cripplereh Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 yes we do but again trades like that happen as GM's want someone and will over pay,we will see another sooner then later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Found it pretty interesting Corey pronman has Juolevi as the 14th best prospect. 2nd dman behind Werenski (12) but ahead of Provorov (18) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, TheHockeyNerds said: Found it pretty interesting Corey pronman has Juolevi as the 14th best prospect. 2nd dman behind Werenski (12) but ahead of Provorov (18) This just in: Juolevi is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Well for me it's simple, do you trust Corey Pronman more than you trust Benning as an assessor of talent that's the question. I'd give JB the nod. Lets be honest half the journalists would need two try's to get their jock strap on the right way Edited August 30, 2016 by Fred65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Fred65 said: Well for me it's simple, do you trust Corey Pronman more than you trust Benning as an assessor of talent that's the question. I'd give JB the nod. Lets be honest half the journalists would need two try's to get their jock strap on the right way Pronman knows his stuff. I think the ranking is for the prospects as a whole and not just last draft where OJ was taken 5th. So to have him ranked that high is a testament to Benning's scouting and talent evaluation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: Pronman knows his stuff. I think the ranking is for the prospects as a whole and not just last draft where OJ was taken 5th. So to have him ranked that high is a testament to Benning's scouting and talent evaluation. This. I'm impressed that he rates Juolevi over Provorov, who's had an extra year of development that went well by any standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Maniwaki Canuck said: This. I'm impressed that he rates Juolevi over Provorov, who's had an extra year of development that went well by any standard. I wonder if Pronman took heavily into consideration WJC, CHL playoffs, and the Memorial Cup performances, and the fact that Juolevi shined in all and at a younger age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJaredMcCann Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I think Pronman mainly ranks players based on what he sees is their potential upside in the NHL (he's got Laine at #1, Matthews #2). Given that it's harder to project how D-men will translate and that their development time is usually longer, he usually ranks Fs higher than Ds. Evidence: No D-men in the top 10, only 3 in the top 20 (Werenski, Juolevi & Provorov). Given this knowledge. I believe it's actually a big positive for Olli to be ranked 14th (even if there are some forwards ahead of him that were picked later than 5th overall). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 As far as I knows the Pronman is from Florida and primarily a baseball guy and only added hockey players later ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Fred65 said: As far as I knows the Pronman is from Florida and primarily a baseball guy and only added hockey players later ???? He's s goof, who works from his parents basement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 22 hours ago, TheHockeyNerds said: Found it pretty interesting Corey pronman has Juolevi as the 14th best prospect. 2nd dman behind Werenski (12) but ahead of Provorov (18) Tried googling around the paywall without luck...where did he rate Tkachuck out of curiosity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Tried googling around the paywall without luck...where did he rate Tkachuck out of curiosity? nvm Edited August 31, 2016 by Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Tried googling around the paywall without luck...where did he rate Tkachuck out of curiosity? Tkachuk was number 9. With that being said pronman said he always ranks D below forwards becuase there so hard to predict there success. That's why no defensemen in the top 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Just now, TheHockeyNerds said: Tkachuk was number 9. With that being said pronman said he always ranks D below forwards becuase there so hard to predict there success. That's why no defensemen in the top 10. And only Provorov and Werenski are ahead of Juolevi. Rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Well on Pronmans list OJ is ahead of Provorov. I'm a huge Canuck and Flyers fan and no way would I put OJ ahead of Provorov but what do I know haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Odd. said: And only Provorov and Werenski are ahead of Juolevi. Rightfully so. Well on Pronmans list OJ is ahead of Provorov. I'm a huge Canuck and Flyers fan and no way would I put OJ ahead of Provorov but what do I know haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 49 minutes ago, TheHockeyNerds said: Well on Pronmans list OJ is ahead of Provorov. I'm a huge Canuck and Flyers fan and no way would I put OJ ahead of Provorov but what do I know haha Oh. I disagree with that too. Provorov should be ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Odd. said: Oh. I disagree with that too. Provorov should be ahead. Why? Juolevi had a dream season. I have no problem with where the two of them are ranked. Pronman is a tool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHockeyNerds Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: Why? Juolevi had a dream season. I have no problem with where the two of them are ranked. Pronman is a tool though. Just that the fact that IP is a better defensemen! Offensively better, and just as high of a hockey iq. Btw he also had a pretty year too. Whl champion, WJ silver medalist and chl dman of the year! That said OJ should be a good one haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 32 minutes ago, TheHockeyNerds said: Just that the fact that IP is a better defensemen! Offensively better, and just as high of a hockey iq. Btw he also had a pretty year too. Whl champion, WJ silver medalist and chl dman of the year! That said OJ should be a good one haha Of course he is he has 1 more year of development than juolevi... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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