Popular Post Gurn Posted October 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Fred65 said: I tend to believe that OJ will play but he can't be a 1st round pick https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2016/6/20/11983612/bob-mckenzies-final-2016-nhl-draft-rankings "-The ranking of the top defensemen available has been interesting to watch all spring. McKenzie's list has them like this: 1. Juolevi(6th) 2. Sergachev(9th) 3. Bean(12th) 4. Chychrun(13th) 5. McAvoy(14th) 6. Fabbro(16th)' https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/final-rankings-the-top-120-prospects-for-the-2016-draft "6. Olli Juolevi, D – London Knights (OHL): The frame, the poise, the smoothness – Juolevi is the kind of defenseman the current NHL is built for and it’s only going to tip further in that direction. World junior gold and the Memorial Cup in the same year." https://www.tsn.ca/2016-nhl-central-scouting-rankings-na-skaters-goaltenders-1.470328 Had ollie at 5. So have you called the above people or groups to tell them Ollie can't be a 1st round pick? thanks for the laughs. 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Idk, the anti OJ crowd doesn't respond to reason. They have to hate OJ cause Tkachuk. I wanted chucky but when we picked Oli I was fine with it, he seemed like a solid d prospect that has come great attributes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 How has he played this far? Utica has outscored opponents 24-10. Rafferty has 3 points +8, Teves is +9. Seeing Juolevi at 1 point -3 is a bit concerning. He is the only dman who is a minus as well. +/- is often a useless stat but I would have hoped he would be a part of their early success 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: How has he played this far? Utica has outscored opponents 24-10. Rafferty has 3 points +8, Teves is +9. Seeing Juolevi at 1 point -3 is a bit concerning. He is the only dman who is a minus as well. +/- is often a useless stat but I would have hoped he would be a part of their early success OJ is a lot younger than those guys, plus he’s coming off injury. Add to that he’s still physically maturing. He has a higher ceiling than any of the guys you mentioned, and it’s not even close. Best to wait until OJ is fully recovered and fully mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 11 hours ago, WHL rocks said: I wanted OJ particularly because JB wanted him so bad. He compared OJ to Lidstrom leading up to the draft. Imo Lidstrom was the best Dman after Bobby Orr to have played in the NHL. I really feel like we have a player. Top 4D for sure. Perhaps he can develop into a top pair Dman when he's 25 years old. He's growing. Still lots of time to develop But ya Tkachuk. Would have been sweet if we drafted him. True star in the league. Not easy to be able to have players like Tkachuks on your team. I remember when their father was drafted. Now both sons just as good players. Great bloodlines. They are quite stout. Dad looks like a penguin now. I wanted Sergy but would have been happy with OJ or Chucky. When I was 12 I really wanted a Kuwahara bmx but had to settle for the CCM Mom and Dad gave me for Xmas. It is what it is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said: They are quite stout. Dad looks like a penguin now. I wanted Sergy but would have been happy with OJ or Chucky. When I was 12 I really wanted a Kuwahara bmx but had to settle for the CCM Mom and Dad gave me for Xmas. It is what it is... No way. I wanted a Kuwahara so bad too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Alflives said: OJ is a lot younger than those guys, plus he’s coming off injury. Add to that he’s still physically maturing. He has a higher ceiling than any of the guys you mentioned, and it’s not even close. Best to wait until OJ is fully recovered and fully mature. You still think he is gonna be better than Dahlin? I still have some hopes for OJ...hopefully he can become a 3rd or 2nd pairing D in the NHL. Will have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, canucklehead44 said: How has he played this far? Utica has outscored opponents 24-10. Rafferty has 3 points +8, Teves is +9. Seeing Juolevi at 1 point -3 is a bit concerning. He is the only dman who is a minus as well. +/- is often a useless stat but I would have hoped he would be a part of their early success The guy missed almost and entire season. Can we give him a bit of time, like 20 games before we get concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: You still think he is gonna be better than Dahlin? I still have some hopes for OJ...hopefully he can become a 3rd or 2nd pairing D in the NHL. Will have to wait and see. Better than Dahlin, nope. That's not likely. Hughes could be though. I really want to see this OJ healthy and without rust. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phat Fingers said: Better than Dahlin, nope. That's not likely. Hughes could be though. I really want to see this OJ healthy and without rust. That was for Alf. He was adamant that OJ would be better than Dahlin lol (as per my signature). It was ridiculous then, and even more absurd now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Googlie Posted October 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2019 Today saw Juolevi play his best game yet as a pro. I think I heard the commentator say 7 blocked shots, 2 assists and was a plus 2. Absolute beast on the penalty kill. 2 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: Idk, the anti OJ crowd doesn't respond to reason. They have to hate OJ cause Tkachuk. Actually, if you pay attention to what's being said, the 'anti'-OJ crowd is the one presenting the most reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, 112 said: Actually, if you pay attention to what's being said, the 'anti'-OJ crowd is the one presenting the most reason. Ignoring the consequences of 2 years of limited training, practice and games due to injuries and the effect that can on a prospects development lacks reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Watched the highlights and Juolevi had some sick passes this game. If he manages to get his skating up to NHL level we have a top four TWD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 He might spend the entire year in Utica just to get him more ice time and back in shape. No point in bringing him up to play 12ish minutes or be in the pressbox. Bring up Saunter/Brisebois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hobart16 Posted October 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, WHL rocks said: Have you been following Utica closely? I haven't all that much would like to hear more about his game if you have watched their games. I’m a season ticket holder and saw both games this weekend. The Comets won these games by a combined score of 15-3 so obviously a lot of good things happening and maybe it is easier to play d with 5 goal leads but OJ is getting the top pairing and having no trouble at all defending some pretty good players. Charlotte had some heavy forwards too. Half the time OJ challenged people almost at mid ice and just stopped them cold and turned the puck around, he challenged every time at the blue line again with success. Not flashy and not necessarily a puck carrier type either like Quinn Hughes but jury is still out. He has had serious leg injuries and I think he is rounding into form just now. Looks good on PK and he isn’t going to blast anybody through the boards with hard checks but he also isnt getting pushed around. No no need to panic. Another year from now with a full AHL season with good health under his belt and we will have something for sure. Edited October 20, 2019 by hobart16 4 5 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Ignoring the consequences of 2 years of limited training, practice and games due to injuries and the effect that can on a prospects development lacks reason. Who denies that injuries can affect development? And isn't that a good reason to have tempered expectations for Juolevi? Why are you stating it like it helps his case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, hobart16 said: I’m a season ticket holder and saw both games this weekend. The Comets won these games by a combined score of 15-3 so obviously a lot of good things happening and maybe it is easier to play d with 5 goal leads but OJ is getting the top pairing and having no trouble at all defending some pretty good players. Charlotte had some heavy forwards too. Half the time OJ challenged people almost at mid ice and just stopped them cold and turned the puck around, he challenged every time at the blue line again with success. Not flashy and not necessarily a puck carrier type either like Quinn Hughes but jury is still out. He has had serious leg injuries and I think he is rounding into form just now. Looks good on PK and he isn’t going to blast anybody through the boards with hard checks but he also isnt getting pushed around. No no need to panic. Another year from now with a full AHL season with good health under his belt and we will have something for sure. Thx Every body follow this guy if you want to know how prospects doing. WatchingTMLl BOS game . it's a good game I suggest watch it.. Edited October 20, 2019 by WHL rocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, hobart16 said: I’m a season ticket holder and saw both games this weekend. The Comets won these games by a combined score of 15-3 so obviously a lot of good things happening and maybe it is easier to play d with 5 goal leads but OJ is getting the top pairing and having no trouble at all defending some pretty good players. Charlotte had some heavy forwards too. Half the time OJ challenged people almost at mid ice and just stopped them cold and turned the puck around, he challenged every time at the blue line again with success. Not flashy and not necessarily a puck carrier type either like Quinn Hughes but jury is still out. He has had serious leg injuries and I think he is rounding into form just now. Looks good on PK and he isn’t going to blast anybody through the boards with hard checks but he also isnt getting pushed around. No no need to panic. Another year from now with a full AHL season with good health under his belt and we will have something for sure. Thanks again hobart! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Phat Fingers said: The guy missed almost and entire season. Can we give him a bit of time, like 20 games before we get concerned. Before he was injured last season OJ had the worse +/- in the AHL for a defenseman. I understand the argument about +/- but taken over a course of time ( useless game to game) it shows a tendency and in this case it's not good. I'm fascinated by way folks choose to ignore facts and cling to dreams. On Canuck Way, there was a bunch who couldn't grasp Virtanen's failure, seems like on this forum it's OJ. Every one wants him to do well ( including me ) but if you're a GM for instance, you need to plan and cover the spot for the future. I hope Rafferty, Teves, Woo or Rathbone can come through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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