austy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: It was a joke. But he has just as much chance of digressing as he does progressing. Digress, verb leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing. "I have digressed a little from my original plan" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, austy said: Digress, verb leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing. "I have digressed a little from my original plan" Lol for some reason I cant think of the word I'm thinking of here. Does not look good on me lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Lol for some reason I cant think of the word I'm thinking of here. Does not look good on me lmao. Regression? I bet his fortnite game is progressing nicely(also a joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Regression? I bet his fortnite game is progressing nicely(also a joke) That's the one! Also lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Hopefully with all the gyms closed he is still able to rehab adequately. Anyone had a similar procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 11:51 AM, VegasCanuck said: I think he's on the Canucks next year. We'll see if I'm right, but I think the Canucks feel that he's developed enough to make the jump now. He has a long way to go, he’ll have to outplay Rafferty, Rathbone, Brisebois, and maybe Tryamkin - cuz that is who he is behind right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/25/2020 at 6:27 AM, Fred65 said: Here's THN view The top ten fallers list at #7 7. OLLI JUOLEVI, D, VANCOUVER CANUCKS (-35)Last year: 66thThis year: not ranked in top 100. Juolevi actually ranked sixth on this list last year, when he’d tumbled from 21st to 66th, and now he’s dropped right out of the top 100, which is disheartening to say the least given the Canucks used 2016’s fifth-overall pick on him. This season, the news isn’t all bad, however. Despite the slide in the ranks, he’s finally been relatively healthy, shaking off a bout of hip soreness and getting 45 games in with AHL Utica, during which he’s been used in all situations. So while the ranking suggests he’s slipping, Juolevi has actually experienced a positive year developmentally simply by staying on the ice and getting his reps in an important role. He turns 22 in May. Plenty of great NHL defensemen have debuted older than that. So we may see Juolevi get there at some point. same publication source that had Casey Mittlestadt ahead of Elias Pettersson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 3 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said: same publication source that had Casey Mittlestadt ahead of Elias Pettersson. Quite a few pundits had Middlestad as the better prospect. I actually recall JB stating at a luncheon stating that CM was a very gifted centre. Middlestad was physically stronger. Tell you what I'd trade OJ for CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: He has a long way to go, he’ll have to outplay Rafferty, Rathbone, Brisebois, and maybe Tryamkin - cuz that is who he is behind right now. In what respects would you say that he is behind the ones you've mentioned? I'd agree that he's behind Tryamkin as he's been playing in the second best league in the world for 3 years. Rafferty is really exciting prospect and it could be argued that he's about even or ahead of Juolevi due to his ability to skate the puck out of trouble. Rathbone is also an excellent prospect, but his own coach feels that he still has some holes in his defensive game, probably needs a year in Utica. Brisebois is also pretty close to NHL ready, is going to be a bottom pairing guy who fills just a defensive role. Juolevi, is relied on for top pairing minutes in Utica and is put out in the most critical times of the game to control the game. Just curious on what your perspective is on him. From my understanding and what Benning has stated, Juolevi was drafted for his ability to settle games down, more than his offensive capabilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 11 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: In what respects would you say that he is behind the ones you've mentioned? I'd agree that he's behind Tryamkin as he's been playing in the second best league in the world for 3 years. Rafferty is really exciting prospect and it could be argued that he's about even or ahead of Juolevi due to his ability to skate the puck out of trouble. Rathbone is also an excellent prospect, but his own coach feels that he still has some holes in his defensive game, probably needs a year in Utica. Brisebois is also pretty close to NHL ready, is going to be a bottom pairing guy who fills just a defensive role. Juolevi, is relied on for top pairing minutes in Utica and is put out in the most critical times of the game to control the game. Just curious on what your perspective is on him. From my understanding and what Benning has stated, Juolevi was drafted for his ability to settle games down, more than his offensive capabilities. Tryamkin and Rafferty are easily ahead of Juolevi and I expect both to be in the Canucks lineup next year. Tryamkin has the physical talent Juolevi doesn't have and Raffterty brings the great skating and offensive talent that Juolevi does not have. Rafftery will be a great compliment to Quinn and can run the second unit powerplay while Tryamkin could be partnered with Myers to make a dynamic twin towers pairing. Rathbone is even a better skater than Rafferty. He looks like Quinn but with a bit more size. He could be a sleeper and could easily become the best 4th round pick in Canucks history. He has a huge ceiling, much higher than Juolevi because of his skating ability. He may need work on his defensive game but Quinn needed work as well and has come a long way just in one year. Brisebois will be a good complimentary 5-6 defenceman who can come in and fill in for injuries or play a regular shift on the 3rd pairing. He's very responsible defensively and is a good skater. Juolevi may have more pure talent than a guy like Brisebois but Juloevi will need to play in the top 4 to be effective. With the defencemen we have coming up I just don't see a role for him on this team, especially with the emergence of Rathbone. Even Jett Woo can have a place on this team as a right shot defenceman who can play on the 3rd pairing and move up the lineup as needed. If I was Benning I would look to see how Rathbone plays in Utica next season. If he is lights out then I think you look at packaging Juolevi with another player like Demko to get that first round draft pick back or to get a top 4 right handed defenceman to replace Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Youre sleeping on Juolevi. I heard he's been working out like a beast. He's twice as fast, eats 20 chickens and 2 cows a day. He's up to 6'10, 287 lbs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Oof, tough list for him to make (I guess injuries definitely factor in).https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/future-watch-2020-the-nhls-top-10-falling-prospects Would anyone consider trading him for Wilde (big, RHD with a hard shot) or Lias Andersson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrCanuck94 Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 On 12/12/2019 at 5:25 PM, MrCanuck94 said: Hi praise from Ryan Johnson about Juolevi today on 650. A summary: - He's been outstanding with handling the situation. - It was hard to lose him after he was having a great year last year. - Off to a great start again. - Playing a ton of minutes. - People here on the west would be pleasantly surprised in the evolution of his game and what he has added to his repertoire. - First guy over the boards on PK, leads team in blocked shots on PK, horse in different areas, part of the PP, does a lot of great things. - The way he moves the puck, his hockey sense is ELITE. - Wasn't sure what was going to happen with hip issue, thankfully it was nothing major. - Olli really enjoys playing the game right now and is thriving and fits into the positive culture of kids that are in Utica. - This is the beset RJ has seen Olli mentally and physically. Just going to remind everyone of what RJ had to say about OJ not too long ago. He's not far off and he definitely has the highest ceiling of all of our d prospects. Elite hockey sense is not thrown around regularly. He just needs to stay healthy. Also, no to trading Olli, I'd say there's a higher potential reward of him just panning out. 1 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead53 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 hours ago, MrCanuck94 said: Just going to remind everyone of what RJ had to say about OJ not too long ago. He's not far off and he definitely has the highest ceiling of all of our d prospects. Elite hockey sense is not thrown around regularly. He just needs to stay healthy. Also, no to trading Olli, I'd say there's a higher potential reward of him just panning out. I would hate to see us trade Olli before giving him a fair chance in the NHL. I really hope for him to be a Tanev replacement to be honest...might be a bit a leap (and I am not holding my breathe) but he seems so underrated by so many...but only until he isn't. I don't think he will ever be the flashy player people expect from a 5th overall but I truly expect him to be a necessary piece (in some capacity) for us when we compete for the cup again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Canucklehead53 said: I would hate to see us trade Olli before giving him a fair chance in the NHL. I really hope for him to be a Tanev replacement to be honest...might be a bit a leap (and I am not holding my breathe) but he seems so underrated by so many...but only until he isn't. I don't think he will ever be the flashy player people expect from a 5th overall but I truly expect him to be a necessary piece (in some capacity) for us when we compete for the cup again He's not a Tanev type of player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post higgyfan Posted March 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, stawns said: He's not a Tanev type of player Well, he is sorta...in injuries. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 19 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Oof, tough list for him to make (I guess injuries definitely factor in).https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/future-watch-2020-the-nhls-top-10-falling-prospects Would anyone consider trading him for Wilde (big, RHD with a hard shot) or Lias Andersson? No. I have been very tough on Juolevi in this thread, but I still remember what I saw of him in the Finnish league and in the world juniors, and I remember him being walked repeatedly in the Youngstars and in his first year in Utica - what was exposed was his pivot - especially to the left attempting to turn with guys going down the boards, and his gap was off (maybe an adjustment to the smaller rink - but the he played junior in the OHL). This year many of those things were cleared up - notably his pivot - but he seemed slow. Injuries can prevent a player getting the best out of himself - especially injuries that affect your training - but Juolevi has a chance to fix that now - and I see that as possible (depending on how injuries have degraded his upside). His greatest virtues are that he is very intelligent (crucial for a D that you want in your top four), he sees the ice very well, he is strong advancing the puck. If his negatives can be cleared up, and he is still young, he could still become that top four guy that almost every team needs - I see him fitting into a good team as a three or four - much like Hamhuis - IF......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Canucklehead53 said: I would hate to see us trade Olli before giving him a fair chance in the NHL. I really hope for him to be a Tanev replacement to be honest...might be a bit a leap (and I am not holding my breathe) but he seems so underrated by so many...but only until he isn't. I don't think he will ever be the flashy player people expect from a 5th overall but I truly expect him to be a necessary piece (in some capacity) for us when we compete for the cup again I think he's more of an Edler replacement. Seems like he's being groomed to take the same type of minutes that he's playing right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Personally, I would like the Canucks to walk away from Fanta and rotate Olli and Jordie on the bottom pairing LHD throughout the season. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 10 hours ago, MrCanuck94 said: Personally, I would like the Canucks to walk away from Fanta and rotate Olli and Jordie on the bottom pairing LHD throughout the season. that would be a good use of Benn's final year, and finally be able to bring OJ into service. Fanta's OK but he's one of those guys that has 1 good game that makes him look like top 6 material, followed by 3 sketchy ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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