Psycho_Path Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Probably should have clarified that his problem was getting beat by the faster prospects at the tournament on the opposing teams. Happened multiple times in the games he played 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: I caught a wee bit of the game before work and saw Joulevi a bit. They lost in OT 3-2 Looked like he was playing a conservative style, coaching maybe? Plus the other players are a lot of grown men and veterans. As noted Mark Fraser got 28 minutes to OJ's 23, maybe the coach is sheltering him a bit because of his age. Nevertheless he has 2 goals and 2 assists in 7 playoff games and is a plus 2. I think the minutes were probably more about sheltering Fraser and Berger than sheltering Juolevi. TPS needed to run a top-4 without Tallinder and Eronen. They could have matched up Juolevi and Heikkinen and rode them as a top pair, but then they’d have been left pretty weak on their bottom four. Instead, they had two pairings that were able to eat up over 50 minutes of the game, which was probably a better lineup decision. Like I said earlier today, Olli’s partner (Martin Berger) was a 21 year old who’d averaged only 11 minutes this season. During the playoffs, Berger has played around 16 minutes while TPS’s D has been depleted by injuries. Today it looks like he played 22-23 minutes with Juolevi. And Fraser is a third pairing guy when everyone is healthy. With Juolevi anchoring the second pair (with Berger), it made sense to play Fraser with Heikkinen as a veteran top pairing. Edited April 4, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Psycho_Path said: Probably should have clarified that his problem was getting beat by the faster prospects at the tournament on the opposing teams. Happened multiple times in the games he played Unstructured pond hockey with over the top individualistic play is a bad place to judge defensive players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) When they get beat 1 on 1? I think not. Edit: At 38:50 is at least 1 instance of this happening, though isn't as clear cut as some other times. Edited April 4, 2018 by Psycho_Path 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I think the minutes were probably more about sheltering Fraser and Berger than sheltering Juolevi. TPS needed to run a top-4 without Tallinder and Eronen. They could have matched up Juolevi and Heikkinen and rode them as a top pair, but then they’d have been left pretty weak on their bottom four. Instead, they had two pairings that were able to eat up over 50 minutes of the game, which was probably a better lineup decision. Like I said earlier today, Olli’s partner (Martin Berger) was a 21 year old who’d averaged only 11 minutes this season. During the playoffs, Berger has played around 16 minutes while TPS’s D has been depleted by injuries. Today it looks like he played 22-23 minutes with Juolevi. And Fraser is a third pairing guy when everyone is healthy. With Juolevi anchoring the second pair (with Berger), it made sense to play Fraser with Heikkinen as a veteran top pairing. Oh ok that makes sense. Ah ok injuries... the web page is difficult to read.. seems all the info I find is on betting sites Lol. Thanks Sid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, aGENT said: They're actually only down 2-0, he got confused because they lost game 2 by a score of 3-0. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Game three is gonna be really early (or late depending on your schedule) here is Vancouver. 13:00 start tomorrow in Finland. So 3am here? I get the time conversions wrong on a regular basis. EDIT: actually looks like a 17:00 start So 7am in Vancouver? I think I was looking at the pregame time earlier when they release the official lineups and pregame report. Edited April 6, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Yup, per Liiga.fi: Ottelu alkaa 7.4.2018 klo 17:00 “The match will start on 7.4.2018 at 17:00.” So 7am in Vancouver. Edited April 6, 2018 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Juolevi with a real nice play at the blue line for an assist on a rebound. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyAdams Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Juolevi with a wrister from just inside the blueline on the powerplay that wrang off the post. Had it gone in it would've been his second point of the evening and it would've put his team up 2-0. He's looking good so far. Smooth skating and making good decisions on the powerplay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Looks like Juolevi-Eronen are the first pairing today. Fraser-Heikkinen are second pairing. Olli has averaged 22:27 TOI throughout these playoffs and he likely will play high minutes again by the end of today’s game. He’s really stepping up as TPS’s top D with Tallinder (their veteran #1) out of the lineup. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyAdams Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 TPS loses today due to a last minute goal, and falls to 0-3 in the series Olli had 1 primary assist, and led both teams in TOI with 26:16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Those are Doughty-like minutes. Certainly nice to see he can handle them, especially considering there were some questions surrounding his conditioning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Those are Doughty-like minutes. Certainly nice to see he can handle them, especially considering there were some questions surrounding his conditioning. Even more impressive given he played 4 minutes more than Heikkinen, the next highest in TOI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyAdams Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Those are Doughty-like minutes. Certainly nice to see he can handle them, especially considering there were some questions surrounding his conditioning. He was on the ice for that GWG, and looked gassed Can only ask so much of the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Even more impressive given he played 4 minutes more than Heikkinen, the next highest in TOI. He was mighty impressive as well. I didn't see any real errors made. Tappara had a hell of a time getting anything going offensively with Juolevi on the ice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, GrizzlyAdams said: He was on the ice for that GWG, and looked gassed Can only ask so much of the guy Looked like he was just surprised that the guy got through those first 2 TPS forwards. Just a half second to slow to react and get in the way of the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzlyAdams Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Looked like he was just surprised that the guy got through those first 2 TPS forwards. Just a half second to slow to react and get in the way of the shot. Totally. There's no way that guy should've got through those too forwards and you could tell by his reaction after the goal he was like "guys, really?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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