Olli Juolevi | #48 | D

[ohmy]

Just now, THINKER said:

I have watched the games.  I do so without my homer glasses on.  Funny how you think it's trolling just to have an educated opinion on the subject matter.  

Your a liar its as simple as that. Or maybe you should wear glasses as your eyesight and math seem to be off. Wont waste anymore time on your nonsense. Back under your bridge!

[theo5789]

Gotta love how Juolevi's career is being defined 18 games into a 76 game season as a 20 year old.

[THINKER]

14 minutes ago, ohmy said:

Your a liar its as simple as that. Or maybe you should wear glasses as your eyesight and math seem to be off. Wont waste anymore time on your nonsense. Back under your bridge!

Not a liar at all, but I do get why you would be upset to hear that one of Benning's big draft picks isn't tracking well.  I'm also not the only one who sees this.  Even Botchford stated in one of his Athletties that Juolevi doesn't have much trade value right now, and that a scout he spoke with basically said that Juolevi hasn't developed since his draft year.

 

12 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

Gotta love how Juolevi's career is being defined 18 games into a 76 game season as a 20 year old.

Draft +3 season.  Stop trying to minimize the time period.  

[MoneypuckOverlord]

35 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

Gotta love how Juolevi's career is being defined 18 games into a 76 game season as a 20 year old.

 

he totally ignored the fact he's won a gold medal, top pairing on a gold medal winning team during WJC was the top pairing on a Memorial cup winning team, finished the previous season as the best skater on the London Knights in their hopeless playoff run was TPS Turku's top pairing dman into the playoffs, lead all his dmans in points during the playoffs, lead his current team in the A for points so far,  where ever he's played hes the top pairing guy, it does sound like he needs to work on a few things, I do hope it will come.  Sucks he goes down just when Demko returns. 

 

 

[kenhodgejr]

I was surprised to see so much talk today about Juolevi.

 

now im irritated I read that garbage! 

 

 

[MeanSeanBean]

If you stop feeding the trolls, and they will get bored and go back to hf where they belong.

[Kanukfanatic]

9 hours ago, THINKER said:

No, I'm saying because he's in his Draft +3 season and still has to be sheltered because he's not good defensively and doesn't put up much offense outside of the PP that he's not tracking well.  

 

But I get it.  You don't like people who shed reality on your fantasy.  It's okay to not care about the facts and just hope everything works out.  Just don't get upset at those who discuss reality.  

Go back to hf.

[SingleThorn]

I wonder why CDC ( the 'site', not the posters ) is allowing a troll with a 'go fund me' a/c that is basically anti Canuck to post at all. The reason this troll is here is to gain financial traction for his 'gfm' a/c. Recycle this neanderthal to HF boards please !

[Phat Fingers]

7 hours ago, THINKER said:

Not a liar at all, but I do get why you would be upset to hear that one of Benning's big draft picks isn't tracking well.  I'm also not the only one who sees this.  Even Botchford stated in one of his Athletties that Juolevi doesn't have much trade value right now, and that a scout he spoke with basically said that Juolevi hasn't developed since his draft year.

 

Draft +3 season.  Stop trying to minimize the time period.  

Not even worth a minus.  We have much better trolls on this board.  Go back to to the HF boards or wherever you came from.  Obvious troll is trolling.  

[ForsbergTheGreat]

7 hours ago, THINKER said:

Not a liar at all, but I do get why you would be upset to hear that one of Benning's big draft picks isn't tracking well.  I'm also not the only one who sees this.  Even Botchford stated in one of his Athletties that Juolevi doesn't have much trade value right now, and that a scout he spoke with basically said that Juolevi hasn't developed since his draft year.

 

Draft +3 season.  Stop trying to minimize the time period.  

Here's the thing, While a agree with you that CDC loves to throw out these commonly accepted myths in order to try and minimize concern in regards to our prospects (Myths such as PWF don't develop 22+ OR that D in the top 10 don't typically play NHL games till after their D+3 season, which is/has been easily debunked over and over with factual evidence). 

 

Where I don't agree with you is the conclusion that you are trying to draw from that.  Just because Juolevi has been slower in the typical development path of a top 10 D doesn't mean his outcome is predefined.  Something being the norm doesn't mean there isn't any outliers. I look at Ryan Ellis who didn't start playing in the NHL till his D+3 year or Alex Pietrangelo who never got more than his nine game try out until his D+3 year, they seems to be solid contributing NHL D.  If following the same development path always resulted in the same end result than how come Yak, never panned out like other typical 1st round picks who played in the NHL in their D+1 year.  

Juolevi is his own player, he decides his end result, not Pouliot, not Koekkeok, not Griffin Reinhart. He didn't get to decide what spot he was drafted in so it's not worth holding the 5th overall development path over his head.  Let his take his time to get to where he needs to be.  Benning has already stated it's there intentions in getting him into NHL games this year, which insinuates that they thinks he's close and has been progressing in his development. 

[WeneedLumme]

1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Go back to hf.

 

1 hour ago, Phat Fingers said:

Not even worth a minus.  We have much better trolls on this board.  Go back to to the HF boards or wherever you came from.  Obvious troll is trolling.  

The trolls will not go away if you keep quoting them.

[NHL'er]

17 hours ago, THINKER said:

Also, to touch on your first point: the Canucks have the worst defense in the league over the last 3 years. Let’s not pretend like our defense is too good for him to crack if he were a good prospect.

That's a dumb argument. There are different reasons why young players aren't in the NHL. Some, as you say, because they aren't good enough. Others, because they get much more playing game time, practice time and playing time outside the NHL. Juolevi is a case of the latter, not the former. 

 

We have two crap goaltenders, and I believe Demko could outplay Markstrom right now. But just because we have Demko down playing every game and developing means that Demko is a crap prospect. 

 

Edit: I apologise, by arguing with a moron I have become a moron myself.

Edited December 6, 2018 by NHL'er

[Kootenay Gold]

24 minutes ago, NHL'er said:

I apologise, by arguing with a moron I have become a moron myself.

It is hard not to when they are so "moronic" in their posts! Lol

[combover]

It’s too bad he’s suffered yet another injury that will only set the development back. 

It Sounds like he progressing well, the +/- on a farm team that’s missing it’s starting goaltender for two months doesn’t tell the real story. 

More concerning is his tanev/salo like injury rate before even playing in the nhl. 

 

 

[higgyfan]

3 hours ago, SingleThorn said:

I wonder why CDC ( the 'site', not the posters ) is allowing a troll with a 'go fund me' a/c that is basically anti Canuck to post at all. The reason this troll is here is to gain financial traction for his 'gfm' a/c. Recycle this neanderthal to HF boards please !

What is his gfm for?  A course in moving on from trollerbating?   Maybe he should take up the ukulele or something.

[SingleThorn]

5 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

What is his gfm for?  A course in moving on from trollerbating?   Maybe he should take up the ukulele or something.

I think it's just a 'gfm' that he approves of ( who knows/ cares ). I can't believe that $650 has been donated.

[Darius]

3 minutes ago, SingleThorn said:

I think it's just a 'gfm' that he approves of ( who knows/ cares ). I can't believe that $650 has been donated.

looks like the angry nutjobs in HFBOARDS are trying to start a movement with that GFM.  They are entitled and think their team should be in the running for cup champ every year.  That fact that no GM in the league could have turned that 2013 mess around in less than 5 years is a concept that is beyond the scope of their critical thinking abilities.    But if you ask them, Garrison, Kesler with his juvenile trade demands, and Hamhuis should have been turned into 3 blue chippers and future cup champions.

 

 

[nowhereman]

15 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said:

don't even bother.   

 

Duchebag so called Canuck fans from hfboards.com

 

"We are lucky to even get a 4th round pick for Virtanen! what a horrible pick"

 

so your calling him a bust?

 

"no one's calling him a bust."  

 

It's like saying I didn't say to a (fat girl) she was fat, all i said was she should eat less and do more exercise.   Stop putting words in my mouth.

 

 I don't think he is MS, but it could be any of those random members there.  outright disgraceful.  He fits right in.

 

 

Pleasantly surprised to see other Canucks fans who see HFBoards Canucks for what it really is: a toxic cesspool of pathetic crybabies who demonize and insult anyone who disagrees with them. They’re like a cult, to be honest. 

Edited December 6, 2018 by nowhereman

[Rollieo Del Fuego]

11 hours ago, THINKER said:

Not a liar at all, but I do get why you would be upset to hear that one of Benning's big draft picks isn't tracking well.  I'm also not the only one who sees this.  Even Botchford stated in one of his Athletties that Juolevi doesn't have much trade value right now, and that a scout he spoke with basically said that Juolevi hasn't developed since his draft year.

 

Draft +3 season.  Stop trying to minimize the time period.  

Write all that down on a piece of paper....

 

...and when Oli is in our top 4 next year...and our 2nd best point producing D.man....you can have a feast on those words....!

[gttxc]

10 minutes ago, nowhereman said:

Pleasantly surprised to see other Canucks fans who see HFBoards Canucks for what it really is: a toxic cesspool of pathetic crybabies who demonize and insult anyone who disagrees with them. They’re like a cult, to be honest. 

Haha you have to laugh a little at the irony here.  Just a little.  

 

You must to consider the opinion of someone who is disappointed by OJ’s development.  There is some truth there.  CDC is a discussion board that should be used to find out the truth, not a place where different opinions are harried into retreat.

 

I think joulevi is tracking OKAY.  I’m not putting the blame on anyone because drafting is a bit of a crap shoot.  Players develop at different rates and different ways and he is progressing, which is awesome.  And after seeing the devolpment of virtanen , I am hopeful!