19naslund19 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I am not trying to be doom and gloom, I think this clarity is a great thing for the direction of the team and the way things now should solidify the argument to ownership. 23rd in the league - with 4/7 teams below us having games in hand 5th in Division - with 5/6 teams within division having games in hand Prior to yesterdays loss a 12% chance of making playoffs according to hockeyviz (a respected predictions site/machine) http://hockeyviz.com/img/league/makePlayoffs/1516/makePlayoffs-conf-West.png I do love the Canucks and the kids have done well, but I think its time to sell the UFA assets through February and really complete the rebuild for this season. Hammer, Vrby, Prust, Weber, Bartkowski will have different levels of return, but I think its time to focus on prospects/draft picks. I am very positive on the 15/16 year and the future, but I think its finally time (and should be clear) this is the best path for the rest of the season...thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The time(to sell vets) was probably Feb 2015, but better late than never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 At 50 games in now, it tells us what this team is right now and the only reason they are even remotely talking about play off's is because of the very poor division. It is clearly time to move the FA guys and get the extra picks that we know JB can do so much with to help this team in the future. Let the young guys gain experience the rest of this year, if they somehow manage to make the play off's great, but it's more about the experience at this point. Jim - make it so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Dramatic squirrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 March will tell us really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 We have 32 games remaining all against western teams, most are fighting for the same playoff position 19 home games and 13 road games remain. We have 51 points and because we have the worst ROW we would need a minimum of 93 points to squeak into the final wildcard spot to play LA Kings in the 1st round To get those 42 points to get to that 93 points we would need to go at minimum, 14 wins and 5 losses at home and 7 wins and 6 losses on the road The good news is that if we can post better #'s than these we will be on a great roll coming into the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19naslund19 Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: We have 32 games remaining all against western teams, most are fighting for the same playoff position 19 home games and 13 road games remain. We have 51 points and because we have the worst ROW we would need a minimum of 93 points to squeak into the final wildcard spot to play LA Kings in the 1st round To get to that 93 points we would need to go at minimum,14 wins and 5 losses at home and 7 wins and 6 losses on the road The good news is that if we can post better #'s than these we will be on a great roll coming into the playoffs Agreed we do have a good schedule... But is this what we want? To squeak in against the Kings? Sorry but I think this "grey area" of not bad enough to sell and get better draft pick, and losing in the first round was detrimental to the Canucks after the Stanley Cup run...very little in cupboard in term sof future. This has changed in the last couple years yes, but we are on the cusp of really changing this team (not saying we are going to be a powerhouse, but maybe haha). If we really embrace the rebuild, get some picks/prospects for UFA's we are likely going to lose, solidify a top 7 pick (hopefully top 5) this team will be well stocked for the future, have cash for the FA market if needed, and be poised for better things as quickly as next season. I am not saying tank...but I wouldn't be against it...but really we are not that good a team and just getting into the playoffs this year should not be the goal. It should be to get the kids experience and embrace the rebuild fully. This is some of the the grey area I talk about "Saddness Chart"...we do not want to be here. http://hockeyviz.com/img/league/recentPredictive/1516/sadness.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 No death knell until about February 20th. If we lose against the leafs, the Jackets, Yotes and the Flames that is it. From here on out the bulk of our games are staying in the west and mostly against teams currently higher in the standings than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Well, that remains to be seen. The Winnipeg game was the deathblow in the lost season of 13/14 (an argument could be made for CGY as well). We'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, Odd. said: March will tell us really. March is too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The death blow to this season was the home opener in Oct - was it the Flames. Our team was never going to compete for the cup this year. We all knew that we were in a dog fight for 8th place - the final playoff berth. True is that our club is right we dreamed to be. This season was all about selling at the deadline. Our current team is full of holes. They have achieved about where they should have. We are in the bottom 10 teams in the league. More losses along the way are nothing to get concerned about. Play the kids, sell the vets. Rebuilds are painful. No pain , no gain. Suck it up Canucks fan. Keep Selling even while the losses pile up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Great loss, entertaining game to watch and we get closer to the 1st overall pick. Good strategy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Make a deal with Montreal for Mccarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Too early to count this group out, and a lot of judgement on one game. Remember that guy named Henrick Sedin, who gets back after the All-star break. The lineup will be 100% once Hamhuis is back as well, and trades are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Virtanen has not impressed me much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 minute ago, mpt said: Great loss, entertaining game to watch and we get closer to the 1st overall pick. Good strategy to me Am I a bad person for being OK with these losses then excitedly checking the out of town scores to see if any of the teams below us won? And before anybody gets their knickers in a knot, I'm not a tank nation card carrying member. I'm cheering on my team, but I am also a believer that what's best for the organization long term is proper asset management of expiring contracts. If moving guys down the stretch results in missing the playoffs this season, then so be it. I don't need the instant gratification that comes with simply making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Canucks Mantra - January 2016...."we're trying to squeak into the last spot so L.A. can pound the daylights out of us for 4 games". Sounds like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, 19naslund19 said: I am not trying to be doom and gloom, I think this clarity is a great thing for the direction of the team and the way things now should solidify the argument to ownership. 23rd in the league - with 4/7 teams below us having games in hand 5th in Division - with 5/6 teams within division having games in hand Prior to yesterdays loss a 12% chance of making playoffs according to hockeyviz (a respected predictions site/machine) http://hockeyviz.com/img/league/makePlayoffs/1516/makePlayoffs-conf-West.png I do love the Canucks and the kids have done well, but I think its time to sell the UFA assets through February and really complete the rebuild for this season. Hammer, Vrby, Prust, Weber, Bartkowski will have different levels of return, but I think its time to focus on prospects/draft picks. I am very positive on the 15/16 year and the future, but I think its finally time (and should be clear) this is the best path for the rest of the season...thoughts? I couldn't care less about wins and losses this season, what I want to see is the youth movement going forward and the overall compete level come up. With that as my standard, I would say this season (minus a stretch in there) has been successful. i'm enjoying watching the young guys start to grab control of the team from the vets and watch the team work hard and use their speed every shift. It'll be interesting to see if JB makes any big moves at the dl.......he may just wait until the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The Canucks currently have 1 more win than dead-last CBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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