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1 hour ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

 

Kinda fits with the usual dictator checklist.  Plaster your name and likeness on things.  His head on Mount Rushmore is the ultimate completion of this.

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1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said:

You'll never guess which narcissistic clown thinks he belongs on Mount Rushmore with Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jefferson, and Washington.....:rolleyes:

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/yes-trump-actually-did-want-to-be-added-to-mount-rushmore.html

 

Back in 2018, then South Dakota Republican representative Kristi Noem recounted how when she met President Trump for the first time in the Oval Office in 2017, he told her that it was his dream for his face to end up on Mount Rushmore. She laughed in response, but apparently Trump wasn’t joking:

He said, “Kristi, come on over here. Shake my hand.” I shook his hand, and I said, “Mr. President, you should come to South Dakota sometime. We have Mount Rushmore.” And he goes, “Do you know it’s my dream to have my face on Mount Rushmore?” I started laughing. He wasn’t laughing, so he was totally serious.

When the president later brought up the idea again at one of his rallies that same year, he claimed he was joking, then complained that the media would report that he said he thinks he should be on Mount Rushmore. It should come as no surprise that it now seems clear that Trump really does think that.

On Saturday, the New York Times published a report about how Vice-President Mike Pence has apparently seen Noem, now South Dakota’s governor, as a possible threat — worrying that Trump might replace him with her in order to theoretically improve the president’s chances at winning reelection this fall. Palace infighting aside, last year, according to the Times, “a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?”

Then, when Trump traveled to South Dakota to celebrate the July 4 holiday and give a divisive speech at Mount Rushmore, Noem — who has been getting advice from former 2016 Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski — tried to grant the president’s wish, at least in miniature:

In private, the efforts to charm Mr. Trump were more pointed, according to a person familiar with the episode: Ms. Noem greeted him with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included a fifth presidential likeness: his.

Sadly for Trump, one of the reasons Noem originally laughed at his dream in the Oval Office, and laughed about it again as she recounted the story a year later, is that most South Dakotans already know that adding another face to the monument is not physically possible — as the Argus Leader pointed out when writing up Noem’s funny Trump tale:

Maureen McGee-Ballinger, public information officer at Mount Rushmore, said workers are asked daily whether any president can be added. And for years, people have suggested Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, among others. A website — MakeRoomonRushmore.com — advocates for Obama.

 

“There is no more carvable space up on the sculpture,” McGee-Ballinger said. “When you are looking on the sculpture, it appears there might be some space on the left next to Washington or right next to Lincoln. You are either looking at the rock that is beyond the sculpture (on the right), which is an optical illusion, or on the left, that is not carvable.”

In response to the claim about a White House aide asking about adding a new face, the Times reported that a White House official “noted that it is a federal, not state, monument” — thus implying the Trump White House would never have made such an ignorant inquiry in the service of the president’s vanity.

Of course, it probably would be possible to carve another face into the Mount Rushmore — just not one of the same scale. Nevertheless, the dream apparently lives on.....

 

First of all.......c'mon

Second, who does that?

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The only thing bigger than Slick Willy's libido is Bone Spurs ego:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/09/politics/mount-rushmore-trump-south-dakota/index.html

 

:lol:

 

Bone Spurs is just imagining all the additional 'Made in China' t-shirts with the Mount Rushmore logo on it he could sell at Walmart.

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8 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

Completely disagree. It was a direct result of the assassination of Soleimani. To make maters worse, both Bone Spurs and Pompeo lied about an imminent attack as justification for the killing.

 

FACT: If the Americans don't kill Soleimani, that jet doesn't get shot down. Also a fact: Combined with reneging on the Iran nuclear deal,  the assassination of Soleimani is a huge escalation of tensions with Iran. Not business as usual.

But it's not.  Iran has stated it was due to human error. 

 

The plane wasn't American, nor was it from any US-aligned country either.  It was Ukrainian.... there's no issue between the Ukraine and Iran.  It wasn't as if the plane suddenly appeared mysteriously on radar heading towards Iran.... it took off from Iran's capital.  

Instead of actually just contacting the aircraft/airline and/or double checking flight manifests, some trigger happy officer decided to blow it up from the sky.  Just a couple of minutes of investigation and caution could have prevented all this.  

 

I know you want to blame Trump for any and all issues, but you're wrong for this one.  The blame isn't for Trump, it's for Iran (which they already accepted responsibility for BTW).    

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48 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

But it's not.  Iran has stated it was due to human error. 

 

The plane wasn't American, nor was it from any US-aligned country either.  It was Ukrainian.... there's no issue between the Ukraine and Iran.  It wasn't as if the plane suddenly appeared mysteriously on radar heading towards Iran.... it took off from Iran's capital.  

Instead of actually just contacting the aircraft/airline and/or double checking flight manifests, some trigger happy officer decided to blow it up from the sky.  Just a couple of minutes of investigation and caution could have prevented all this.  

 

I know you want to blame Trump for any and all issues, but you're wrong for this one.  The blame isn't for Trump, it's for Iran (which they already accepted responsibility for BTW).    

The crew that shot down the plane had no idea what country the plane was from. They thought they were under attack and made a tragic mistake. That doesn't change the fact that if Trump hadn't killed Soleimani, that plane doesn't get shot down.

 

I know you want to defend Trump, but you're wrong on this one.

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59 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

But it's not.  Iran has stated it was due to human error. 

 

The plane wasn't American, nor was it from any US-aligned country either.  It was Ukrainian.... there's no issue between the Ukraine and Iran.  It wasn't as if the plane suddenly appeared mysteriously on radar heading towards Iran.... it took off from Iran's capital.  

Instead of actually just contacting the aircraft/airline and/or double checking flight manifests, some trigger happy officer decided to blow it up from the sky.  Just a couple of minutes of investigation and caution could have prevented all this.  

 

I know you want to blame Trump for any and all issues, but you're wrong for this one.  The blame isn't for Trump, it's for Iran (which they already accepted responsibility for BTW).    

Unfortunately being trigger happy isn't an problem just with certain countries....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

 

 

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On 8/8/2020 at 6:03 PM, nux4lyfe said:

 

 

How is people dying his fault? Is he God? Does he make Vaccines too now?

You're welcome 

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/trump-coronavirus-deaths-timeline.html

 

The Trump Pandemic

A blow-by-blow account of how the president killed thousands of Americans.

AUG 09, 20207:00 PM
 

On July 17, President Donald Trump sat for a Fox News interview at the White House. At the time, nearly 140,000 Americans were dead from the novel coronavirus. The interviewer, Chris Wallace, showed Trump a video clip in which Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned of a difficult fall and winter ahead. Trump dismissed the warning. He scoffed that experts had misjudged the virus all along. “Everybody thought this summer it would go away,” said Trump. “They used to say the heat, the heat was good for it and it really knocks it out, remember? So they got that one wrong.”

 

Trump’s account was completely backward. Redfield and other U.S. public health officials had never promised that heat would knock out the virus. In fact, they had cautioned against that assumption. The person who had held out the false promise of a warm-weather reprieve, again and again, was Trump. And he hadn’t gotten the idea from any of his medical advisers. He had gotten it from Xi Jinping, the president of China, in a phone call in February.

 

The phone call, the talking points Trump picked up from it, and his subsequent attempts to cover up his alliance with Xi are part of a deep betrayal. The story the president now tells—that he “built the greatest economy in history,” that China blindsided him by unleashing the virus, and that Trump saved millions of lives by mobilizing America to defeat it—is a lie. Trump collaborated with Xi, concealed the threat, impeded the U.S. government’s response, silenced those who sought to warn the public, and pushed states to take risks that escalated the tragedy. He’s personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

 

This isn’t speculation. All the evidence is in the public record. But the truth, unlike Trump’s false narrative, is scattered in different places. It’s in emails, leaks, interviews, hearings, scientific reports, and the president’s stray remarks. This article puts those fragments together. It documents Trump’s interference or negligence in every stage of the government’s failure: preparation, mobilization, public communication, testing, mitigation, and reopening.

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2 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

The crew that shot down the plane had no idea what country the plane was from. They thought they were under attack and made a tragic mistake. That doesn't change the fact that if Trump hadn't killed Soleimani, that plane doesn't get shot down.

 

I know you want to defend Trump, but you're wrong on this one.

Not sure how they could have not known.... it's departed from their own airport.  

It'll be like if the Canadian Air Force shoots down a plane flying out of Toronto International.  

All the Iranians had to do was go,

"Air defense command to Tehran international.... did a flight going NW direction take off within the last few minutes?" 

"Affirmative, the Ukrainian airline just took off as per their scheduled flight"

"Copy, over"

 

The Iranians have admitted they made a mistake, yet you're still willing to ignore their statement and say it's all Trump fault?  What more can be done to prove to you that this wasn't Trump fault?  Ayatollah Khomeini coming back from the dead to tell you in person?

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19 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

You'll never guess which narcissistic clown thinks he belongs on Mount Rushmore with Lincoln, Roosevelt, Jefferson, and Washington.....:rolleyes:

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/yes-trump-actually-did-want-to-be-added-to-mount-rushmore.html

 

Back in 2018, then South Dakota Republican representative Kristi Noem recounted how when she met President Trump for the first time in the Oval Office in 2017, he told her that it was his dream for his face to end up on Mount Rushmore. She laughed in response, but apparently Trump wasn’t joking:

He said, “Kristi, come on over here. Shake my hand.” I shook his hand, and I said, “Mr. President, you should come to South Dakota sometime. We have Mount Rushmore.” And he goes, “Do you know it’s my dream to have my face on Mount Rushmore?” I started laughing. He wasn’t laughing, so he was totally serious.

When the president later brought up the idea again at one of his rallies that same year, he claimed he was joking, then complained that the media would report that he said he thinks he should be on Mount Rushmore. It should come as no surprise that it now seems clear that Trump really does think that.

On Saturday, the New York Times published a report about how Vice-President Mike Pence has apparently seen Noem, now South Dakota’s governor, as a possible threat — worrying that Trump might replace him with her in order to theoretically improve the president’s chances at winning reelection this fall. Palace infighting aside, last year, according to the Times, “a White House aide reached out to the governor’s office with a question, according to a Republican official familiar with the conversation: What’s the process to add additional presidents to Mount Rushmore?”

Then, when Trump traveled to South Dakota to celebrate the July 4 holiday and give a divisive speech at Mount Rushmore, Noem — who has been getting advice from former 2016 Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski — tried to grant the president’s wish, at least in miniature:

In private, the efforts to charm Mr. Trump were more pointed, according to a person familiar with the episode: Ms. Noem greeted him with a four-foot replica of Mount Rushmore that included a fifth presidential likeness: his.

Sadly for Trump, one of the reasons Noem originally laughed at his dream in the Oval Office, and laughed about it again as she recounted the story a year later, is that most South Dakotans already know that adding another face to the monument is not physically possible — as the Argus Leader pointed out when writing up Noem’s funny Trump tale:

Maureen McGee-Ballinger, public information officer at Mount Rushmore, said workers are asked daily whether any president can be added. And for years, people have suggested Franklin Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan, among others. A website — MakeRoomonRushmore.com — advocates for Obama.

 

“There is no more carvable space up on the sculpture,” McGee-Ballinger said. “When you are looking on the sculpture, it appears there might be some space on the left next to Washington or right next to Lincoln. You are either looking at the rock that is beyond the sculpture (on the right), which is an optical illusion, or on the left, that is not carvable.”

In response to the claim about a White House aide asking about adding a new face, the Times reported that a White House official “noted that it is a federal, not state, monument” — thus implying the Trump White House would never have made such an ignorant inquiry in the service of the president’s vanity.

Of course, it probably would be possible to carve another face into the Mount Rushmore — just not one of the same scale. Nevertheless, the dream apparently lives on.....

 

In that case...might as well just Remodel the entire mountain side...


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9 hours ago, Lancaster said:

Not sure how they could have not known.... it's departed from their own airport.  

It'll be like if the Canadian Air Force shoots down a plane flying out of Toronto International.  

All the Iranians had to do was go,

"Air defense command to Tehran international.... did a flight going NW direction take off within the last few minutes?" 

"Affirmative, the Ukrainian airline just took off as per their scheduled flight"

"Copy, over"

 

The Iranians have admitted they made a mistake, yet you're still willing to ignore their statement and say it's all Trump fault?  What more can be done to prove to you that this wasn't Trump fault?  Ayatollah Khomeini coming back from the dead to tell you in person?

The Iranians have admitted that they shot down the plane by accident, mistaking it for an American fighter. (some accounts say Cruise Missile) That isn't in question. The reason they did so is what we don't know for sure.

 

What we do know is that the Iranians were on heightened alert, after an attack from the US:

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The missile strike occurred four hours after Iran launched retaliatory missile strikes on U.S. positions in Iraq for the killing of Major General Qasem Soleimani.[11] Iran was on the highest state of defensive alert and, according to Commander of the Aerospace Force of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Amir Ali Hajizadeh, was "totally prepared for a full-fledged war".

 

We also know that the plane was shot down by a mobile missile battery:

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On 11 July 2020, the CAOI reported that Iran now blamed the missile strike that downed PS752 on "bad communication" and "poor alignment". According to the Iranians, the missile battery "had been relocated and was not properly reoriented" and the guilty parties did not include the higher-ranking chain of command officers.

 

Whether the battery operators were aware that they were firing on a civilian plane, with 82 of their countrymen and zero Americans aboard, we'll probably never know, but to me it seems unlikely. The more logical explanation, IMO, is that the operators were on edge because they thought they were under attack and acted rashly:

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Western experts had previously noted that Flight 752 was flying near several sensitive Iranian ballistic missile facilities, including the Shahid Modarres missile base at Bidganeh near Malard, which the Iranians could have believed would be targets of retaliation for their attack a few hours earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752

 

Finally, I'm not saying it's "all" Trump's fault. I'm saying that if the attack on Soleimani doesn't happen, neither does the shooting down of Flight 752. I really don't see how anyone can refute that. (although I'm sure you'll try)

 

This conversation started with you wanting to give Trump credit for "not starting any wars". You also claimed that tensions with Iran are much as they have been since 1979. IMHO, the assassination of an Iranian General, on Iraqi soil, (without approval or even notification of the Iraqis) coupled with the tearing up of the Iran Nuclear Deal for no better reason that it was negotiated by his predecessor, suggests that maybe that credit is misplaced.

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2 hours ago, Canorth said:

In that case...might as well just Remodel the entire mountain side...


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That's a good idea.....

 

Another one would be Trump on the left, followed by a Person, a Man, a Woman, a Camera and a TV.....

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

 

A couple of interesting paragraphs:

 

"For the first time, the international community felt compelled to send disaster relief to Washington. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.” As American doctors and nurses eagerly awaited emergency airlifts of basic supplies from China, the hinge of history opened to the Asian century."

 

"Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace, making it, as he wrote, “the most warlike nation in the history of the world.” Since 2001, the U.S. has spent over $6 trillion on military operations and war, money that might have been invested in the infrastructure of home. China, meanwhile, built its nation, pouring more cement every three years than America did in the entire 20th century."

 

It's a long read but worth the time, I'm still working through it. Pretty interesting. It will be interesting to get the takes of our American friends @nux4lyfe @CBH1926

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20 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

 

:lol:

Not surprised, most Republicans diehard actually like the programs implemented or proposed by so called liberals and progressives. It just has to come from a Republican for them to embrace it.

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38 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

 

A couple of interesting paragraphs:

 

"For the first time, the international community felt compelled to send disaster relief to Washington. For more than two centuries, reported the Irish Times, “the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger. But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the U.S. until now: pity.” As American doctors and nurses eagerly awaited emergency airlifts of basic supplies from China, the hinge of history opened to the Asian century."

 

"Since the 1970s, China has not once gone to war; the U.S. has not spent a day at peace. President Jimmy Carter recently noted that in its 242-year history, America has enjoyed only 16 years of peace, making it, as he wrote, “the most warlike nation in the history of the world.” Since 2001, the U.S. has spent over $6 trillion on military operations and war, money that might have been invested in the infrastructure of home. China, meanwhile, built its nation, pouring more cement every three years than America did in the entire 20th century."

 

It's a long read but worth the time, I'm still working through it. Pretty interesting. It will be interesting to get the takes of our American friends @nux4lyfe @CBH1926

I read this article few days ago as someone else posted it.

BTW I think nux is your fellow countryman.

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Apparently, there's no room on Mount Rushmore for Trump, but I think I have a solution.....

 

.....ladies and gentlemen, i give you:

 

Spoiler


                             Mount Bone Spurs!

9500m High Garbage Pile In New Jersey Replaces Everest As New ...

 

 

Start carving boys.....

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That face(s) you make when you're interviewing the biggest liar on the planet and the dumbest president in history....

Photograph from @SampsaNuotio on Twitter.

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Someone was shot outside the white house ?  wonder what they were up to 

 

 

 

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