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The super delegates don't really matter. They can switch their votes whenever and the majority change to the real winning candidate.

Bernie is running a solid campaign. He's funding videos like this, while Hillary is out collecting endorsements from Black politicians in return for favours. She has pretty much the entire Democratic machine behind her, including Obama. Would be great to see the look on the faces of these sellouts if Bernie manages to win.

 

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I'm actually watching this debate and pretty much don't know how you couldn't vote for Sanders.

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30 minutes ago, inane said:

I'm actually watching this debate and pretty much don't know how you couldn't vote for Sanders.

you can't support Bernie because "insert republican strawman here."

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3 hours ago, Mustapha said:

There are other factors, including the US' relationship with the Soviets, and public opinion denouncing communism.

In the 1930's, there was a lot of support for unions and workers rights, even here in Canada communist ideology spread like wildfire. 

Conservatives have been swayed by socialist programs in decades past,  look no further than our own ' Greatest Canadian' : Tommy Douglas.

Post WW2, Roosevelt might have pursued the programs he endorsed in West Germany Europe and Japan...but we will never know, because he died before the end of the war.

Not sure how segregation is involved,  by social programs i mean universal healthcare, subsidized education, workers'  rights and support for unions.

Racial equality is a different discussion. 

Tommy Douglas was  NDP, not Conservative.

In the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, and 1950's North American society was very conservative.  Women stayed at home, pre-marital sex was frowned about, no such thing as gay rights.  I only pointed out segregation as a sign of conservative values predominate in that era.  

In that conservative era there was no great demand for more social programs.  That came as a progression through latter decades.

There was no great divide between Democrats and Republicans as we see today.  Politicians from both parties were pretty much right wing.  

As for Roosevelt, he already elected to a 4th term,  Doubtful if he get a fifth term since there was opposition to him running so many times.   Also, the US had no money for additional social programs due to the enormous cost of WWII.

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1 hour ago, inane said:

I'm actually watching this debate and pretty much don't know how you couldn't vote for Sanders.

Of course you would say that. But the U.s people and Canadians for that matter don't seem to share your social democrat views.

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4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Of course you would say that. But the U.s people and Canadians for that matter don't seem to share your social democrat views.

uh, ok?

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15 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Of course you would say that. But the U.s people and Canadians for that matter don't seem to share your social democrat views.

yup. Bernie not electable in the general election, unless he pivots to the center (relative for US). The only thing he is conservative is his pro gun stance. No way americans will elect a socialist.

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I don't care for either candidate who won, and I hope that Trump does not get the nod.  I already know who I want to vote for.  One has a really good chance of getting the nod.

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2 hours ago, Jaimito said:

yup. Bernie not electable in the general election, unless he pivots to the center (relative for US). The only thing he is conservative is his pro gun stance. No way americans will elect a socialist.

Trump will probably be the Republican nominee. Bernie is beating him in national polls by double digits. Do you think Americans will elect Trump?

Bernie doesn't need to pivot anywhere. He's been saying the same stuff for 40 years. On the other hand, you have Hillary changing positions on a weekly basis according to polls. She's now trying to co-opt Bernie's getting money out of politics message even though she's getting millions of dollars in personal and campaign money from banks, pharmaceutical companies, for-profit prisons, etc.

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7 hours ago, Jaimito said:

yup. Bernie not electable in the general election, unless he pivots to the center (relative for US). The only thing he is conservative is his pro gun stance. No way americans will elect a socialist.

Polls say otherwise.  Hillary loses against rubio, ties cruz and beats trump but bernie beats all three handily.

He draws more independents and conservatives than hillary does.

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26 minutes ago, The Bookie said:

AWESOME Photo of the earth here

LMAO worth the report

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5 hours ago, Jimayo said:

Polls say otherwise.  Hillary loses against rubio, ties cruz and beats trump but bernie beats all three handily.

He draws more independents and conservatives than hillary does.

Polls this far out for general election doesn't mean anything,  once it is a two horse race, sure. Bernie doesn't have the southern votes, will have to see how the blacks support him or not in the up coming primaries.  I don't think it will be as close like Obama v Clinton in 2008.

 

10 hours ago, M A K A V E L I 96 said:

Trump will probably be the Republican nominee. Bernie is beating him in national polls by double digits. Do you think Americans will elect Trump?

Bernie doesn't need to pivot anywhere. He's been saying the same stuff for 40 years. On the other hand, you have Hillary changing positions on a weekly basis according to polls. She's now trying to co-opt Bernie's getting money out of politics message even though she's getting millions of dollars in personal and campaign money from banks, pharmaceutical companies, for-profit prisons, etc.

    trump wont necessary win the GOP nominee, but he can pivot easily to the middle since he was a democrat supporter not too long ago.  don't be surprised if he gets elected, this is the same country that elected g w Bush twice. 

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8 minutes ago, Jaimito said:

Polls this far out for general election doesn't mean anything,  once it is a two horse race, sure. Bernie doesn't have the southern votes, will have to see how the blacks support him or not in the up coming primaries.  I don't think it will be as close like Obama v Clinton in 2008.

 

    trump wont necessary win the GOP nominee, but he can pivot easily to the middle since he was a democrat supporter not too long ago.  don't be surprised if he gets elected, this is the same country that elected g w Bush twice. 

'the blacks'? 

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5 hours ago, inane said:

'the blacks'? 

Relax. Anyway, he might not get enough of their vote considering some of the outspoken in that community are calling Bernie "dismissive and disrespectful" because he doesn't always buff Obama's rod. We'll see if these people are stupid enough to bite because it's sad some of their leaders have sold out to Hilary.

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4 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said:

Relax. Anyway, he might not get enough of their vote considering some of the outspoken in that community are calling Bernie "dismissive and disrespectful" because he doesn't always buff Obama's rod. We'll see if these people are stupid enough to bite because it's sad some of their leaders have sold out to Hilary.

Casual racism is fun.

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Just now, Tortorella's Rant said:

Life must be hard thinking everything is racist all the time

Yeah, you've nailed it. I do think everything is racist all the time. What an astute observation.

Or maybe, and I'm just spit balling here, it's your casual implication that an entire race of people would vote one way or the other. 'These people' as you so delicately put, don't exist. It's just your simplistic, meaningless mass stereotype. 

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17 minutes ago, inane said:

Yeah, you've nailed it. I do think everything is racist all the time. What an astute observation.

Or maybe, and I'm just spit balling here, it's your casual implication that an entire race of people would vote one way or the other. 'These people' as you so delicately put, don't exist. It's just your simplistic, meaningless mass stereotype. 

So...is "the black congress" racist?

 

"Black history month"

 

While I agree it's a grating term it is far from racist.  And I've suffered some ugly racism in my life.  Some people do not like being referred to as the "minority vote"  or "minorities" 

 

it happens.  Just think of what they would have called it 40 years ago and you'll feel better

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Just now, Warhippy said:

So...is "the black congress" racist?

 

"Black history month"

 

While I agree it's a grating term it is far from racist.  And I've suffered some ugly racism in my life.  Some people do not like being referred to as the "minority vote"  or "minorities" 

 

it happens.  Just think of what they would have called it 40 years ago and you'll feel better

The word black isn't the issue, it's lumping an entire group into some mass stereotype. That's just lazy and ignorant.

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