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7 hours ago, Offensive Threat said:

? The numbers tell a different story and they dont lie. They have been the fastest growing economy of the G7 members since 2013 and are expected to continue to be so for the foreseeable future. Low unemployment, debt under control, expanding economy. We should all wish we were `sinking` like them.

Austerity and taxes through the roof and huge debt..

Btw, it's not very difficult to be ahead of other g7 nation's atm.

 

Lmao you want to be in the u.k's situation? Way to know nothing about the u.k...

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I always found it funny how they mention the issue of security and how it's better to stay in the EU. 

 

More control over immigration and the border seems to be better for security.  Plus, the UK is a nuclear power, a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a major member in NATO, and one of the few countries in the world with the capability to project power overseas.  Cooperation between Intel has always been done, INTERPOL, etc.  Not sure how being in the EU can help security. 

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Might as well give this thread a bump seeing as how the BREXIT vote is on Thursday June 23rd.

 

First Brexit Poll Since Jo Cox Killing Has ‘Remain’ in Lead

June 18, 2016 — 2:53 PM PDT Updated on June 19, 2016 — 1:10 AM PDT
 
 
 
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Tributes including flowers calling for a 'remain' vote in the EU referendum are piled in remembrance against a photograph of slain Labour MP Jo Cox in Parliament Square central London on June 18, 2016.

Photographer: Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images
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  • 45% back staying in EU, 42% want Brexit, Survation survey says
  • Cameron says ‘no turning back’ if voters choose to leave EU
 

The campaign to keep the U.K. in the European Union led in the first opinion poll fully conducted since Thursday’s slaying of politician Jo Cox as the debate resumed five days before the referendum.

 

Staying in the bloc won 45 percent support in the Survation telephone poll of 1,001 adults on Friday and Saturday for the Mail on Sunday. Leaving was endorsed by 42 percent.

 

The poll marked a reversal of positions from Survation’s previous survey, which was released just before pro-EU Labour Party lawmaker Cox was shot and stabbed on Thursday as she met constituents in her electoral district in northern England.

 

Her killing led to the suspension of campaigning, which had turned increasingly rancorous ahead of the June 23 referendum. Polls had shown mounting support for withdrawal from the EU in the week before her death.

 

A survey by YouGov Plc for the Sunday Times, a third of which was conducted before the attack, showed “Remain” on 44 percent and “Leave” on 43 percent. The pollster said it doubted the rise in backing for the EU was tied to the death of Cox and suggested it may relate more to concerns about what Brexit would mean for the economy.

 

The public debate resumed late Saturday with Prime Minister David Cameron writing in the Sunday Telegraph that there would be “no turning back” from quitting the EU and that doing so would trigger a “probable recession.”

 

“If you’re not sure, don’t take the risk of leaving,” he said. “If you don’t know, don’t go.”

 

Speaking to the same newspaper, pro-Brexit Justice Secretary Michael Gove said rather than suffering a recession, the U.K. would thrive outside of the EU and urged the public to “vote for hope.”

 

WPP Plc Chief Executive Officer Martin Sorrell and Barclays Plc Chairman John McFarlane are among business leaders signing an open letter that argues that “EU membership is good for business and good for British jobs,” according to the Sunday Times, based on a draft of the letter.

 

A letter to the Sun on Sunday, signed by 37 executives including Patisserie Holdings Plc CEO Luke Johnson, said small firms will thrive after leaving the Brussels “straitjacket.”

 

Cox, in an article written four days before her death and published in the Mail on Sunday, urged voters not “fall for the spin” that voting to leave would resolve issues over immigration, the key argument advanced by the “Leave” camp.

 

“We can do far more to address both the level and impact of immigration while remaining in the EU,” she wrote.

 

On Sunday morning, Gove and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will appear on the BBC’s “Andrew Marr” program before Cameron discusses the issue on a special edition of the channel’s “Question Time” in the evening.

 

Thomas Mair, 52, who lives in Cox’s northern England electoral district, was charged with her murder on Saturday. Following the attack, politicians have sought to promote unity and Parliament will be recalled on Monday to pay tribute to Cox.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-18/first-brexit-poll-since-jo-cox-killing-shows-remain-in-lead

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The UK needs to take control of their immigration, trade deals and reclaim their sovereignty. 

 

The EU is a disaster from an economic perspective, the UK pays in but receives very little in return.

 

Whatever negative impact the Brexit would have on the UK would be temporary.

 

If anything the fearmongering and threats given by the unelected EU leadership seems to indicate that the EU has a lot more to lose from the Brexit than the UK does, which is one more reason why leaving is the best choice for the UK.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said:

 

I enjoy most Last Week Tonight episodes, and most are bang-on.  But in some episodes the biases are way too clear to ignore.  This was one of those episodes.

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Interesting that Sweden had a similar vote, in 2003, & only 4 days prior, another MP was murdered by a supposed crazed assailant. Her name was Anna Lindh, who was brutally stabbed to death.

 

Such patterns seem rather alarming.

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19 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Might as well give this thread a bump seeing as how the BREXIT vote is on Thursday June 23rd.

 

First Brexit Poll Since Jo Cox Killing Has ‘Remain’ in Lead

June 18, 2016 — 2:53 PM PDT Updated on June 19, 2016 — 1:10 AM PDT
 
 
 
1466287142_GettyImages-541022822

Tributes including flowers calling for a 'remain' vote in the EU referendum are piled in remembrance against a photograph of slain Labour MP Jo Cox in Parliament Square central London on June 18, 2016.

Photographer: Ben Stansall/AFP via Getty Images
  •  
  • 45% back staying in EU, 42% want Brexit, Survation survey says
  • Cameron says ‘no turning back’ if voters choose to leave EU
 

The campaign to keep the U.K. in the European Union led in the first opinion poll fully conducted since Thursday’s slaying of politician Jo Cox as the debate resumed five days before the referendum.

 

Staying in the bloc won 45 percent support in the Survation telephone poll of 1,001 adults on Friday and Saturday for the Mail on Sunday. Leaving was endorsed by 42 percent.

 

The poll marked a reversal of positions from Survation’s previous survey, which was released just before pro-EU Labour Party lawmaker Cox was shot and stabbed on Thursday as she met constituents in her electoral district in northern England.

 

Her killing led to the suspension of campaigning, which had turned increasingly rancorous ahead of the June 23 referendum. Polls had shown mounting support for withdrawal from the EU in the week before her death.

 

A survey by YouGov Plc for the Sunday Times, a third of which was conducted before the attack, showed “Remain” on 44 percent and “Leave” on 43 percent. The pollster said it doubted the rise in backing for the EU was tied to the death of Cox and suggested it may relate more to concerns about what Brexit would mean for the economy.

 

The public debate resumed late Saturday with Prime Minister David Cameron writing in the Sunday Telegraph that there would be “no turning back” from quitting the EU and that doing so would trigger a “probable recession.”

 

“If you’re not sure, don’t take the risk of leaving,” he said. “If you don’t know, don’t go.”

 

Speaking to the same newspaper, pro-Brexit Justice Secretary Michael Gove said rather than suffering a recession, the U.K. would thrive outside of the EU and urged the public to “vote for hope.”

 

WPP Plc Chief Executive Officer Martin Sorrell and Barclays Plc Chairman John McFarlane are among business leaders signing an open letter that argues that “EU membership is good for business and good for British jobs,” according to the Sunday Times, based on a draft of the letter.

 

A letter to the Sun on Sunday, signed by 37 executives including Patisserie Holdings Plc CEO Luke Johnson, said small firms will thrive after leaving the Brussels “straitjacket.”

 

Cox, in an article written four days before her death and published in the Mail on Sunday, urged voters not “fall for the spin” that voting to leave would resolve issues over immigration, the key argument advanced by the “Leave” camp.

 

“We can do far more to address both the level and impact of immigration while remaining in the EU,” she wrote.

 

On Sunday morning, Gove and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will appear on the BBC’s “Andrew Marr” program before Cameron discusses the issue on a special edition of the channel’s “Question Time” in the evening.

 

Thomas Mair, 52, who lives in Cox’s northern England electoral district, was charged with her murder on Saturday. Following the attack, politicians have sought to promote unity and Parliament will be recalled on Monday to pay tribute to Cox.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-18/first-brexit-poll-since-jo-cox-killing-shows-remain-in-lead

I haven't looked into all the details with this whole Brexit thing. But the fact that she was murdered by an inbred right wing Neo Nazi is all the information I need for me to support the British people to stay in the EU.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Cox

 

 

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9 hours ago, Jägermeister said:

I enjoy most Last Week Tonight episodes, and most are bang-on.  But in some episodes the biases are way too clear to ignore.  This was one of those episodes.

Yep, I wonder why five of Europe's richest nations have refused to join the EU, seems to me they have no trouble finding trade partners.

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The polls for staying or leaving are pretty close but the murder last week of the MP will likely make stay in the EU the most likely outcome.  That incident is pushing just enough people to vote stay in EU.  Before the murder, the exit had a slim lead.

 

People should vote on facts and not emotion but that's life.

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If the neo-nazis want to leave, it's safe to assume that leaving is not the right choice.

 

Stay.

 

 

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Pretty interesting article about Brexit on CBC.ca. ....from someone in a position to know:

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brexit-euro-myths-1.3645183

 

I didn't bother embedding the article, because the formatting always gets screwed up when I post it. If you're interested, it shouldn't be too much trouble to click on a link...

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13 hours ago, Hugor Hill said:

I haven't looked into all the details with this whole Brexit thing. But the fact that she was murdered by an inbred right wing Neo Nazi is all the information I need for me to support the British people to stay in the EU.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Cox

 

 

Yikes. Awfully amateur way to make your decisions I would say.

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18 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Yikes. Awfully amateur way to make your decisions I would say.

Quite often I find it is smarter to vote against the side where the crazies gravitate towards.

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1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

Yikes. Awfully amateur way to make your decisions I would say.

Not at all. Common sense really.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Toews said:

Quite often I find it is smarter to vote against the side where the crazies gravitate towards.

Says the sheep?

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39 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Says the sheep?

If you say so. Although it's better to be labeled a sheep than support something that Nigel Farage thinks is a great idea.

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