kanucks25 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: A discussion is one thing but your constantly negativity and doom and gloom is another. You seem incapable of having an objective discussion because you focus on the bad constantly. And then you try to call out others for being biased haha. Yeah...ok. Only negative about Gudbranson because he's clearly bad, and this is the Gudbranson thread. What else can I do? Positivity to the point of delusion isn't a great solution, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just now, Duodenum said: We are 16th in goals against in the league, middle of the pack. Sure if we were a top five team his stats would look better. But in order to be one of those we'd need a better dcorps, maybe an upgrade on Gudbranson sure maybe so. I'm not saying he's the best player evah, but the constant ragging on him by the stats set is tiresome, and some of the recent stuff by JD Burke is just downright insulting and gutless imo. Guddy's been good before, if we get him the right partner he'll be good again. Thats good enough for me, given where this team is at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I think Hughes will look good with Gudbranson and Guddy can also protect him on the ice. I'd really like to see that pairing either this year or next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: sure maybe so. I'm not saying he's the best player evah, but the constant ragging on him by the stats set is tiresome, and some of the recent stuff by JD Burke is just downright insulting and gutless imo. Guddy's been good before, if we get him the right partner he'll be good again. Thats good enough for me, given where this team is at. Can you link or pm me what he said? I don't have a subscription to the athletic. The 2nd paragraph is where we differ, I think the speed of the game has passed him by and you can only hope to hide his deficiencies at this point, but he won't be good again. Edited February 8, 2019 by Duodenum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Can you link or pm me what he said? I don't have a subscription to the athletic. The 2nd paragraph is where we differ, I think the speed of the game has passed him by and you can only hope to hide his deficiencies at this point, but he won't be good again. I also don't agree with this whole tailoring partners for players who have been in the league as long as he has. He was the one who in his first season told us that Hutton needed 300 games of experience before he would get the NHL didn't he? I think there are going to be 5 more defencemen playing more minutes on this team than EG next season, so I don't think finding him a partner will be a prioirty. Travis already seems to be getting it and is slashing his time on ice drastically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Only negative about Gudbranson because he's clearly bad, and this is the Gudbranson thread. What else can I do? Positivity to the point of delusion isn't a great solution, either. Guddy is what he is. A big tough 6th D man. Play him with a half decent #5 and there you go. Analysis complete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, Duodenum said: But in order to be one of those we'd need a better dcorps, maybe an upgrade on Gudbranson As we discussed previously, that problem will be solved by upgrading the top of the dcore, not the middle or bottom. 6 minutes ago, Zhukini said: I also don't agree with this whole tailoring partners for players who have been in the league as long as he has. It's not about 'tailoring' anything. It's about putting the players you've acquired, for a reason, in to positions to succeed. Due to a lack of suitable options beyond Edler, we've thus far been unable to do so with EG. That's not on him, that's on management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyndall2 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 So if Hughes signs and gets called up to the Canucks who do you pair him with? I would send him to Utica for a few games but I am not Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: As we discussed previously, that problem will be solved by upgrading the top of the dcore, not the middle or bottom. It's not about 'tailoring' anything. It's about putting the players you've acquired, for a reason, in to positions to succeed. Due to a lack of suitable options beyond Edler, we've thus far been unable to do so with EG. That's not on him, that's on management. Which should be sorted out fairly soon. Edited February 8, 2019 by PhillipBlunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: I think Hughes will look good with Gudbranson and Guddy can also protect him on the ice. I'd really like to see that pairing either this year or next... Nashville moved Weber because they noticed that in the playoffs they were spending more time defending than attacking. Anaheim confirmed that they were keying in on Josi because they knew Weber wouldn't skate the puck out. They couldn't get out of their zone. I am not sure that Gudbranson will help Hughes for those reasons. Weber also has a very good 1st pass while Gudbranson does not - he is too hesitant and too slow at moving the puck. It gives too much room for opponents to get ready. More and more teams are talking about the importance of going up ice quickly and avoiding D to D passing. Klingberg during the playoffs vs the Wild a few years ago was saying it's old school to have a PMD with a defensive D. He was saying that he by far prefers playing with a skilled D with whom he can make plays and play keep away. The Wild were unable to get the puck back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tyndall2 said: So if Hughes signs and gets called up to the Canucks who do you pair him with? I would send him to Utica for a few games but I am not Benning. Right now? Probably Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Right now? Probably Tanev. Hughes - Tanev Edler - Gudbranson Hutton - Stecher That's a nice looking defense. Pouliot free! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Hughes - Tanev Edler - Gudbranson Hutton - Stecher That's a nice looking defense. Pouliot free! Hell, IMO Brisebois should be playing over Biega so who the hell knows what Green/Baumer will do but your (and @Jimmy McGill's) pairings theoretically make the most sense IMO with current personnel. Edited February 8, 2019 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, aGENT said: As we discussed previously, that problem will be solved by upgrading the top of the dcore, not the middle or bottom. It's not about 'tailoring' anything. It's about putting the players you've acquired, for a reason, in to positions to succeed. Due to a lack of suitable options beyond Edler, we've thus far been unable to do so with EG. That's not on him, that's on management. Call it what you will, an upgrade at the top pushes Tanev and Stecher down and Gudbranson out of the line-up. Upgrade on Gudbranson complete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Duodenum said: Call it what you will, an upgrade at the top pushes Tanev and Stecher down and Gudbranson out of the line-up. Upgrade on Gudbranson complete. Doubt he'd be out FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 40 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Can you link or pm me what he said? I don't have a subscription to the athletic. The 2nd paragraph is where we differ, I think the speed of the game has passed him by and you can only hope to hide his deficiencies at this point, but he won't be good again. this is it: https://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040/burke-can-make-legitimate-case-gudbranson-is-worst-defenseman-in-nhl-1.1247239 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Honestly, Gudbranson is just kinda super wack. He would have been a franchise defender in 2002. It's not 2002 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikhguy23 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, BananaMash said: Honestly, Gudbranson is just kinda super wack. He would have been a franchise defender in 2002. It's not 2002 anymore. Come back to this thread after the Flames game tomorrow, and see how everyone changes their tune again. He's a solid 4-6 D especially for a team in the playoffs. I hope he is still around the next time we make the playoffs (this/next year). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, BananaMash said: Honestly, Gudbranson is just kinda super wack. He would have been a franchise defender in 2002. It's not 2002 anymore. Super wack?..........NARC! Everyone, BananaMash is a NARC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Sikhguy23 said: Come back to this thread after the Flames game tomorrow, and see how everyone changes their tune again. He's a solid 4-6 D especially for a team in the playoffs. I hope he is still around the next time we make the playoffs (this/next year). I have a feeling I will still not like his play, to tell you the truth. I have to have a player I hate every year or else the rest of my magic dries up, this year is Gudbranson's turn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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