189lb enforcers? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Darius said: Maybe i was jumping the gun a bit Alf. I agree that the kid can turn out to be an excellent top 4. Im assuming a loss here in the sense that Tkachuk is on pace for like 80+ points this year.Right now it looks like its a loss at the draft slot machine that day. There is a lot of uncertainty even when you pick at #5, But we shouldn’t be labelled as haters and trolls for saying that. Not today. Not then. Not later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Who the &^@# you got at the 2017 pick ? I didn’t have anybody that year. It was too close and I didn’t really follow any of them that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: The point is not to hate on someone for having an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: Movin Who the &^@# you got at the 2017 pick ? In 2014 I had Nylander. Jake was my # 2 guy. 2015 was hoping chabot or EK would fall. Can admit I didn’t have Brock on my radar, wasn’t paying too close to the draft that year. 2016 I had sergachev but had OJ as second ahead of MT 2017 I wanted vilardi. Then EP then Middlestadt. Didn’t want makar. I also really wanted chmelevki who fell to the 6th round and right now is looking like a steal. 2018 I wanted Hughes. 2019. Still compiling my list. Hard to know where we are going to pick though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 People really need to get over not picking MT, its getting annoying. At the same time, we can appreciate our pick without putting the other down. MT is outperforming what I thought he would be, so good for him. I also believe Juolevi will be a solid top pairing minute muncher for us in the form of a Lindholm/Edler and he will be a crucial component to completing our team. Hopefully he rebounds well after the injury and makes the team out of camp. Lets go Juju 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Sometimes I forget the Canucks even have this guy in their prospect pool. Pretty sad considering when he was picked. Training with Salo last off season, I guess he learned how to get injured. Hopefully injuries don't follow him throughout his career and he ends up making the NHL one day and becoming a solid Dman. I dropped him 4 spots in my Top Canucks Prospects list. Hughes Demko Gaudette Dahlen DiPietro Woo Juolevi Gadjovich Lind Rathbone Edited January 16, 2019 by NUCKER67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Sometimes I forget the Canucks even have this guy in their prospect pool. Pretty sad considering when he was picked. Training with Salo last off season, I guess he learned how to get injured. Hopefully injuries don't follow him throughout his career and he ends up making the NHL one day and becoming a solid Dman. I dropped him 4 spots in my Top Canucks Prospects list. Hughes Demko Gaudette Dahlen DiPietro Woo Juolevi Gadjovich Lind Rathbone I agree with most of your list other than I would have included McEwen in the middle somewhere. Much further along as a prospect than Gadj. or Lind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Sometimes I forget the Canucks even have this guy in their prospect pool. Pretty sad considering when he was picked. Training with Salo last off season, I guess he learned how to get injured. Hopefully injuries don't follow him throughout his career and he ends up making the NHL one day and becoming a solid Dman. I dropped him 4 spots in my Top Canucks Prospects list. Hughes Demko Gaudette Dahlen DiPietro Woo Juolevi Gadjovich Lind Rathbone Nice list. Rathbone is higher for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Sometimes I forget the Canucks even have this guy in their prospect pool. Pretty sad considering when he was picked. Training with Salo last off season, I guess he learned how to get injured. Hopefully injuries don't follow him throughout his career and he ends up making the NHL one day and becoming a solid Dman. I dropped him 4 spots in my Top Canucks Prospects list. Hughes Demko Gaudette Dahlen DiPietro Woo Juolevi Gadjovich Lind Rathbone The fact we can argue about where some of these prospects should in a top10 list shows the quality of our prospect pool. Juolevi's injury history is very unfortunate, but I still think he has a chance to fight for a spot next year and potentially take it away from Hughes. We have a solid top 15 prospects. 1. Demko 2. Hughes 3. Gaudette 4. Woo 5. Dahlen 6. Juolevi 7. DiPietro 8. MacEwen 9. Lind 10. Madden 11. Rathbone 12. Gadjovich 13. Jasek 14. Lockwood 15. Brisebois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Sooo many of the posts in this thread will age poorly. OJ remains a stud prospect who will have a long and distinguished NHL career. So many seemingly have never watched the guy play or base it one a game or three seen through some feed. The guy was a beast last year in Finland and had found his professional scoring touch in the AHL and the injury happened at a crap time just as the Comets were rounding into form with some other injuries being sorted out and some lineup fixes but some of these posts make him sound like a 30 year old reclamation project. Just like people who capped Horvat as a 2/3 center or discuss Boeser/EP40 in the context of their games today versus the players they will be in two or three more years (after more mental and physical growth). PATIENCE people. Every prospect has their own development pace and sure some surprise and some disappoint but this crazed enthusiasm to draw conclusions, particularly negative ones, on kids before the are even legally able to drink on US road trips is premature beyond logic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted January 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: In 2014 I had Nylander. Jake was my # 2 guy. 2015 was hoping chabot or EK would fall. Can admit I didn’t have Brock on my radar, wasn’t paying too close to the draft that year. 2016 I had sergachev but had OJ as second ahead of MT 2017 I wanted vilardi. Then EP then Middlestadt. Didn’t want makar. I also really wanted chmelevki who fell to the 6th round and right now is looking like a steal. 2018 I wanted Hughes. 2019. Still compiling my list. Hard to know where we are going to pick though. OK, I'll bite (and am on record with all of these anyway). 2014 - Jake, Ritchie or Kapanen were who I thought Canucks should target and who may be available. Had a feeling it would be Jake but was fine with any of the three at the time. 2015 - Was hoping for either Colin White, Travis Konecny or Gabriel Carlsson given draft position with Colin White as my favourite. BB was on my radar as a mid second round pick. I had it somehow that he was too weak a skater for prime time. About as wrong as I have been on a top 25 pick in a long while. 2016 - Dubois, OJ, or Sergachev for me with a big preference for Dubois. Felt that OJ was cream of D crop but thought Sergachev could probably learn the D game and offered more offensive upside. 2017 - it was all about Glass for me....I agree with you re. Makar...didn't want him either. Glass was who I thought would be available and who I really wanted. EP was on my radar but didn't seem like the risk/reward pick that teams I follow typically ever take. The pick grew on me within a few hours when people who know I follow the Canucks and who I respect a great deal in the hockey world started filling my phone with text messages saying "that pick will be the best of the litter in a few years" and similar. They knew more than I did. 2018 - Hughes or Dobson with a preference in my mind for Dobson but REALLY happy with Hughes (who is a bust apparently according to something I read on his page a few days back...headshake). Only one up in that grouping of their picks I didn't want at all was Bouchard. I remain unconvinced he will be mobile enough and WJC did nothing to improve my opinion. 2019 - tough as Canucks could be picking from 1st overall to 16th or so. I would like another Dman into the prospect pool but if a strong two-way C who is dynamic enough to play PP minutes but tenacious enough to eventually become a PK stud, I don't pass that up. So, based upon who I wanted and who Canucks got, seems good that Canucks have Jim Benning rather than me for GM. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: Does hindsight include the routine of getting gang banged in this thread by the superior-fans in here concerning the pick, since day one of this thread, for expressing an unpopular, but qualified opinion of the pick? You do know what hindsight means, right? What a waste of time, agreed. Should have just picked MT and had a star, not a prospect, which I’m sure you’ll see expressed by myself and others in the first 400 pages of this support-group-hug of a thread thread on defending the pick, which has provided the most waste of time posts, ever, in hindsight, as I’ve heard said elsewhere. The ‘what ifs’ game here is a staple pastime for those who seek excuses. I’m not interested. As far as bright horizons go, no, it’s still not so bright on D, but picking OJ over MT hasn’t made it any brighter as of today. The bitching about the D is for others, I wanted the projected clutch power forwards over a #2-4, reliable, but unphysical, Dman. Of all the Dmen available at the top, I’d not have rushed to select OJ, but whatever, that’s all in the back pages here, as are the plethora of insults hurried my way for such a view. The TSN list isn’t a crystal ball, but it is telling, which is a side point in my revisiting this support group’s covered shelter from its past $&!#ting on the opinions of others who at ince disagreed with the pick. Does hindsight with a lust for MT mean you consistently have to arrive in a room use juvenile language to essentially stroke yourself and your ego in front of everyone while skirting around the ever smarmy "told you so" Calm yourself down son. At this point MT looks like the better player so what. He's a Flame and will be costing the Flames some serious cash. OJ is ours and he's still an unknown. But that unknown is still wearing our colours and sitting in rehab right now Meanwhile your smug self congratulatory BS is at the expense of one of OUR prospects who is sitting in rehab. Good for you. You get to say I told you so on a message board. Go get a cookie, exit stage left and pick up your award on the way out 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: But we shouldn’t be labelled as haters and trolls for saying that. Not today. Not then. Not later. Actually yes, now you're earning the moniker. Constantly coming back to rub the entire fan bases nose in it looking for praise cause you had a preference and one of ours is sitting in rehab. You're literally just trolling people now looking for attention. So yes, if the shoe fits feel free to lace it up 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Quote So, based upon who I wanted and who Canucks got, seems good that Canucks have Jim Benning rather than me for GM. @Rob_Zepp Not bad. While JB hasn’t been 100% on picking the “best” player to come out of each first round pick. Where he has separated himself is the Brock and EP picks. Those were homeruns that change the outlook of a team. They also weren’t lock picks that everyone was expecting us to take, he had to go somewhat off the board and trust his scouting staff and in these cases they’ve turned out to be massive wins. This team would look a lot less promising had we taken konecny/carlsson in 2015 and vilardi/glass (despite those still being solid prospects) Edited January 16, 2019 by ForsbergTheGreat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It's amazing how one obnoxious troll can make a whole thread stink like a homeless encampment under a bridge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said: I like OJ. I just wanted BT then. After years of being called a bad-fan hater in here, I’m here to ring the bell and see who shows up. Who the hell is BT and why did you want him before Olli Juolevi in the 2016 draft? DING DING DING Edited January 17, 2019 by Kanukfanatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Kanukfanatic said: Who the hell is BT and why did you want him before Olli Juolevi in the 2016 draft? Clearly the poster means MT. A lot of us here wanted MT, and were dissatisfied when we let him go by. I still like OJ though, and think he’s going to be a key to our next young core. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Great Canucks Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 All 189lb enforcer and the 5th line do in these threads is act stupid then whine like losers when they are rightfully called out on it. They love trashing our prospects, but think they are "telling it like it is." If you don't like being called trolls, don't act like trolls. But please, keep crying about it like you two always do. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Sometimes I forget the Canucks even have this guy in their prospect pool. Pretty sad considering when he was picked. Training with Salo last off season, I guess he learned how to get injured. Hopefully injuries don't follow him throughout his career and he ends up making the NHL one day and becoming a solid Dman. I dropped him 4 spots in my Top Canucks Prospects list. Hughes Demko Gaudette Dahlen DiPietro Woo Juolevi Gadjovich Lind Rathbone Did you forget about Madden or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, The Great Canucks said: All 189lb enforcer and the 5th line do in these threads is act stupid then whine like losers when they are rightfully called out on it. They love trashing our prospects, but think they are "telling it like it is." If you don't like being called trolls, don't act like trolls. But please, keep crying about it like you two always do. I don't know if you seen my question earlier... any idea why the TSN top prospect list no longer has Juolevi in the top 50? I seen a number of guys that were in last years list and still on this years or moved positions either way... but Olli is gone now! Why... is it his play this year or what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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