. Even the lawyer type players - Higgins - can be tough with a Lucic beside him. Exactly. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 4 hours ago, luckylager said: Lmao! Are you banging your hands on a table? Tough guy, your writing voice is that of a small angry lawyer. Are you of the opinion the team doesn't lack toughness? Because any one of Hansen, Hammer, Bartkowski or even Daniel should have at least taken a swipe at Larsson. But no, nothing.. Skating around, lalala, guess 5 and a game is okay. Weak sauce. Maybe Larsson looked around and saw 5 guys with no push back all on the ice at the same time. Perfect opportunity to lay a cheap shot... Willy... No, I'm throwing punches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, homersexual said: No, I'm throwing punches? I thought you would be more of a slapper - scratching the eyes kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, Alflives said: I thought you would be more of a slapper - scratching the eyes kind of guy. Eye scratching is tough nowadays with everyone wearing visors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, homersexual said: Eye scratching is tough nowadays with everyone wearing visors. Ya, those things are real nail breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 2 hours ago, homersexual said: No, I'm throwing punches? They hurt wicked bad too. I'm just gonna skate to the bench with my head down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 10 hours ago, aliboy said: We will need more tough D in the future, having Virt, Sbisa and Vancouver PD isn't terrible, but the best tough guy is a great pp. What do you do when they don't call any penalties? Like in the playoffs for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Benning will solve the team toughness, once and for all, this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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