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Donald J. Trump, 45th US President of the United States

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11 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Hasn't it been like over a year ?  was it a perma ban... I mean... we are a society that believes in second chances

Pretty sure it was the perma-ban and not just a suspension. I couldn't say if he had racked up any prior demerits, but judging by his penchant for trolling, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

I remember another poster (Sabre, i think) coming to his defense, saying (correctly) that he had seen worse things posted. However, once he was told that Harv repeatedly ignored warnings to stop posting BS about this one incident, he understood that it was deserved.

 

Both Hip and I had friends at that concert and I can tell you with 100% confidence that there was no "second shooter" in a helicopter.

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9 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

I'd like him back for the real estate thread he started. Lots of info.

Was the him or the other Harvey Specter?  I think we have (had) two?  

 

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2 hours ago, Duodenum said:

It's the same thing every hearing. 

 

The majority of the senators aren't there to represent their constituents and do their jobs. 

Did anyone bring KFC today? (I'm surprised that didn't draw Bone Spurs last time)

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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Was the him or the other Harvey Specter?  I think we have (had) two?  

 

It was him.

He's a realtor ...he does the tinfoil hat gig as a side hustle.

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2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

It was him.

He's a realtor ...he does the tinfoil hat gig as a side hustle.

I've met some people who are truly into these "tinfoil hat" things, and they really believe them.  They can be convincing for us who are simple minded. 

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52 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Both Hip and I had friends at that concert and I can tell you with 100% confidence that there was no "second shooter" in a helicopter.

My cousin and his, now, wife were there as well.

no second shooter. eos.

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3 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

That was Harvey Spector.....

 

He actually admitted that he was trolling at one point, but it was his promoting stupid conspiracy theories about the Las Vegas shooting, even after multiple warnings to cut it out, that got him banned.

I think it was the Parkland shooting that did him in. He started posting conspiracy theories about it, while kids' bodies were literally still warm, and then we never heard from him again. 

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http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-gets-amnesia-on-iran-opinion/ar-AAHoqzK?li=AAggFp5&ocid=ientp

 

Forget about the Iranians -- Trump's shifting positions on Iran seem to be confusing even for members of his own cabinet. US Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who plays a key role in enforcing American sanctions against Iran, said last week that Trump could meet Iranian President Hassan Rouhani with "no preconditions."

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made exactly the same point in June, saying the Trump administration was prepared to talk to Iran with "no preconditions."

And in July, Trump himself said he would meet with Rouhani with "no precondition."

But Trump seems to now have amnesia about it, tweeting Sunday, "The Fake News is saying that I am willing to meet with Iran, 'No Conditions.' That is an incorrect statement (as usual!)."

 

 

Trump in the early stages of dementia.  He clearly panders to his base and says "Fake New" cuz he know his base is too lazy to look up the facts.

 

 

 

 

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Another black eye for the Republican party:

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-senator-michael-folmer-child-pornography

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Pennsylvania state Sen. Michael Folmer was arrested after allegedly uploading child pornography online, the state's attorney general announced Tuesday.

Folmer, a 63-year-old Republican who represents Lebanon, Dauphin and York counties, was taken into custody after he allegedly uploaded the illegal photos to social networking website Tumblr.

The website reported the photo upload to authorities, which led to an investigation at Folmer's home, a press release from Attorney General Josh Shapiro's office said. While there, investigators allegedly found photos of child porn on his phone.

Folmer allegedly told investigators he was working through "some personal problems" and admitted to receiving the child porn through his Tumblr account, PennLive.com reported, citing charging documents.

“This defendant serves as a state Senator and was entrusted to honor and represent his community in the Pennsylvania Capitol,” Shapiro said in a statement. “I will continue to say it — no one is above the law, no matter what position of power they hold. I will continue to work to protect children and hold those who abuse them accountable.”

Democratic Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf on Wednesday called for Folmer's resignation, calling the charges filed against him "disgusting and beyond comprehension."

“We elect leaders to serve as a voice for those who do not have the ability to advocate for their own needs, demanding that they will protect our children, families, and communities," Wolf said in a statement. "[The charges] show he has taken advantage of the trust and privilege afforded by the people of Pennsylvania. He should immediately resign.”

The Pennsylvania Senate's top leaders, Senate President pro tempore Joe Scarnati and Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman, said they were stripping Folmer of his chairmanship of the Senate State Government Committee.

“We are shocked to learn tonight of the allegations made against Sen. Folmer,” the senators said in a joint statement, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. “We will fully cooperate with law enforcement regarding this deeply disturbing matter."

Folmer, who was elected to a fourth term in November, was charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and criminal use of a communication facility.

Fox News has reached out to Folmer's office for comment.

 

 

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16 hours ago, BPA said:

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-gets-amnesia-on-iran-opinion/ar-AAHoqzK?li=AAggFp5&ocid=ientp

 

Forget about the Iranians -- Trump's shifting positions on Iran seem to be confusing even for members of his own cabinet. US Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who plays a key role in enforcing American sanctions against Iran, said last week that Trump could meet Iranian President Hassan Rouhani with "no preconditions."

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo made exactly the same point in June, saying the Trump administration was prepared to talk to Iran with "no preconditions."

And in July, Trump himself said he would meet with Rouhani with "no precondition."

But Trump seems to now have amnesia about it, tweeting Sunday, "The Fake News is saying that I am willing to meet with Iran, 'No Conditions.' That is an incorrect statement (as usual!)."

 

 

Trump in the early stages of dementia.  He clearly panders to his base and says "Fake New" cuz he know his base is too lazy to look up the facts.

 

 

 

 

Someone should do the world a favor and take him out behind the shed.

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32 minutes ago, Toews said:

Q predicted this. Folmer is a RINO, part of the Hillary Pizzagate cabal. Praise Trump, the swamp is finally being drained. 

He is an extra-dimensional being of unknown origin who possesses immeasurable power over normal human notions of time, space, the laws of physics, and reality itself, being capable of altering it to his whim.

 

 

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6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

no one is above the law, no matter what position of power they hold. I will continue to work to protect children and hold those who abuse them accountable.”

Ok Josh, when will you charge Drumpf for altering that weather report, a crime with a punishment of up to six months confinement, a fine or both?

If found guilty, don't let this guy out.

Edit to add, don't let out the pedophile either.

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A major whistleblower complaint at the US's top spy agency involves a Trump phone call with a 'promise' to a foreign leader

President Donald Trump is the subject of a whistleblower complaint of “urgent concern” that was filed in the intelligence community in August, the Washington Post reported Wednesday night.

 

The whistleblower lodged the complaint because they were deeply troubled by a phone call Trump had with a foreign leader, and in particular, a “promise” Trump made during the call.

 

The House Intelligence Committee has demanded a full, unredacted copy of the complaint, but the Office of the Director of National Intelligence is refusing to turn it over.

 

The acting director of national intelligence will testify publicly before the committee on September 26, and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (IC IG) will testify in a closed session on Thursday.

 

President Donald Trump is the subject of a whistleblower complaint of “urgent concern” that was filed with the Intelligence Community Inspector General (IC IG) in August, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

 

Specifically, someone within the intelligence community was concerned by a phone call that Trump had with a foreign leader, which included a “promise” that was so deeply troubling to that official that they decided to lodge a formal whistleblower complaint with the IC IG.

It’s not clear who the leader was or what the substance of Trump’s promise was, but the revelation raises new questions about the president’s handling of classified information. It could also put more strain on Trump’s already-tense relationship with the US intelligence community.

The House Intelligence Community is fighting with the Trump administration to turn over the full complaint

Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Community, first revealed the existence of the complaint last week, when he subpoenaed the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, to turn over the full complaint to the committee in accordance with federal law.

 

The IC IG determined that the complaint was credible and a matter of “urgent concern.” But the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) overruled the IC IG after consulting with the Justice Department and concluding that the complaint does not fit the definition of “urgent concern” under federal law.

 

Trump on PhoneMark Wilson/Getty ImagesPresident Donald Trump on the phone in the Oval Office.


 

The definition concerns serious allegations related to “the funding, administration or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority” of the director of national intelligence, ODNI general counsel Jason Klitenic wrote in the letter.

 

“This complaint, however, concerned conduct by someone outside the Intelligence Community and did not relate to any ‘intelligence activity’ under the DNI’s supervision,” Klitenic added. For that reason, after consulting with the Justice Department, the agency concluded it was not required to forward the complaint to the intelligence committees.

 

Schiff said on Tuesday that Klitenic’s letter added to concerns that the ODNI was acting to shield Trump or someone in his inner circle from public scrutiny.

 

In addition to flagging the complaint with the Justice Department – which is unusual in and of itself for matters like these – Maguire also refused to comment on whether the White House was involved in the decision to withhold the complaint from the House Intelligence Committee, and whether it related to any matters being investigated by the panel.

 

Schiff said on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” Sunday that Maguire said he was not turning over the complaint, even though federal law mandates it, “because he is being instructed not to” and “answering to a higher authority” on the matter.

 

“This involved a higher authority, someone above the DNI,” Schiff said, alluding to Trump. “Well, there are only a few people above the DNI.”

 

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On 9/18/2019 at 6:52 PM, nuckin_futz said:

A major whistleblower complaint at the US's top spy agency involves a Trump phone call with a 'promise' to a foreign leader

President Donald Trump is the subject of a whistleblower complaint of “urgent concern” that was filed in the intelligence community in August, the Washington Post reported Wednesday night.

 

The whistleblower lodged the complaint because they were deeply troubled by a phone call Trump had with a foreign leader, and in particular, a “promise” Trump made during the call.

 

The House Intelligence Committee has demanded a full, unredacted copy of the complaint, but the Office of the Director of National Intelligence is refusing to turn it over.

 

The acting director of national intelligence will testify publicly before the committee on September 26, and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (IC IG) will testify in a closed session on Thursday.

 

President Donald Trump is the subject of a whistleblower complaint of “urgent concern” that was filed with the Intelligence Community Inspector General (IC IG) in August, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

 

Specifically, someone within the intelligence community was concerned by a phone call that Trump had with a foreign leader, which included a “promise” that was so deeply troubling to that official that they decided to lodge a formal whistleblower complaint with the IC IG.

It’s not clear who the leader was or what the substance of Trump’s promise was, but the revelation raises new questions about the president’s handling of classified information. It could also put more strain on Trump’s already-tense relationship with the US intelligence community.

The House Intelligence Community is fighting with the Trump administration to turn over the full complaint

Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Community, first revealed the existence of the complaint last week, when he subpoenaed the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, to turn over the full complaint to the committee in accordance with federal law.

 

The IC IG determined that the complaint was credible and a matter of “urgent concern.” But the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) overruled the IC IG after consulting with the Justice Department and concluding that the complaint does not fit the definition of “urgent concern” under federal law.

 

Trump on PhoneMark Wilson/Getty ImagesPresident Donald Trump on the phone in the Oval Office.


 

The definition concerns serious allegations related to “the funding, administration or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority” of the director of national intelligence, ODNI general counsel Jason Klitenic wrote in the letter.

 

“This complaint, however, concerned conduct by someone outside the Intelligence Community and did not relate to any ‘intelligence activity’ under the DNI’s supervision,” Klitenic added. For that reason, after consulting with the Justice Department, the agency concluded it was not required to forward the complaint to the intelligence committees.

 

Schiff said on Tuesday that Klitenic’s letter added to concerns that the ODNI was acting to shield Trump or someone in his inner circle from public scrutiny.

 

In addition to flagging the complaint with the Justice Department – which is unusual in and of itself for matters like these – Maguire also refused to comment on whether the White House was involved in the decision to withhold the complaint from the House Intelligence Committee, and whether it related to any matters being investigated by the panel.

 

Schiff said on CBS News’ “Face the Nation” Sunday that Maguire said he was not turning over the complaint, even though federal law mandates it, “because he is being instructed not to” and “answering to a higher authority” on the matter.

 

“This involved a higher authority, someone above the DNI,” Schiff said, alluding to Trump. “Well, there are only a few people above the DNI.”

 

So much corruption.

 

“As the 2020 election draws closer, President Trump and his personal attorney appear to have increased pressure on the Ukrainian government and its justice system in service of President Trump’s reelection campaign, and the White House and the State Department may be abetting this scheme,” the chairmen of the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees wrote, citing media reports that Trump had threatened to withhold $250 million in aid to help Ukraine in its ongoing struggle against Russian-backed separatists.

The timeline:

Donald Trump is convinced that the new Ukrainian government will be able to quickly improve image of Ukraine, complete investigation of corruption cases, which inhibited the interaction between Ukraine and the USA.

If he is really using the office of President to extort a foreign country into harming his domestic political opponents, this isn't just worse than anything in the Mueller report. It is worse than anything we thought might be in the Mueller report

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This is what happens when you have a corrupt, inept administration.  They cannot even keep their story straight.  All it took was a few pressing questions for Rudy to slip up.

 

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Giuliani Admits He Asked Ukraine To ‘Look Into’ Biden In Unhinged CNN Interview

 

 

 

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TRUMP created the conditions where this bailout was needed.  Obama didn't create the environment where the automaker's bailout was needed.  TRUMP's bailout of farmers is more than double the auto bailout and will continue to grow.  I know that there was way more given to the banks, but understand that there are GOP members who were critical of the auto bailout, like Mitt Romney who wrote an op-ed urging Obama to let Detroit go bankrupt. 

 

Self inflicted stupidity by TRUMP and co.

 

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Trump’s $28 Billion Bet That Rural America Will Stick With Him

 

Farmers caught in the trade war have become dependent on government payments.

 

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At $28 billion so far, the farm rescue is more than twice as expensive as the 2009 bailout of Detroit’s Big Three automakers, which cost taxpayers $12 billion. And farmers expect the money to keep flowing: In an August survey by Purdue University and the CME Group, 58% said they anticipate another round of trade aid next year.

 

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