Captain Canuck #12 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It's a lower body injury and it's serious, my wild guess is ACL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, R.Dahlin26 said: He's a bust. Unfortunately couldn't even manage to play a NHL game 4 seasons after being drafted. Passing on Tkachuk will go down as a Kopitar level miss. Hopefully someone like Rathbone who I'm high on can develop into a top 4 d-man. Did you ever even watch bourdon play? Or are you to young for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Alflives said: JB said it’s not related to the recent surgically repaired knee. My money is it’s his other knee that’s injured now. Love OJ’s size and skill, but seriously doubt he ever plays for us. Yeah, I moved my hopes for next good Canuck defender to Rathbone last year. I also like Teves and Rafferty - Rafferty for his all round play (Utica’s top D scorer), Teves for his strong defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, DS4quality said: I feel like he is the next Chris Tanev in the making if he becomes a Chris tanev I'm sure 98% of us will take it. what pisses me off right now is that they refuse to disclose the injury like they are hiding something. Hire new doctors if they don't know what the &^@# they are talking about! Edited November 17, 2019 by MoneypuckOverlord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22and33 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: if he becomes a Chris tanev I'm sure 98% of us will take it. what pisses me off right now is that they refuse to disclose the injury like they are hiding something. Hire new doctors if they don't know what the &^@# they are talking about! I think it's a bit premature to get worked up over the lack of knowledge about the injury. If they're bringing him back to Vancouver for further evaluation it's most likely so they can learn the full extent of the injury which will require extensive testing. My guess is once they know more we'll know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 14 hours ago, FlyLow_ said: The problem with that pick is it wasn't a swing. Many of us wanted a swing, JB probably couldn't have missed if he'd actually taken a swing. What we got was a safe bunt from a GM that hadn't proven much at the time and was really needing a win. OJ was dubbed a safe pick likely to have a long career. It just so happened to be exactly the time to not play it safe. This was at a time when the organization hadn't seen a fast skating, dynamic elite talent in a very long time. It was a fundamental difference of the kind of hockey many of us wanted to see. In JB's defence, he has yet to play it safe again and obviously we all know how he answered back the very next year with EP40 mic drop. I'm not writing OJ off, but he also can't be looked at as a sure thing anymore. Injuries matter. What are you talking about? Joelevi was projected to be a number 2 dman. We desperately needed Dman. Taking a dman so early in the draft is a huge risk. After the next year he was projected to be a top 4 dman. There was absolutely nothing safe about this pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: It's a lower body injury and it's serious, my wild guess is ACL. Don’t know, but guessing it’s his other knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Juolevi is 21 and this right now is important development time for him particularly since he missed most of last season. If he's had another serious injury, you have to wonder if he'll ever turn into the player they hoped when they drafted him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted November 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2019 Can we stop with linking Tkachuk to Juoleivi already? Columbus and Edmonton missed on that pick too if you want to play that game. Something was off for Benning at the combine meeting. We needed defence badly. You can't draft knowing what injuries a person might face. The constant comparison is pointless. 4 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I was thinking the same thing. Our crop of young defenders is significantly weaker than our crop of young forwards. We have a bunch of young defenders that are close to NHL ready in Utica, but none that look like they could make a significant impact if Juolevi continues down this path. The question is which one of our young forwards would you want to trade? It would need to be someone with value if we want a good defenseman back. I have no one in mind, no one likes to trade away young unproven developing players but, just thinking as you, that we might have a similar forward with upswing and another team has a similar defenceman with upswing, and both would like to make a positional player change,, that maybe now it, may be the time to consider making that move if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: I was thinking the same thing. Our crop of young defenders is significantly weaker than our crop of young forwards. We have a bunch of young defenders that are close to NHL ready in Utica, but none that look like they could make a significant impact if Juolevi continues down this path. The question is which one of our young forwards would you want to trade? It would need to be someone with value if we want a good defenseman back. Rathbone, Tryamkin, Woo and Juolevi will all be NHL D. if there health holds up...Rathbone and Juolevi will be top 4 and the other 2 not far behind. I don't think we are too bad off and wouldn't trade a high end forward prospect for a maybe D prospect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Tower Prison Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Unless this is a season ending injury like the one last year, I see no reason to panic. If anything, I hope this injury closes the door on the idea of trading Stetcher. The guy is tenacious, steady and more importantly young enough that he'll be in good condition as the Canucks window for contending continues to open. In terms of the wider discussion about the draft, I think it shows that Benning doesn't really fair too well when he doesn't get the guy that he initially sets his sights on. In 2016, it was pretty common knowledge that the Canucks were targeting Dubois at 5 this year. In 2014, I think it's also pretty common knowledge that the Canucks wanted to trade up for the #2 pick for Sam Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Rathbone, Tryamkin, Woo and Juolevi will all be NHL D. if there health holds up...Rathbone and Juolevi will be top 4 and the other 2 not far behind. I don't think we are too bad off and wouldn't trade a high end forward prospect for a maybe D prospect.... Rathbone and Woo are doing well. Juolevi cannot get healthy so who knows if he ever makes it at this point. Tryamkin is 25 years old and is not a prospect in any sense of the word. We need more D prospects. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 22 hours ago, 112 said: what if he doesn't have a medical degree and can't tell you the prognosis? Then OBVIOUSLY you hire Dr. Mark Recchi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I now have zero faith that OJ will carve out anything that resembles a nice nhl career. Edited November 18, 2019 by 73 Percent 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Clock Tower Prison said: Unless this is a season ending injury like the one last year, I see no reason to panic. If anything, I hope this injury closes the door on the idea of trading Stetcher. The guy is tenacious, steady and more importantly young enough that he'll be in good condition as the Canucks window for contending continues to open. In terms of the wider discussion about the draft, I think it shows that Benning doesn't really fair too well when he doesn't get the guy that he initially sets his sights on. In 2016, it was pretty common knowledge that the Canucks were targeting Dubois at 5 this year. In 2014, I think it's also pretty common knowledge that the Canucks wanted to trade up for the #2 pick for Sam Reinhart. Trading Stecher and replacing him with OJ door was never open.. If anything an upgrade on Stecher. Or upgrade with another 3rd pair D added to the roster is coming at trade deadline if we are in mix for playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, 73 Percent said: I now have zero faith that OJ will carve out anything that resembles a nice nhl career. Hate to say it as well. But my hopes for this young man becoming a steady NHL defender are fading. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, rekker said: Hate to say it as well. But my hopes for this young man becoming a steady NHL defender are fading. same here and a huge supporter of Oli. It's sad I have to try to think of this as a normal thing that happens to many other top 10 players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 It looks more and more like OJ is one of those extremely unlucky prospects that will never get a taste of the big league due to various factors. Who knows how good he can be if not for the injuries? I thought the Canucks coaches could’ve forced the issue at season’s start to keep OJ and let him be the 7th guy here but that boat had sailed. Just give the guy a game, it’s just so sad right now what is happening to OJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Wow, the Salo curse has possibly destroyed his career. So much lost development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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