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1 hour ago, Fred65 said:

Yep, never liked the pick. Selected 5th O/A in the world and deplorable defensive skills and doesn't exactly shine as an offensive star either. This was a 5th O/A pick world wide … are you graspining that fact!, Servachek or McEvoy were far better choices then and now IMO to name but a couple. Good teams can't afford tp throw away top picks. A prime selection wasted. He might yet play but he's not going to be a dominant player.

 

That's a myth that has been debunked a couple of times. I guess mainly in this and the Virtanen thread.

 

1 hour ago, Fred65 said:

Think if we had chosen Servachek or McEvoy the difference this would make to this current team.

 

I'd argue Rafferty is ahead of Juolevi already and from the reports I've read maybe Rathbone too

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...but possibly no EP nor QH...

 

24 minutes ago, Fred65 said:

OK ::D Genuine mistake I thought his name was McEvoy. But in todays Politically correct world I suppose that's a death sentence. I'm guessing you're an elementary school teacher, can't step away from the job :lol:

Not sure what this has got to do with anything...  but, generally speaking, more accuracy and less arbitrariness in a discussion certainly doesn't hurt your credibility and persuasiveness.

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1 hour ago, Fred65 said:

Yep, never liked the pick. Selected 5th O/A in the world and deplorable defensive skills and doesn't exactly shine as an offensive star either. This was a 5th O/A pick world wide … are you graspining that fact!, Servachek or McEvoy were far better choices then and now IMO to name but a couple. Good teams can't afford tp throw away top picks. A prime selection wasted. He might yet play but he's not going to be a dominant player. Think if we had chosen Servachek or McEvoy the difference this would make to this current team.

 

I'd argue Rafferty is ahead of Juolevi already and from the reports I've read maybe Rathbone too

The most successful team of the last decade, the Hawks, drafted Skille at 8 and a D man (I can't remember his name) at 3 while they were rebuilding.  It's okay to have misses, providing the hits compensate for those misses.  I think our hits are really good (Hughe's, Petey, Bess, Demko, etc.)  The core of elite young players is drafted (or traded for, but mostly drafted).  Ours looks really quite good, and we have a lot of young guys coming up soon too, who will supplement that young core.  We are in a good spot for now and the next decade.  

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1 hour ago, The 5th Line said:

I'm just trying to figure out,  is Ville Heinola a Liga legend, considering he put up the same points as Juolevi at 17 as opposed to 20.  It seems to be the go-to any time someone says something bad about OJ's game. 

 

And no I haven't always been against the pick.  I thought PLD was gonna be our guy and was happy with that.    

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man I really liked Heinola at the draft. Would've been happy if we took him at 10th overall and I would've rather had him than Podkolzin. 

 

His season was incredible and he got no real love from scouts, although a knee injury could have played a part in that. 

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49 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The most successful team of the last decade, the Hawks, drafted Skille at 8 and a D man (I can't remember his name) at 3 while they were rebuilding.  It's okay to have misses, providing the hits compensate for those misses.  I think our hits are really good (Hughe's, Petey, Bess, Demko, etc.)  The core of elite young players is drafted (or traded for, but mostly drafted).  Ours looks really quite good, and we have a lot of young guys coming up soon too, who will supplement that young core.  We are in a good spot for now and the next decade.  

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