Popular Post Phat Fingers Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 hours ago, theo5789 said: There's always Podkolzin and his poor development in Russia. If not Podz, then Hogslander is too mean or cocky, Woo doesn't Wow enough, then CDC will freak out about Rathbone potentially going the college FA route etc... It's like 'whack a mole'. 1 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 So strange who doesn't post on this thread when OJ does well.... odd. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phat Fingers said: So strange who doesn't post on this thread when OJ does well.... odd. It’s kind of obvious who the real Canuck’s fans are, isn’t it? We all can have moments of frustration and type negative stuff, but us real fans admit when we’re wrong, and are damned happy about it. The under the bridge dwellers simply change the focus if their hatred. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said: I hope not, I don’t think that would be fair. Since he came back from his last injury he has been more physical, but that is not generally his style - mostly he had been playing a European style of closing on you and limiting your options, but since coming back he has been faster in closing and appears generally more mobile. Now, he does not have the swift, fluid skating of Rafferty - but he does have great vision and quick thinking - especially on attack, and he is reading plays better. He is much more like the guy we saw playing in the world juniors and in the Finnish top pro league. Definitely have my fingers crossed that he can finish this season’s n healthy, then have a great off-season of training- love to see him make the Canucks next year. It would also be interesting to see how paired with Rafferty for a few games still this season - having a few games with our smartest D men in Utica playing together might be illuminating. Exactly! I went into this season simply wanting Joulevi to play a full season and thought his ppg was incidental. He doesn't need NHL games this year. A nice Calder run and as you said a off season building his body. Rafferty on the otherhand can use some NHL games. My fear with the Canucks is that a playoff run short changes the prospects. Playoffs for the Canucks are also valuable but Benning might hang onto players in lieu of trading them to make space for younger prospects. Asset management is becoming more important as Benning now has assets that he can develop or trade. What Benning has accomplished over his tenure is truly impressive. The most depth I have seen in the org in 50 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Dats hockey said: Have you read his stat line the last 10 that’s a pretty good track Not enough hits will be the next stat He had one huge hit last night that drew gasps from the fans and a "WOW" from the broadcast team 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Googlie said: He had one huge hit last night that drew gasps from the fans and a "WOW" from the broadcast team OJ is going to be a nice addition to our top four once he fully matures. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Alflives said: OJ is going to be a nice addition to our top four once he fully matures. I hope so, my two remaining concerns are his health (which has a huge effect on his fitness) and his quickness (top end speed doesn’t matter so much for a defenceman) compared to his first three step quickness (which controls his ability to re-position and close opponents down). His strong virtues are his smarts, his offensive reads, great transition and passing. He seems to be strong enough - had an unusual great hit last night. Maybe that is a harbinger of things to come with being healthy. He sure has the frame to be a strong guy at 6’3” and about 200 pounds - he could probably take another fifteen pounds if it doesn’t affect his mobility. An Edlerish sized D with great smarts and passing sure wouldn’t hurt the Canucks long term prospects - especially if he added in a bit of physicality. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Gaudette Celly said: Meh, more importantly he was +3, and now just -2 for the season. What will there to be to complain about when he gets back to positive? Will he be abandoned as the reigning bustaroo, and if so, who's next on deck? Definitely a good sign he's getting into the positives, with his lack of foot speed it will be interesting to see if he can either get faster or be able to simply be smart enough to defend at the NHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Dats hockey said: Have you read his stat line the last 10 that’s a pretty good track Indeed: The "narrative" is dying a rightful death, same as it did for Jake and his "#brutalIQ". I guess there's still #lazybrock and #skinnypete. I think many of us consider him almost "found money" after all this lost time, but what a difference in the outlook of our D if he's able to come in and be a career solid top-4. 4 1 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BarnBurner Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 That's why I don't complain about our prospects. Each one's an individual that develops at THEIR own pace. Plus, I never understood why someone would constantly whine about something that they have absolutely no control over. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silky mitts Posted January 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2020 Development isn’t linear. Also it wasn’t ever a talent issue with oj just unfortunate health problems . 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) OJ GOAT I WAS WRONG OMG Edited January 18, 2020 by 112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dats hockey Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gaudette Celly said: Indeed: The "narrative" is dying a rightful death, same as it did for Jake and his "#brutalIQ". I guess there's still #lazybrock and #skinnypete. I think many of us consider him almost "found money" after all this lost time, but what a difference in the outlook of our D if he's able to come in and be a career solid top-4. Ovi had a year that he was -35 still made playoff and I don’t think his team was clowning him Edited January 18, 2020 by Dats hockey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Googlie said: He had one huge hit last night that drew gasps from the fans and a "WOW" from the broadcast team Lol I was trying to be funny, clearly not funny. I remember his playoff games in Finland he was pretty chippy if I remember correctly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Definitely a good sign he's getting into the positives, with his lack of foot speed it will be interesting to see if he can either get faster or be able to simply be smart enough to defend at the NHL level. He was taken off the #1 Powerplay yesterday after second time of not holding the puck at the blue line. Second time had to be bailed out by Mikey as he hopelessly lost the foot race back against a speedy Wolfpacker. Beezer replaced him and subsequently he played second unit paired with the speedier Mitch Eliot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, Googlie said: He was taken off the #1 Powerplay yesterday after second time of not holding the puck at the blue line. Second time had to be bailed out by Mikey as he hopelessly lost the foot race back against a speedy Wolfpacker. Beezer replaced him and subsequently he played second unit paired with the speedier Mitch Eliot It's to be expected that his foot speed has been effected by the injuries; especially knee surgery. I've been reviewing the his scouting reports lately and never once did I read anything about his speed being a weakness. Mostly 'smooth skater with good edgework' is what I saw. Nothing awe inspiring, but certainly not considered slow in any way. Hopefully he can regain his leg strength and flexibility, which would help his skating immensely. It will take some time increase his speed (if he can), so in the meantime, he will have to rely on his elite IQ to keep with opposing players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Googlie said: He was taken off the #1 Powerplay yesterday after second time of not holding the puck at the blue line. Second time had to be bailed out by Mikey as he hopelessly lost the foot race back against a speedy Wolfpacker. Beezer replaced him and subsequently he played second unit paired with the speedier Mitch Eliot Sounds like a perfect Edler replacement. Edited January 18, 2020 by 48MPHSlapShot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Sounds like a perfect Edler replacement. Actually, Juolevi seems to be able to get his shots through to the net... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Sounds like a perfect Edler replacement. I know you are joking...but Oli's turning mechanics are bound to be behind everything else with his injuries and his straight ahead speed has always been better than Edler's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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