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Will admit not a huge fan of his but hopefully next season he can surprise some people. Playing 4th line centre I'm hoping for 15-20 points from him

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I think, like Bärtschi, he just needs to be given true time and space to develop. The same thing lots of upset fans said about Shinkaruk in Van (we didn't give him a chance) could be said about Granlund's time in Calgary.

 

Willie's goal of treating the fourth line like a development line rather than a grinding shutdown line should match up well with Granlund's skill set. Throw Baer and Virtanen on the wings and I think we've got an up and coming skill line producing some secondary scoring. I could see Granny potting 5-10 to goals over 15-20 points next season .

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8 hours ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said:

I think, like Bärtschi, he just needs to be given true time and space to develop. The same thing lots of upset fans said about Shinkaruk in Van (we didn't give him a chance) could be said about Granlund's time in Calgary.

I wouldn't be surprised if Granlund got benched for a game or two before December.

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Canucks are lacking playmakers, so he's a good fit for now.  He is undersized, which will be a problem for him in the WC.  I have to admit that I was suprised that his defensive game wasn't bad.

 

He just turned 23 and only played 16 games with his new team, so I think we need to wait and see how he does next season. 

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4 minutes ago, shayster007 said:

I think a lot of people have labelled Granny as a career 3rd/4th defensive player, but I'm not entirely sure that's the case. I think he does have a play making, offensive upside that went relatively untapped due to his position on the depth charts in the Flames organization. Being stuck behind Monahana, Backlund and Bennett left Granlund with the defensive liabilitys of a skilled team. 

 

Granlund will be given 4th line minutes to start, and learn the basics of the NHL from Willie. Just like Bo, Baer, Virt and the rest of project kids Willie has been raising. By focusing on a simple defensive game he doesn't need to focus on offense and can just let it come naturally (much like Bo his first year). I think it's important to remember that in his brief stints with AHL clubs he was almost a point a game player, so he does have offensive instincts. 

 

The other beef I regularly hear about Granlund is that he's soft. I actually agree with that notion for the time being. The kid is still young, and at 6 foot tall does have the potential to pack on a lot more muscle and bulk up from the 170-175 he is currently playing at. His brother is several inches shorter, and 10 to 15 pounds heavier, so I'm confident that Granny has the ability to bulk over the next year or two and possibly reach a 185 or 190 playing weight. If he could manage that on a 6 foot frame that is a respectable figure to be playing at for his skill set. 

 

The final thing that excites me about Granny is 'the Benning factor'. I trust in Benning's scouting and his judgement on a players potential. I honestly don't think that Jim would trade a player who clearly had top 6 potential,  for a player that he didn't believe had that potential. We are obviously currently set in our top 3 centers. But the future does seem more uncertain with the McCann trade. I think that Granlund has the potential to be a top 6 forward if we don't pick up Dubois, or Stamkos. With a physical winger like Tkachuck or Virt, if his play making ability develops he could be an affective top 6 forward. Obviously his potential and ceiling is more likely a real good 3rd line center, but I think Benning at least projects Granny of having the potential to reach a higher ceiling. 

 

All in all I'm excited to watch our Finn develop over the next couple years into, what I can only hope, is a real good player

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, shayster007 said:

I think a lot of people have labelled Granny as a career 3rd/4th defensive player, but I'm not entirely sure that's the case. I think he does have a play making, offensive upside that went relatively untapped due to his position on the depth charts in the Flames organization. Being stuck behind Monahana, Backlund and Bennett left Granlund with the defensive liabilitys of a skilled team. 

 

Granlund will be given 4th line minutes to start, and learn the basics of the NHL from Willie. Just like Bo, Baer, Virt and the rest of project kids Willie has been raising. By focusing on a simple defensive game he doesn't need to focus on offense and can just let it come naturally (much like Bo his first year). I think it's important to remember that in his brief stints with AHL clubs he was almost a point a game player, so he does have offensive instincts. 

 

The other beef I regularly hear about Granlund is that he's soft. I actually agree with that notion for the time being. The kid is still young, and at 6 foot tall does have the potential to pack on a lot more muscle and bulk up from the 170-175 he is currently playing at. His brother is several inches shorter, and 10 to 15 pounds heavier, so I'm confident that Granny has the ability to bulk over the next year or two and possibly reach a 185 or 190 playing weight. If he could manage that on a 6 foot frame that is a respectable figure to be playing at for his skill set. 

 

The final thing that excites me about Granny is 'the Benning factor'. I trust in Benning's scouting and his judgement on a players potential. I honestly don't think that Jim would trade a player who clearly had top 6 potential,  for a player that he didn't believe had that potential. We are obviously currently set in our top 3 centers. But the future does seem more uncertain with the McCann trade. I think that Granlund has the potential to be a top 6 forward if we don't pick up Dubois, or Stamkos. With a physical winger like Tkachuck or Virt, if his play making ability develops he could be an affective top 6 forward. Obviously his potential and ceiling is more likely a real good 3rd line center, but I think Benning at least projects Granny of having the potential to reach a higher ceiling. 

 

All in all I'm excited to watch our Finn develop over the next couple years into, what I can only hope, is a real good player

 

 

 

Granlund played mostly C2 to Bennett and Hudler.  He also played C3 with Hudler from mid-Jan onwards.  It's only towards the end of the season, when Granlund had already been moved, that Bennett played C.  Granlund was in an offensive role with zone starts of over 60%.

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Need to see him beat Zalewski for the job first before I get excited. Actually, I wouldn't be upset if they both made the squad in that 4th line C role, but, it's Zalewski who I've got my eye on. 

 

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On June 10, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Fakename70 said:

Need to see him beat Zalewski for the job first before I get excited. Actually, I wouldn't be upset if they both made the squad in that 4th line C role, but, it's Zalewski who I've got my eye on. 

 

Politics will come into play and Grandlund will be given a spot. If it was down to him and Zalekski, Canucks would keep Grandlund. They have invested a former 1st round pick for him.

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On May 30, 2016 at 7:59 AM, thejazz97 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Granlund got benched for a game or two before December.

worked for Baer.

 

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Zalewski could be one of the first call ups unless like said he works harder for a spot or to be moved.Benning loves draft day and Trade deadline,so he has to make a couple deals so we free up spots and get more picks as he has traded away to many so far!

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On 6/10/2016 at 3:02 PM, Fakename70 said:

Need to see him beat Zalewski for the job first before I get excited. Actually, I wouldn't be upset if they both made the squad in that 4th line C role, but, it's Zalewski who I've got my eye on. 

 

Zalewski is a career AHL'er 

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12 hours ago, The 5th Line said:

Zalewski is a career AHL'er 

I think the same could've been said of Biega before his contract extension, no?

Then, Granlund shouldn't have any trouble disposing of him for the job in training camp, right?

We'll see...

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i can see granlund eventually being a 3rd line centre or winger...we haven't seen all of him yet...my guess he will grow in his ability, closer to what his brother is...i like his brother's game...

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On 17/06/2016 at 0:01 PM, The 5th Line said:

Zalewski is a career AHL'er 

So is Granlund.  No sense in having him waste more overtime icetime.

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8 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

So is Granlund.  No sense in having him waste more overtime icetime.

We currently have a few of these level players:

Vey?

Pedan?

Baer?

?

?

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

We currently have a few of these level players:

Vey?

Pedan?

Baer?

?

?

Are you saying Baertschi is a career AHLer? 

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2 hours ago, Alflives said:

We currently have a few of these level players:

Vey?

Pedan?

Baer?

?

?

 

7 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Are you saying Baertschi is a career AHLer? 

Surely he jests :blink:
 
People sure like trashing Granny; he was barely there for a blip last season. Give the boy a chance.

Wrong thread, but I wouldn't call Pedan a career AHLer either. He's got chops, but is just too low on the Canucks depth chart. I'm sure Edmonton would be happy to have him. Vey I'll reserve judgement for until his family issues calm down. Baer is meant for the big club.

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1 hour ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said:

 

Surely he jests :blink:
 
People sure like trashing Granny; he was barely there for a blip last season. Give the boy a chance.

Wrong thread, but I wouldn't call Pedan a career AHLer either. He's got chops, but is just too low on the Canucks depth chart. I'm sure Edmonton would be happy to have him. Vey I'll reserve judgement for until his family issues calm down. Baer is meant for the big club.

Yeah, these guys are brutal around here.  Granlund is just 23 yrs old (not even close to his prime) and there are only 12 forwards in his draft that have better stats so far. He only played 16 games for the Canucks, but showed he is a great playmaker who is a good passer and solid hockey sense at both ends of the ice.  From what I saw last season, the Canucks are short on his kind of skills.  Unless JB picks up another C, he will be the 4th C.

 

Enough already about Pedan as well.  He's just 22 yrs old.  Do people not realize how long it takes dmen to mature?  Some people seem to think these late rounders should develop as quickly as a top10 pick.  Fans need to have more patience with these guys.

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