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I would like to see Granlund next to Sutter and then Gaunce as 4th C.

 

Granny has shown that he can make plays on a PP. He shows some chemistry on the 2nd unit PP with Sven here and there but that, I think, is where he should only be playing with Sven.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:

I would like to see Granlund next to Sutter and then Gaunce as 4th C.

 

Granny has shown that he can make plays on a PP. He shows some chemistry on the 2nd unit PP with Sven here and there but that, I think, is where he should only be playing with Sven.

 

 

1st game last night so a few games of experimenting is in order. There is more coaching here than fans are crediting. Horvat gets to C two vets and yet gets PP and PK time. I want Gaunce to stick and if that means playing wing to shelter his intro then that is fine with me. IMHO trying to build a dominant 2nd line is a season or two away unless a couple in the bottom 9 really stand out. AT some point that probably happens. With the current line ups WD can match lines on home ice which IMO gave Clouston some problems last night.

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4 hours ago, Boudrias said:

1st game last night so a few games of experimenting is in order. There is more coaching here than fans are crediting. Horvat gets to C two vets and yet gets PP and PK time. I want Gaunce to stick and if that means playing wing to shelter his intro then that is fine with me. IMHO trying to build a dominant 2nd line is a season or two away unless a couple in the bottom 9 really stand out. AT some point that probably happens. With the current line ups WD can match lines on home ice which IMO gave Clouston some problems last night.

True that having the Bo line out against Monahan and Gaudreau is possible and effective at home.  On the road, they likely just draw the other team's 4th line, which is a bit of a waste unless they can score themselves.  So if these lines shift once we go on the road, I'd give the coaching more credit for what they're doing right now. 

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Granlund had a great game tonight, the Shinkaruk trade looks better and better each game!

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On October 3, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Blömqvist said:

Granlund skating alongside Sutter and Rodin on the top line tonight. I'm hoping he can showcase his offensive ability by setting up Rodin who has the hot hand so far this preseason.

 

Heck, looking ahead if he plays well with Sutter could have 3 really good lines:

 

Daniel - Henrik - Eriksson

Baertschi - Horvat - Rodin/Hansen

Granlund - Sutter - Hansen/Rodin

Labate/Virtanen/PTO - Gaunce - Dorsett

Burrows

 

Nailed it. Sort of.. haha!

 

That trio of Granlund, Sutter, and Hansen looked really good tonight. Lots of speed and and generated several high quality scoring chances. 

 

IMO I think most of us, including myself, have mislabelled Granlund as a 4th line checking centre and nothing more after Benning praised Granlund for his two-way game and after Desjardins used him in that 4C spot.

 

It's like most of us forgot about his scoring stats from the different levels of competition he played in: he captained the gold medal winning Finnish U18 team and scored 10 points in 6 tournament games; 34 points in 47 games as an 18 year old in the Finnish men's league; 7 points in 7 games in his first WJC as an 18 year old; this was followed by 12 points in 6 games at the WJC the following year as a 19 year old; then in his first year in the AHL as a 20 year old he scores 46 points in 52 games, with a total of 72 points in 85 career AHL games. By comparison, Shinkaruk has 83 points in 137 career AHL games.

 

Markus Granlund just needed to get quicker and stronger to adjust to the NHL level physicality and pace. It looks like with his offseason training he did just that, now he has to put it together consistently. He has the skillset, the smarts, and the two-way ability to be a really good middle 6 if not top 6 player.

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7 hours ago, Blömqvist said:

 

Nailed it. Sort of.. haha!

 

That trio of Granlund, Sutter, and Hansen looked really good tonight. Lots of speed and and generated several high quality scoring chances. 

 

IMO I think most of us, including myself, have mislabelled Granlund as a 4th line checking centre and nothing more after Benning praised Granlund for his two-way game and after Desjardins used him in that 4C spot.

 

It's like most of us forgot about his scoring stats from the different levels of competition he played in: he captained the gold medal winning Finnish U18 team and scored 10 points in 6 tournament games; 34 points in 47 games as an 18 year old in the Finnish men's league; 7 points in 7 games in his first WJC as an 18 year old; this was followed by 12 points in 6 games at the WJC the following year as a 19 year old; then in his first year in the AHL as a 20 year old he scores 46 points in 52 games, with a total of 72 points in 85 career AHL games. By comparison, Shinkaruk has 83 points in 137 career AHL games.

 

Markus Granlund just needed to get quicker and stronger to adjust to the NHL level physicality and pace. It looks like with his offseason training he did just that, now he has to put it together consistently. He has the skillset, the smarts, and the two-way ability to be a really good middle 6 if not top 6 player.

I thought Granlund was the weakest of the three. I say that because of the number of times he hit the ice. That said his positioning was usually there. I thought Hansen should have got a star last night. He was absolutely flying and set up his team mates numerous times.  

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Granlund / Sutter / Hansen could be the surprise of the year, with Baertschi / Horvat / Rodin also providing secondary scoring

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46 minutes ago, Hectic said:

Granlund / Sutter / Hansen could be the surprise of the year, with Baertschi / Horvat / Rodin also providing secondary scoring

 

Hopefully the Granlund / Sutter / Hansen trio can keep up the consistency. Sutter and Hansen are notable streaky scorers but if they and Granlund can keep their 200 ft-game consistent then at least they'll provide that matchup line that WD wants and get a few high quality scoring chances each game too.

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15 hours ago, Blömqvist said:

 

Nailed it. Sort of.. haha!

 

That trio of Granlund, Sutter, and Hansen looked really good tonight. Lots of speed and and generated several high quality scoring chances. 

 

IMO I think most of us, including myself, have mislabelled Granlund as a 4th line checking centre and nothing more after Benning praised Granlund for his two-way game and after Desjardins used him in that 4C spot.

 

It's like most of us forgot about his scoring stats from the different levels of competition he played in: he captained the gold medal winning Finnish U18 team and scored 10 points in 6 tournament games; 34 points in 47 games as an 18 year old in the Finnish men's league; 7 points in 7 games in his first WJC as an 18 year old; this was followed by 12 points in 6 games at the WJC the following year as a 19 year old; then in his first year in the AHL as a 20 year old he scores 46 points in 52 games, with a total of 72 points in 85 career AHL games. By comparison, Shinkaruk has 83 points in 137 career AHL games.

 

Markus Granlund just needed to get quicker and stronger to adjust to the NHL level physicality and pace. It looks like with his offseason training he did just that, now he has to put it together consistently. He has the skillset, the smarts, and the two-way ability to be a really good middle 6 if not top 6 player.

Granlund's U18, WJ and initial seasons in the NHL are very reminiscent of another Markus we traded for. Maybe there are more out there that we can go after. :rolleyes:

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Moving the puck with purpose and confidence. Looking good as a 2 or 3 line wing. Whoda thunk it

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1 hour ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said:

MARKUS granLUND
MARKUS nasLUND
Coincidence??


*Puts on tin foil hat*

Easy to say that at first glance TP..  But Naslund didn't really come to having much confidence in the NHL until he was 24 ish. Even after putting up great numbers in the minors.  I see Granlund along those same lines.

Naslund did not start on the first or second line when he came to Vancouver,. and it was actually Pat Quinn who installed confidence in him from the 4th and 3rd line- up. 

We basically got Naslund for less a player than Shinkarick .

I see Granlund skating, playmaking and back checking far better than Naslund when he arrived.

Of course, you had to be lucky enough to have been alive at that time to witness it..  Maybe you weren't?

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2 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Easy to say that at first glance TP..  But Naslund didn't really come to having much confidence in the NHL until he was 24 ish. Even after putting up great numbers in the minors.  I see Granlund along those same lines.

Naslund did not start on the first or second line when he came to Vancouver,. and it was actually Pat Quinn who installed confidence in him from the 4th and 3rd line- up. 

We basically got Naslund for less a player than Shinkarick .

I see Granlund skating, playmaking and back checking far better than Naslund when he arrived.

Of course, you had to be lucky enough to have been alive at that time to witness it..  Maybe you weren't?

Ahaha I'm just joshin' ya. You know I love Granny. I'm just in awe he's even being mentioned in the same breath as Naslund.

And yes, I was alive during Naslund's day, although I was not a hockey fan at the time.

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7 minutes ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said:

Ahaha I'm just joshin' ya. You know I love Granny. I'm just in awe he's even being mentioned in the same breath as Naslund.

And yes, I was alive during Naslund's day, although I was not a hockey fan at the time.

We have a collection of youth on this team that I can not compare to any time in the Canucks history.

Its nice to see that besides having the skill sets and tool boxes to play on the Canucks, each player has the potential to be much better than they are at this period in time. Add to that, the collection of depth and prospects we have... It's a bright future TP.

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Granlund has been playing amazing. He looks like he has the potential to be a perennial top six player. Definitely someone that I'd love to have on the rebuild we're going through. He's been great - and his chemistry with Hansen makes a really fun line. If only Sutter would pass just a wee bit more.

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1 hour ago, Sedin Brothers said:

Granlund has been playing amazing. He looks like he has the potential to be a perennial top six player. Definitely someone that I'd love to have on the rebuild we're going through. He's been great - and his chemistry with Hansen makes a really fun line. If only Sutter would pass just a wee bit more.

Maybe Benning knew what he was doing all this time after all. lol. 

 

How did Granlund play tonight? 

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12 hours ago, SilentSam said:

Easy to say that at first glance TP..  But Naslund didn't really come to having much confidence in the NHL until he was 24 ish. Even after putting up great numbers in the minors.  I see Granlund along those same lines.

Naslund did not start on the first or second line when he came to Vancouver,. and it was actually Pat Quinn who installed confidence in him from the 4th and 3rd line- up. 

We basically got Naslund for less a player than Shinkarick .

I see Granlund skating, playmaking and back checking far better than Naslund when he arrived.

Of course, you had to be lucky enough to have been alive at that time to witness it..  Maybe you weren't?

 

If he turns out to be even half the player offensively as Naslund while also playing a solid 2 way game....WIN

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12 hours ago, SilentSam said:

We have a collection of youth on this team that I can not compare to any time in the Canucks history.

Its nice to see that besides having the skill sets and tool boxes to play on the Canucks, each player has the potential to be much better than they are at this period in time. Add to that, the collection of depth and prospects we have... It's a bright future TP.

I don't have the same confidence with the forward group but what do I know? Benning has turned the d-core around in a matter of a couple of years. Many equated the non signing of Hamhuis with the Gudbranson acquisition. I had advocated for a Hammer trade for 2 seasons but must admit the Gudbranson early returns are extremely positive. His physicality is settling the whole back end down.

 

When I look at the forward group Benning again has made solid acquistions from a very weak position. My concern is the Twins's shelter the true status. If they are injured or actually retire the impact would be critical. Baer, Granlund, and hopefully Rodin have to produce as a group in the 22 - 26 age group. We will see.

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42 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I don't have the same confidence with the forward group but what do I know? Benning has turned the d-core around in a matter of a couple of years. Many equated the non signing of Hamhuis with the Gudbranson acquisition. I had advocated for a Hammer trade for 2 seasons but must admit the Gudbranson early returns are extremely positive. His physicality is settling the whole back end down.

 

When I look at the forward group Benning again has made solid acquistions from a very weak position. My concern is the Twins's shelter the true status. If they are injured or actually retire the impact would be critical. Baer, Granlund, and hopefully Rodin have to produce as a group in the 22 - 26 age group. We will see.

 

We need to trade/draft/sign a young, future 1C in the next ~year from somewhere and we should be ok IMO. Easier said than done of course :lol:

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