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25 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

This is comical in such a dark and sad way.

 

6 people have died from vaping related illness and there is a national outcry and senate/president proposing banning vaping, promising to get it done.

 

As of Sept 1st, the 244th day of the year, there were 283 mass shootings in the USA. A mass shooting is defined as an event in which 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter.

 

Somethings tells me that the priorities are a little skewed.....

It's real simple. It's not a surprise to anyone who knows anything about how US politics works

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Let me start off by saying this will be a good thing, if Trump actually follows through with it:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/trump-flirts-with-dollar15-billion-bailout-for-iran-sources-say/ar-AAH9Tgd?li=AAggFp5

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President Donald Trump has left the impression with foreign officials, members of his administration, and others involved in Iranian negotiations that he is actively considering a French plan to extend a $15 billion credit line to the Iranians if Tehran comes back into compliance with the Obama-eranuclear deal.

 

Trump has in recent weeks shown openness to entertaining President Emmanuel Macron’s plan, according to four sources with knowledge of Trump’s conversations with the French leader. Two of those sources said that State Department officials, including Secretary Mike Pompeo, are also open to weighing the French proposal, which would effectively ease the economic sanctions regime that the Trump administration has applied on Tehran for more than a year.

 

The deal put forth by France would compensate Iran for oil sales disrupted by American sanctions. A large portion of Iran’s economy relies on cash from oil sales. Most of that money is frozen in bank accounts across the globe. The $15 billion credit line would be guaranteed by Iranian oil. In exchange for the cash, Iran would have to come back into compliance with the nuclear accord it signed with the world’s major powers in 2015. Tehran would also have to agree not to threaten the security of the Persian Gulf or to impede maritime navigation in the area. Lastly, Tehran would have to commit to regional Middle East talks in the future.

 

While Trump has been skeptical of helping Iran without preconditions, In public, the president has in public at least hinted at an openness to considering Macron’s pitch for placating the Iranian government—a move intended to help bring the Iranians to the negotiating table and to rescue the nuclear agreement that Trump and his former national security adviser John Bolton worked so hard to torpedo.

 

At the G7 meeting in Biarritz, France last month, Trump told reporters that Iran might need a “short-term letter of credit or loan” that could “get them over a very rough patch.”

Iranian Prime Minister Javad Zarif made a surprise appearance at that meeting. To Robert Malley, who worked on Iran policy during the Obama administration, that visit indicated that “Trump must have signaled openness to Macron’s idea, otherwise Zarif would not have flown to Biarritz at the last minute.” “Clearly, Trump responded to Macron in a way that gave the French president a reason to invite Zarif and Zarif a reason to come,” he said.

 

The French proposal would require the Trump administration to issue waivers on Iranian sanctions. That would be a major departure from the Trump administration’s so-called “maximum pressure” campaign to exact financial punishments on the regime in Tehran. Ironically, during his time in office, President Barack Obama followed a not-dissimilar approach to bring the Iranians to the negotiating table, throttling Iran’s economy with sanctions before pledging relief for talks. The negotiations resulted in the Iran nuke deal that President Trump called “rotten”—and pulled the U.S. out of during his first term.

 

Trump’s flirtations with—if not outright enthusiasm toward—chummily sitting down with foreign dictators and America’s geopolitical foes are largely driven by his desire for historic photo ops and to be seen as the dealmaker-in-chief. It’s a desire so strong that it can motivate him to upturn years worth of his own administration’s policymaking and messaging.

And while President Trump has not agreed to anything yet, he did signal a willingness to cooperate on such a proposal at various times throughout the last month, including while at the G7 meeting in Biarritz, France, according to four sources with knowledge of the president’s conversations about the deal.

 

Several sources told The Daily Beast that foreign officials are expecting Trump to either agree to cooperate on the French deal or to offer to ease some sanctions on Tehran. Meanwhile, President Trump is also considering meeting Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in September. 

“I do believe they’d like to make a deal. If they do, that’s great. And if they don’t, that’s great too,” Trump told reporters Wednesday. “But they have tremendous financial difficulty, and the sanctions are getting tougher and tougher.” When asked if he would ease sanctions against Iran in order to get a meeting with Iran Trump simply said: “We’ll see what happens. I think Iran has a tremendous, tremendous potential.”

 

Spokespeople for the State Department, White House, and Treasury did not provide comment for this story. A spokesperson for the National Security Council simply referred The Daily Beast to Trump’s Wednesday comments on Iran. Bolton didn’t comment on Wednesday, either.

Trump’s willingness to discuss the credit line with the French, the Iranians and also Japanese President Shinzo Abe frustrated Bolton who had for months had urged Trump against softening his hard line against the regime in Tehran

 

Bolton, who vociferously opposed the Macron proposal, departed the Trump administration on explicitly and mutually bad terms on Tuesday. On his way out of door, Trump and senior administration officials went out of their way to keep publicly insisting he was fired, as Bolton kept messaging various news outlets that Trump couldn’t fire him because he quit. The former national security adviser and lifelong hawk had ruffled so many feathers and made so many enemies in the building that his senior colleagues had repeatedly tried to snitch him out to Trump for allegedly leaking to the media. 

 

On Tuesday afternoon, Bolton messaged The Daily Beast to say that allegations about him being a leaker were “flatly incorrect.

 

At a press briefing held shortly after Bolton’s exit on Tuesday, neither Secretary of State Mike Pompeo nor Treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin showed much sympathy for Bolton’s falling star in Trumpworld. “There were many times Ambassador Bolton and I disagreed,” Pompeo told reporters. “That’s to be sure, but that’s true with a lot of people with whom I interact.”

 

According to those who know Pompeo well, the secretary’s public statement was a glaring understatement.

 

But.....

 

This, once again, underscores Trump's penchant for tearing up deals made by his predecessor, and then installing something very similar, while taking credit for "saving" the situation. He's done this several times since becoming pOTUS.

 

I suppose the biggest stumbling block to this latest proposal is the fact that it will be difficult for Trump to take all of the credit for a deal that was Macron's idea. Knowing Trump, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gave it the old college try.

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22 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

This is comical in such a dark and sad way.

 

6 people have died from vaping related illness and there is a national outcry and senate/president proposing banning vaping, promising to get it done.

 

As of Sept 1st, the 244th day of the year, there were 283 mass shootings in the USA. A mass shooting is defined as an event in which 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter.

 

Somethings tells me that the priorities are a little skewed.....

E-cigarettes kill.  People don't kill

Guns don't kill.  People kill.

Black is white and white is Black.

Urine is good but Wendy's Baconator is better.  

 

Bone Spurs next goal is to put in an amendment to the constitution to declare Bacon officially kosher so that all following the Jewish faith can experience the true American way of life.

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8 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

E-cigarettes kill.  People don't kill

Guns don't kill.  People kill.

Black is white and white is Black.

Urine is good but Wendy's Baconator is better.  

 

Bone Spurs next goal is to put in an amendment to the constitution to declare Bacon officially kosher so that all following the Jewish faith can experience the true American way of like.

...would instantly become the best piece of legislation passed during his term....

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13 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

This is comical in such a dark and sad way.

 

6 people have died from vaping related illness and there is a national outcry and senate/president proposing banning vaping, promising to get it done.

 

As of Sept 1st, the 244th day of the year, there were 283 mass shootings in the USA. A mass shooting is defined as an event in which 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter.

 

Somethings tells me that the priorities are a little skewed.....

"Murica. Violence is woven into the country's very core. It was founded on it.

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This is interesting.....seems like Bibi might not be the "friend" that Trump thought he was....

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/israel-accused-of-planting-mysterious-spy-devices-near-the-white-house/ar-AAHaLN7?li=AAggFp5

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The U.S. government concluded within the last two years that Israel was most likely behind the placement of cell-phone surveillance devices that were found near the White House and other sensitive locations around Washington, D.C., according to three former senior U.S. officials with knowledge of the matter.

But unlike most other occasions when flagrant incidents of foreign spying have been discovered on American soil, the Trump administration did not rebuke the Israeli government, and there were no consequences for Israel’s behavior, one of the former officials said.

 

The miniature surveillance devices, colloquially known as “StingRays,” mimic regular cell towers to fool cell phones into giving them their locations and identity information. Formally called international mobile subscriber identity-catchers or IMSI-catchers, they also can capture the contents of calls and data use.

The devices were likely intended to spy on President Donald Trump, one of the former officials said, as well as his top aides and closest associates -- though it’s not clear whether the Israeli efforts were successful.

President Trump is reputed to be lax in observing White House security protocols. POLITICO reported in May 2018 that the president often used an insufficiently secured cell phone to communicate with friends and confidants. The New York Times subsequently reported in October 2018 that “Chinese spies are often listening” to Trump’s cell-phone calls, prompting the president to slam the story as “so incorrect I do not have time here to correct it.” (A former official said Trump has had his cell phone hardened against intrusion.)

By then, as part of tests by the federal government, officials at the Department of Homeland Security had already discovered evidence of the surveillance devices around the nation’s capital, but weren’t able to attribute the devices to specific entities. The officials shared their findings with relevant federal agencies, according to a letter a top DHS official, Christopher Krebs, wrote in May 2018 to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

Based on a detailed forensic analysis, the FBI and other agencies working on the case felt confident that Israeli agents had placed the devices, according to the former officials, several of whom served in top intelligence and national security posts.

That analysis, one of the former officials said, is typically led by the FBI’s counterintelligence division and involves examining the devices so that they “tell you a little about their history, where the parts and pieces come from, how old are they, who had access to them, and that will help get you to what the origins are.” For these types of investigations, the bureau often leans on the National Security Agency and sometimes the Central Intelligence Agency (DHS and the Secret Service played a supporting role in this specific investigation).

“It was pretty clear that the Israelis were responsible,” said a former senior intelligence official.

An Israeli Embassy spokesperson, Elad Strohmayer, denied that Israel placed the devices and said: “These allegations are absolute nonsense. Israel doesn’t conduct espionage operations in the United States, period.”

A senior Trump administration official said the administration doesn’t “comment on matters related to security or intelligence.” The FBI declined to comment, while DHS and the Secret Service didn’t respond to requests for comment.

But former officials with deep experience dealing with intelligence matters scoff at the Israeli claim — a pro forma denial Israeli officials are also known to make in private to skeptical U.S. counterparts.

One former senior intelligence official noted that after the FBI and other agencies concluded that the Israelis were most likely responsible for the devices, the Trump administration took no action to punish or even privately scold the Israeli government.

“The reaction ... was very different than it would have been in the last administration,” this person said. “With the current administration, there are a different set of calculations in regard to addressing this.”

The former senior intelligence official criticized how the administration handled the matter, remarking on the striking difference from past administrations, which likely would have at a very minimum issued a démarche, or formal diplomatic reprimand, to the foreign government condemning its actions.

“I’m not aware of any accountability at all,” said the former official.

Beyond trying to intercept the private conversations of top officials — prized information for any intelligence service — foreign countries often will try to surveil their close associates as well. With the president, the former senior Trump administration official noted, that could include trying to listen in on the devices of the people he regularly communicates with, such as Steve Wynn, Sean Hannity and Rudy Giuliani.

“The people in that circle are heavily targeted,” said the former Trump official.

 

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Watching older Real Time episodes that I missed. Yang's universal income dividend sounds like a good idea. I would certainly spend it or reinvest it. But I know they tried that in Finland? and it was a flop. Who knows.

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/team-trump-wrestles-with-its-qanon-problem/ar-AAHfRCs?ocid=spartandhp

 

In late August 2018, Lisa and John Welch weren’t feeling great about the future of QAnon, the ludicrous conspiracy theory that posits that Donald Trump is engaged in a secret battle with pedophilic elites in Hollywood, big banks, and the Democratic Party.

Lisa had bought into the theory first, then convinced her husband to sign on. But none of the mysterious Q’s predictions in anonymous internet forums had come to pass nearly a year after it started in October 2017, and QAnon believers were starting to lose faith. After yet another Q prediction failed to materialize in 2018, an armed, crazed QAnon fan allegedly shut down a bridge near the Hoover Dam with an improvised armored truck. 

The Welches decided they needed some way to show how many Trump supporters believed in the mega-conspiracy theory, which has pulled in Pizzagate and a wide range of other conspiracy theories. They printed up T-shirts and signs that said “We Are Q” and passed them out at a Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. 

 

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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un invited US President Donald Trump to visit Pyongyang

Mon 16 Sep 2019 00:58:38 GMT

 

Reports the invite came in August in a letter Kim sent to his new BFF. 

  • A South Korean newspaper reported 
  • citing diplomatic sources
  • In the letter Kim spoke of his willingness to meet Trump for another summit, one source reportedly told the Joongang Ilbo newspaper.
Comes via Reuters. Not very much more here.
 
In one of the 'beautiful letters?
 
Reports the invite came in August in a letter Kim sent to his new BFF. 
 
 
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It's kind of a nothing-burger story but I couldn't resist posting the pic. :lol:
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On 9/11/2019 at 7:09 PM, I.Am.Ironman said:

This is comical in such a dark and sad way.

 

6 people have died from vaping related illness and there is a national outcry and senate/president proposing banning vaping, promising to get it done.

 

As of Sept 1st, the 244th day of the year, there were 283 mass shootings in the USA. A mass shooting is defined as an event in which 4 people are shot, excluding the shooter.

 

Somethings tells me that the priorities are a little skewed.....

And (in the US) 37,000 died from automobile accidents,  80,000 people died from overdoses and 480,000 from cigarette related illnesses.  When you put things in perspective, you realise that throwing numbers around is all relative.  I think we have pretty sane firearm laws in Canada, but I'm not going to judge the US.  Many (a majority?) of American's believe this is a reasonable cost for their right to bear arms, just like they feel it's their right to drive private automobiles.  Make laws against narcotics may have actually increased the deaths associated with it, as decriminalising it seems to have lowered death rates in Portugal, for example.

 

Our real problem in this world is anger and outrage rather than rational discussion.

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The US needs Warren for 4-8 years to fix all of the corruption. 

 

She'll actually "drain the swamp" (as long as there is a Democrat Senate as well) instead of just talking about it like Trump. 

 

Case in point:

 

https://theweek.com/speedreads/865277/elizabeth-warren-proposes-lifetime-lobbying-ban-major-government-officials

 

 Warren would make it illegal for elected officials and top government appointees to become lobbyists at any point after serving in their role. That includes presidents, vice presidents, members of Congress, federal judges, and cabinet secretaries. Among the other ideas Warren outlined in the sweeping proposal are requiring the release of eight years of tax returns for all presidential and vice presidential candidates, as well as the release of returns from the president and vice president each year they are in office. Warren would also ban elected and appointed officials from owning or trading individual stocks while at their post and require presidents and vice presidents to place their businesses into a blind trust to be sold off after being elected.

 

Only part I don't like is the selling off of the business. 

 

vs. 

 

https://www.vox.com/2017/6/1/15723994/trump-ethics-waivers

 

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump presented himself as the ultimate outsider who would rid Washington of special interest corruption and “drain the swamp.” And immediately after taking office, he signed a flashy executive order tightening restrictions on lobbyists’ work in the executive branch.

But he immediately began to staff the administration with people whose work seemed, on its face, to clearly violate the terms of the order. Rather than publicly grant waivers of ethics rules with a clearly stated rationale, the White House was simply routinely waiving ethics rules in secret so nobody knew how many waivers were issued or for what purpose.

He’s granted five times as many waivers in his first four months in office as Obama did, which cover key figures in the administration like Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, chief strategist Steve Bannon, and counselor Kellyanne Conway. All told, 17 waivers were granted to members of the White House staff, and we still have no idea how many waivers have been granted for other executive branch agencies or whether anyone is even keeping track.

 

 

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On 9/14/2019 at 4:53 PM, gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/team-trump-wrestles-with-its-qanon-problem/ar-AAHfRCs?ocid=spartandhp

 

In late August 2018, Lisa and John Welch weren’t feeling great about the future of QAnon, the ludicrous conspiracy theory that posits that Donald Trump is engaged in a secret battle with pedophilic elites in Hollywood, big banks, and the Democratic Party.

Lisa had bought into the theory first, then convinced her husband to sign on. But none of the mysterious Q’s predictions in anonymous internet forums had come to pass nearly a year after it started in October 2017, and QAnon believers were starting to lose faith. After yet another Q prediction failed to materialize in 2018, an armed, crazed QAnon fan allegedly shut down a bridge near the Hoover Dam with an improvised armored truck. 

The Welches decided they needed some way to show how many Trump supporters believed in the mega-conspiracy theory, which has pulled in Pizzagate and a wide range of other conspiracy theories. They printed up T-shirts and signs that said “We Are Q” and passed them out at a Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. 

 

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Interesting. Didn't think I'd see this here...still. Lol.

 

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On 9/14/2019 at 4:53 PM, gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/team-trump-wrestles-with-its-qanon-problem/ar-AAHfRCs?ocid=spartandhp

 

In late August 2018, Lisa and John Welch weren’t feeling great about the future of QAnon, the ludicrous conspiracy theory that posits that Donald Trump is engaged in a secret battle with pedophilic elites in Hollywood, big banks, and the Democratic Party.

Lisa had bought into the theory first, then convinced her husband to sign on. But none of the mysterious Q’s predictions in anonymous internet forums had come to pass nearly a year after it started in October 2017, and QAnon believers were starting to lose faith. After yet another Q prediction failed to materialize in 2018, an armed, crazed QAnon fan allegedly shut down a bridge near the Hoover Dam with an improvised armored truck. 

The Welches decided they needed some way to show how many Trump supporters believed in the mega-conspiracy theory, which has pulled in Pizzagate and a wide range of other conspiracy theories. They printed up T-shirts and signs that said “We Are Q” and passed them out at a Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. 

 

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Lol reminds me of what's his face that used to post here going on about q and this always impending never arriving bs. So many ignorant suckers it's pretty striking. 

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On 9/14/2019 at 4:53 PM, gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/team-trump-wrestles-with-its-qanon-problem/ar-AAHfRCs?ocid=spartandhp

 

In late August 2018, Lisa and John Welch weren’t feeling great about the future of QAnon, the ludicrous conspiracy theory that posits that Donald Trump is engaged in a secret battle with pedophilic elites in Hollywood, big banks, and the Democratic Party.

Lisa had bought into the theory first, then convinced her husband to sign on. But none of the mysterious Q’s predictions in anonymous internet forums had come to pass nearly a year after it started in October 2017, and QAnon believers were starting to lose faith. After yet another Q prediction failed to materialize in 2018, an armed, crazed QAnon fan allegedly shut down a bridge near the Hoover Dam with an improvised armored truck. 

The Welches decided they needed some way to show how many Trump supporters believed in the mega-conspiracy theory, which has pulled in Pizzagate and a wide range of other conspiracy theories. They printed up T-shirts and signs that said “We Are Q” and passed them out at a Trump rally in Tampa, Florida. 

 

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I was wondering what John de Lance was doing after his role as “Q” on Star Trek the next generation......

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