Ballisticsports. Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: I dont think he is excempt, I believe anything over 2 years pro hockey in NA. Tryamkin might be exempt though. I believe so too, unless he plays a game for us this year (If that is the case, I hope we don't play him this year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: I believe so too, unless he plays a game for us this year (If that is the case, I hope we don't play him this year) does this include playoff, or just regular season games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good question, that I don't have an answer for ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 hours ago, khay said: Right, the draft happens after next season. So he is not exempt. So forward protection is pretty much set already barring any trades: 1. EP 2. Boeser 3. Horvat 4. Miller 5. Gaud 6. Virtanen 7. Toffoli (if re-signed) With Toffoli, Virtanen, and Podkolzin coming, is Boeser trade material for some other team to protect? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: But do you protect Tanev, Myers, and Juolevi? Does Tanev resign. You dont want to waste Dman protection spots on players who are not Top 4 Defensemen. If we have a Dman protection spot open with no for sure top 4 Dman to use it on, we should make a trade to acquire one from a team that cant protect one. This is a pretty smart idea. I guess the cost to acquire such top 4D is going to be larger than what that team has to offer to Seattle to not draft the player. I think a similar scenario was presented with Anaheim Ducks in 2017 expansion draft. Ducks had 3 top 4D in Fowler, Lindholm, Vaatanen, a rising prospect in Theodore and past prime KB3. Bieksa had NMC or NTC that required him to be protected so they had 2 spots left, which they used to protect Lindholm and Fowler, leaving Vaatanen and Theodore unprotected. Ducks eventually traded Theodore in exchange that Vegas picks Stoner (essentially a cap dump). I was actually puzzled by this trade. If Vegas wanted Theodore, they could have just picked him without having to take on Stoner so I felt like Vegas should have been able to get Theodore, which they would have gotten anyways + 2nd/3rd rounder for taking on Stoner's contract. The only explanation I could think of at the time was that Vegas didn't want Vaatanen, they specifically wanted Theodore. Say, teams offered a 1st rounder (or good value trade) for Theodore so Ducks turned around and told Vegas, I'm going to trade Theodore but to stop me from trading him to another team, you take on Stoner. If Vegas was indifferent between Theodore and Vaatanen, then they would have said no in which case, Ducks trade Theodore to some other team and Vegas picks Vaatanen. That would have been a devastating result for then contending team in Ducks to lose 2 top 4D. But luckily for Ducks, Vegas had strong preference towards Theodore and agreed to take on Stoner. Looking back it worked out for Vegas as Theodore was a valuable contributor for their cup run. If Ducks didn't have to protect KB3, they would have protected Lindholm, Fowler, and Theodore and trade Vaatanen for Henrique lol. I wonder which teams will be in the similar situation this time. Nashville is a potential candidate: Josi, Ekholm, Ellis, Fabbro? Carolina: Hamilton, Slavin, Pesce, Skjei, maybe even Fleury? Edited February 29, 2020 by khay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: With Toffoli, Virtanen, and Podkolzin coming, is Boeser trade material for some other team to protect? I disagree. Podkolzin is coming for 2021 season, and if he makes the Canucks right away (i.e., no AHL time), he can slot in for Tanner Pearson on the left side and may even be better to start his NHL career on the third line. Virtanen is probably much effective as a 3rd line winger, think about Chicago's 3rd line in 2010: Ladd, Versteeg, Bolland. We could have ice a great 3rd line with Pod-Gaud-Virt. It's unfair to compare to Chicago, whose scoring from wing position had Hossa, Sharp, and Kane. I think we are missing an elite winger and the best we can do is to compensate by having many quality wingers. Miller-EP-Toffoli Pearson-Horvat-Boeser Podz-Gaud-Virt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ohmy Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 assist for Juolevi tonight for anyone who cares about him in the Juolevi thread. 1 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 We care about hoglander in the OJ thread. And virtanen in the hog thread. Demko in the virtanen thread. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Did Juolevi play today? I didn't see him on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Qwags said: Did Juolevi play today? I didn't see him on the ice. might be injured. that would not surprise me at this point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UFCanuck Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 Yes we could've drafted tkachuk but he probably would've helped us win more games and accelerated our rebuild. So we wouldn't have been picking high enough to get petey or hughes. That pick was a blessing and if Juolevi turns out to be an NHL'er that's an added bonus. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: might be injured. that would not surprise me at this point. He's been in and out alot in the past month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimmy Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Assuming there haven't been any updates (I've checked the news sources), is it too much to ask for a paltry few words from the organization about OJ's absence from the lineup yesterday? I don't need any more than a simple explanation. Hurt, potentially hurt, sick, home sick, resting/maintenance, bored. Just give me some words man! And yes, I understand that there is no obligation for the team to say anything, ever, about anything, unless they are directed by the league to disclose. Maybe all this isn't as mysterious as I make it out to be. Perhaps I'm asking for too much. There are no doubt bigger things to be concerned about in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, zimmy said: Assuming there haven't been any updates (I've checked the news sources), is it too much to ask for a paltry few words from the organization about OJ's absence from the lineup yesterday? I don't need any more than a simple explanation. Hurt, potentially hurt, sick, home sick, resting/maintenance, bored. Just give me some words man! And yes, I understand that there is no obligation for the team to say anything, ever, about anything, unless they are directed by the league to disclose. Maybe all this isn't as mysterious as I make it out to be. Perhaps I'm asking for too much. There are no doubt bigger things to be concerned about in this world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Load Management in the NBA is often utilized to rest healthy players in the hopes to preserve them for the playoffs. What it means to Cull is anyone's guess. I suppose if he called it a 'healthy scratch' or an injury, Nuck fans would start freaking out. I doubt it would be a healthy scratch, as Olli has been playing well and hopefully not some sort of 'hidden' injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khay Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Load Management in the NBA is often utilized to rest healthy players in the hopes to preserve them for the playoffs. What it means to Cull is anyone's guess. I suppose if he called it a 'healthy scratch' or an injury, Nuck fans would start freaking out. I doubt it would be a healthy scratch, as Olli has been playing well and hopefully not some sort of 'hidden' injury. Load management also applies to player coming off a severe injury and has higher risk of sustaining further injury if body is not properly rested. If applies to OJ. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 11 hours ago, playboi19 said: Yes we could've drafted tkachuk but he probably would've helped us win more games and accelerated our rebuild. So we wouldn't have been picking high enough to get petey or hughes. That pick was a blessing and if Juolevi turns out to be an NHL'er that's an added bonus. Nobody said anything about Tkachuk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, khay said: Load management also applies to player coming off a severe injury and has higher risk of sustaining further injury if body is not properly rested. If applies to OJ. This is my thinking. Coming off back and knee injuries (the knee injury which also led to a minor (was it hip?) issue earlier this season, it's not a stretch to imagine they'd want to make sure he's not over doing any of those muscles, joints etc, that the continued strengthening around them is on track etc, etc. He does need to keep playing though. He's a solid 1-2 years behind on his development/play time. Have to strike a balance between that and making sure they're building his body back up to have a long career without one issue leading to another. (All while balancing the negative PR around this player any time he misses a game). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 Aha yes. The load managment excuse. Bright side here. We won't have to worry about protecting him in the expansion draft. Hes protecting himself. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: This is my thinking. Coming off back and knee injuries (the knee injury which also led to a minor (was it hip?) issue earlier this season, it's not a stretch to imagine they'd want to make sure he's not over doing any of those muscles, joints etc, that the continued strengthening around them is on track etc, etc. He does need to keep playing though. He's a solid 1-2 years behind on his development/play time. Have to strike a balance between that and making sure they're building his body back up to have a long career without one issue leading to another. (All while balancing the negative PR around this player any time he misses a game). makes sense. He's also going to get somewhere around 50-55 games this year, so its not like it isn't a productive one for him. They're being careful, which is just fine. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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