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3 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said:

Brutal not to stand by your pick. Sure the 2nd rounder is probably comparable to what Bleackley has done, but the compensation pick is not meant to be used this way. If there was a general disagreement between both parties or Bleackley wouldn't sign, then i'd say go for the pick, but choosing not to, in order to land a 2nd is just shady. 

 

I'm not a fan of this move.

True, but loopholes go both ways. See recent players from College, choosing to go to Free Agency instead of the team that has invested in them through the draft and development camps.

 

Is what it is, ultimately, the NHL is a business.

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3 hours ago, Jägermeister said:

People are missing the fact that Arizona just recently traded for Bleackley in the Mikkel Boedker deal.

This isn't the "whoops we messed up" fallback plan that some people seem to be thinking it is.

They likely knew all along that they weren't going to sign him after they traded for him.

Yep. Patrick White was traded to SJ, in exchange of Ehrhoff. SJ didn't end up signing White (a former 1st rounder), which led them to get a compensatory pick instead.

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Would be funny to see the 'Yotes select him in the later rounds of the draft (not sure if that would be allowed?) and basically receive a 2nd round pick as compensation for free.

 

Obviously very slim chance it happens, but would be cool to see nonetheless.

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I don't understand this. Was it something negotiated in the trade with Colorado, where if he didn't work out they'd get their 2nd round pick for compensation? Or, is it the league that's giving handouts for failed drafting?

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2 hours ago, Canorth said:

I don't understand this. Was it something negotiated in the trade with Colorado, where if he didn't work out they'd get their 2nd round pick for compensation? Or, is it the league that's giving handouts for failed drafting?

Any 1st rounder that is not signed, the team that has him gets a 2nd round pick as compensation.

 

That's why San Jose traded us for Patrick White. He had no value as a player, but was essentially a 2nd round pick in waiting.

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3 minutes ago, D-Money said:

Any 1st rounder that is not signed, the team that has him gets a 2nd round pick as compensation.

 

That's why San Jose traded us for Patrick White. He had no value as a player, but was essentially a 2nd round pick in waiting.

So where does the 2nd round pick come from, there's only 30?

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16 hours ago, HawksFan94 said:

Would be funny to see the 'Yotes select him in the later rounds of the draft (not sure if that would be allowed?) and basically receive a 2nd round pick as compensation for free.

 

Obviously very slim chance it happens, but would be cool to see nonetheless.

Good question, but I'm sure that's not allowed.

 

5 hours ago, dominicanbob said:

If he isn't re-drafted does that mean he is an unrestricted free agent free to sign with any team? 

Yup, as it'd be his final year of draft eligibility he'd become a UFA if undrafted.

 

4 hours ago, Canorth said:

I don't understand this. Was it something negotiated in the trade with Colorado, where if he didn't work out they'd get their 2nd round pick for compensation? Or, is it the league that's giving handouts for failed drafting?

It was covered pretty well earlier on, but it's a rule in place across the NHL where a team that fails to sign a 1st round pick gets compensation of a second round pick. No draft picks from outside the 1st round receive compensation, since obviously there'd be more marginal players.

 

The White example is a good one, but then there was also the case for the Rangers a few years ago where their Russian prospect (forget his name) had a heart attack while playing in the KHL and died. Terrible situation, but the Rangers were protected for the loss of a prospect drafted in the 1st round they hadn't signed yet with a 2nd round pick. They would have much rather had the prospect obviously.

 

And before anyone says (since it came up frequently when the example I mentioned happened), we couldn't receive compensation for Bourdon as we'd already signed him and he actually played NHL games.

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4 minutes ago, Canorth said:

So where does the 2nd round pick come from, there's only 30?

It's added, as an extra pick. If said player was picked 20th overall, the team gets 50th, and the team that had 50th gets bumped to 51st.

 

Compensatory picks are why there aren't just 210 picks every year. Last year we picked Tate Olson at 210th, but there was one more pick after him.

 

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13 minutes ago, D-Money said:

It's added, as an extra pick. If said player was picked 20th overall, the team gets 50th, and the team that had 50th gets bumped to 51st.

 

Compensatory picks are why there aren't just 210 picks every year. Last year we picked Tate Olson at 210th, but there was one more pick after him.

 

It sounds like a very stupid rule.  Colorado should not have picked a guy who couldn't skate in the first place, so Arizona shouldn't have been about to do this.  There are a lot of weird things that occur in the NHL and this is just another to add to ones like Pronger getting paid by a team, while he's working for the league, and the trading of injured players, so teams can get to the Cap floor.  It's stuff that makes the league appear second rate. If your first rounder doesn't work out to be good enough to get signed, then TOO BAD.

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