Piggy Bank Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I ran the draft lottery simulator: Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOW - This is my ideal pre-draft and draft day results. We deadline day moved Vrbata to Montreal and retained a % of his cap, for a first round pick. However, he remains stagnant and they don't turn the season around. Therefore, we end up with the 7th overall pick as well. (They are 6-18-1 in the last 25, who knows how bad it gets). We deadline day moved Hamhuis to Dallas for a first round pick - it will be late - Hamhuis is an olympian and SCF runner up. He is still exceptional, has the experience, and aside from a poor start of the season he will have lots of energy to provide and experience, making him a valuable asset for playoff teams. We end up with the 27th overall pick as well. Come the drafting: 1) Toronto does not hesitate and takes Matthews - setting the future core with Nylander Marner Kapanen Matthews and maybe Stamkos. 2) We, Vancouver, do not hesitate to take either Patrick Laine or Jesse Puljujarvi. ***We have a trade to announce*** The Ottawa Senators trade the 3rd overall pick to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for the 7th overall pick and Alex Edler. 3) The Vancouver Canucks follow up with whom they did not take of either Patrick Laine or Jesse Puljujarvi Similar to how we acquired the Sedin's at 2 and 3, but with Benning not Burke, we get 2 monstrous power forwards with every skill the game has: Speed, Strength, Handles, Shot, IQ, Defensive, Size With the $15 Million in cap space following the loss of Hammer Vrb and Edler and re-signing of Biega Bartkowski Baertschi Etem Vey, Benning moves onto the free agency frenzy. Benning tries to sign: Kris Russell @ 5.5 Million per, for 5 years. Andrew Ladd @ 6-7 Million per, for 5 years. Luke Schenn @ 2 Million per, for 3 years. Canucks enter 2016-17 with their drafted acquisitions in AHL. A few call ups here and there. 2017-18 looks like this. Sutter Horvat Ladd Sedin's Virtanen Laine McCann Puljujarvi Gaunce Zalewski Hansen Etem Russel Tanev Hutton Biega Schenn Sbisa Bartkowski Markstrom Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Absolutely no chance that Montreal does not protect that pick if they deal it. Besides with the season he has had its unlikely anyone offers a 1st for him. Sorry to break the bubble, but I doubt we will ever see anyone pull off what Burke did that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I love the image of that 2017-18 side, but realistically, it's a pipe dream. - As Toews says above, if Montreal is dealing a pick, they're going to protect it, unless we added something else to the deal (like our second). - I don't think Hamhuis gets us a 1st. He's not the Hamhuis of 2009-14. I'd be happy with a 2nd rounder for him, but would rather we re-sign him. - I really don't think we end up with 2nd overall; if we do, we should draft Puljujarvi. - I hate the acquisition of Russell, even at $2m, never mind $5.5m. I'd rather look at Goligoski, Campbell, Yandle and Mitchell. Main reason: that D has about 6 goals per season in it, combined. Plus, as we all know, Edmonton wins the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 wow never going to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Can we just cut to the chase and make a pipe dream thread? Or a hits from the bong thread in this case. What a waste of my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Signing Russell to a 5.5 million a year deal would be a mistake IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 No Shink or Grenier? Man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 That defense...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Ideally we get two picks in the top 10 and are able to take Pulijaarvi/Tkachuk and Juolevi so we can shore up both the offense and defense. Top 5 picks are going to take a LOT to pry off of teams, so if we're going to get one it's going to have to be because we tanked ourselves imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Give you credit for creativity, but absolutely do NOT want any of your suggested UFAs. Also, pretty much zero chance Edler waives to go to Ottawa imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Tig'ol Bitties said: Ideally we get two picks in the top 10 and are able to take Pulijaarvi/Tkachuk and Juolevi so we can shore up both the offense and defense. Top 5 picks are going to take a LOT to pry off of teams, so if we're going to get one it's going to have to be because we tanked ourselves imo. Absolutely. We have our own top five pick, and we get some one like Montreal's first rounder too. Then they miss the playoffs, and we get lucky with the lotto and steal a top three. . Then JB, being an arrogant Sod farmer, trades the third overall pick for the 15 and 17 picks, and the cycle of mediocracy continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Not worth giving Eddie up for that little (just to move up 4 spots). Also, the only puck-moving/ offense from that back-end group would be from Hutton, and what if he has a sophomore slump? Russell is defensively-oriented, as are Tanev, Schenn and Sbisa. Also, Kris and Chris will get pushed around as Kris is only 5'10", while Chris is no giant himself. Eddie has 5 inches and 40 lbs on Kris, and with him moved that has to be the lightest D pairing in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Ottawa is close enough to the show that you might be able to get their first for Edler right now with a small plus coming back. Edler for Englund and Ott 2016 1rst (lottery protected). That pick could be anywhere from 8-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Bergevin would be publicly tarred and feathered, set on fire, and dragged through the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I think there are 3 options for us on Draft day (assuming we get 2 1sts from Vrbata and Hamhuis). Our pick would be around 8th overall, while our 2 acquired picks would be around 20-25. 1) Trade all 3 picks plus one of Shinkaurik/Boeser for a top-3 pick. This gets us one of Laine or Pulujaarvi, assuming we trade for 3rd overall. If we get 2nd and we have to choose, I would take Laine. This eliminates our chances for a defenseman in the 1st round, but we end up with a future star player who can step in next year and be the face of the youth movement. Laine/Pulujaarvi is a HUGE upgrade over Boeser/Shinkaurik, and it would be worth losing a couple other 1sts. We have the rest of the Draft to focus solely on defenseman. 2) We trade our 2 later 1sts plus Pedan to move up into the top-14 again and get another good player. This gives us the flexibility to take 2 defenseman, a forward then a defenseman or a defenseman then a forward. We get 2 good players before the drop off at 15, with at least one of them being a defenseman. 3) We hold on to our picks and make 3 selections in the 1st round. We take at minimum 1 defenseman. We get one good shot in the top-15, and then 2 Hail Mary's. Personally, I think we should be trying to do whatever it takes to get into the top-3. If we have to add more to my proposal then do it. Obviously, we can't gut our entire team, but it's something we should really look at. Honestly, I would trade our entire draft minus the 2nd and 3rd round with a bit more to get into the top-3. Getting a talent like that would be amazing for our organization both on and off the ice. We could have lines like this next year: Sedin - Sedin - Sutter Baertschi - Horvat - Laine/Pulujaarvi Burrows - McCann - Virtanen Gaunce - Cracknell - Hansen Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - UFA Hutton - Sbisa It would be worth it to move up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thats a pretty steep price! As much as I'd like the big three I'd prefer option 3 or 2. There are some really great picks to be had at the back of the first round. I mean option one could be Laine for Sergachyov, Green, Laberge, Shinkaruk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: Bergevin would be publicly tarred and feathered, set on fire, and dragged through the streets. You gotta love those Frenchies.. And just when I thought poutin was the ultimate combination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Mtl wouldn't make that trade (Vrb) without protection, and even then... I don't think Bergevin would do it. If Dallas would (Hammer)...hells ya! But, I want him back next year, our D is weak (to be nice) and I hope he resign here. There are a lot of CDC dissing that guy, but you're all wrong, Hammer is awesome (and having a really bad year). EDLER WON'T WAIVE. Why no mention of what to do with all of our prospects and RFA's, did we let them walk so we could pick up UFA's when this team's all about building in a youth movement? You'd think Gaunce, Shink, Grenier and Pedan should be on their way for next year or moved in trade packages. Those guys are due for something. And then there's Cassels... dude could pull a Horvat....if we're really lucky. I hope we see some movement TDL so we can have a little more insight into which of the prospects they see sticking around, and hopefully get a good pick for Vrb in the process. We need young D, badly. Really .. real bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 4 hours ago, flickyoursedin said: Thats a pretty steep price! As much as I'd like the big three I'd prefer option 3 or 2. There are some really great picks to be had at the back of the first round. I mean option one could be Laine for Sergachyov, Green, Laberge, Shinkaruk. It is a steep price. We could lose out on all those players you mentioned. I, however, think it would be a franchise defining move if we secured traded into a top-3 spot this year with the top-3 looking as elite as it is. I think it would be more beneficial to us than taking 2 other players. I love Sergachyov, I think he is a top-5 talent in the Draft, but if we have any sort of chance to move up, I would do it. The thought of putting one of the Finns with Horvat is too good to pass up. We still have all our picks from rounds 2-7 to use on defenseman. I actually really liked Day's performance at the prospects game. I would love to take a gamble on him in the second round. If he puts it all together, which he very well could with Green and Desjardains, he could be a #1 defenseman. Of course, if we end up selecting 3 players in the 1st round I won't be complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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