aGENT Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, stawns said: Hard not to be pissed at Try now, though. He three a huge monkey wrench into things.......really screwed JB.. You're telling me. I have him (and Nichushkin!) in my fantasy league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Some fans: we want Vilardi! Some fans: we want Glass! Some fans: we want Makar! Benning: the Vancouver Canucks are proud to select from Green Bay of the USHL, Casey Mittelstadt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Some fans: we want Vilardi! Some fans: we want Glass! Some fans: we want Makar! Benning: the Vancouver Canucks are proud to select from Green Bay of the USHL, Casey Mittelstadt lol ...don't...don't....don't say dat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Why no love for Heiskanen? I keep hearing Makar. He is such an unknown and atleast 3 years away. His potential isn't even higher than Miro! My preference is 1. Heiskanen 2. Glass 3. Trade down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Some fans: we want Vilardi! Some fans: we want Glass! Some fans: we want Makar! Benning: the Vancouver Canucks are proud to select from Green Bay of the USHL, Casey Mittelstadt lol YUK!!!!! that's the one guy I DON'T WANT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherG Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Hoping for Vilardi or Makar today. I am not high on Glass, he is a wild card pick imo. Could be a number 1 center, and could just as easily bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Jiggs50 said: Why no love for Heiskanen? I keep hearing Makar. He is such an unknown and atleast 3 years away. His potential isn't even higher than Miro! My preference is 1. Heiskanen 2. Glass 3. Trade down I would be alright with Heiskanen but I think Makar has a better slapshot and wrister and is probably faster and uses his edges like no other skater in this draft...his defending may be more of an unknown given who he was defending.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Why no love for Heiskanen? I keep hearing Makar. He is such an unknown and atleast 3 years away. His potential isn't even higher than Miro! My preference is 1. Heiskanen 2. Glass 3. Trade down Canucks didn't even interview him. Must be something we don't like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BO_Scorvat Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Why no love for Heiskanen? I keep hearing Makar. He is such an unknown and atleast 3 years away. His potential isn't even higher than Miro! My preference is 1. Heiskanen 2. Glass 3. Trade down I think people aren't looking at heiskenen as much because he's a lefty an won't be the guy who runs the pp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, 250Integra said: Canucks didn't even interview him. Must be something we don't like... Someone suggested that he had already interviewed at the World Junior's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, 250Integra said: Canucks didn't even interview him. Must be something we don't like... Yeah our managment loves passing on great players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, BO_Scorvat said: I think people aren't looking at heiskenen as much because he's a lefty an won't be the guy who runs the pp Then they don't know enough about the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: YUK!!!!! that's the one guy I DON'T WANT!!!!! Yeah, I'm super hesitant about him, reminds me a little of McCann, that entitled attitude, and maybe not being too thrilled if drafted by Vancouver. I'd love to get Vilardi. He's a big centre, creates space, can play physical, scores goals, is a playmaker, plays a 200-foot game. Horvat and Vilardi would be a good one-two punch. I actually don't know much about Heiskanen, other than he's similar to Juolevi. I only watched a little video and it didn't blow me away. Just looks like a steady defensive D. I'd rather have a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Barring any moves I think Makar and Heiskanen go 3 and 4 (in some order) unless Colorado moves Duschene. They'll go with best centre available if hes gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I would be alright with Heiskanen but I think Makar has a better slapshot and wrister and is probably faster and uses his edges like no other skater in this draft...his defending may be more of an unknown given who he was defending.... We aren't in a position to gamble on a guy like Makar. Heiskanen is solid imo. I guess we'll see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Qwags said: Thx. One of the few things I've read about him is that he has the highest bust chance, but also the highest ceiling of the draft. Sounds like he's worth the chance. Honestly And I've stated this being my opinion only. I've been a Vees seasont icket holder forever, I watch the rockets maybe 20-30 games a year. I watched some amazing defensemen come from the Okanagan. Makar moves and plays the game like nobody else. When I saw the Doyle cup in Penticton here I was sitting with old Vees alum and almost to a person admitted that Makar moved better and faster than Keith but also still managed to make plays at a far mroe successful rate. Now bear with me, I am NOT saying Makar IS Keith or will be a Keith, I am saying that Keith as a Vee vs Makar at the same age, there was a noticeable difference. Fabbro last year, one of the top D in the draft, no comparison I'd take a risk on makar every time. My opinion only here again. Makar does in fact have the highest boom/bust rate of the D men in the 1st round, but also possiby the highest floor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Why no love for Heiskanen? I keep hearing Makar. He is such an unknown and atleast 3 years away. His potential isn't even higher than Miro! My preference is 1. Heiskanen 2. Glass 3. Trade down 4 minutes ago, BO_Scorvat said: I think people aren't looking at heiskenen as much because he's a lefty an won't be the guy who runs the pp 3 minutes ago, Jiggs50 said: Yeah our managment loves passing on great players Heiskanen will likely be a solid, 2nd pairing D and will probably be NHL ready sooner. He has a high floor and is low risk. That's why re's rated high. IMO, he's the 3rd (maybe even 4th) best D in the draft if you don't mind waiting 3-4 years instead of 1-2. I'd take Liljegrin or Makar before him. I'd call it close on him and Valimaki for 3rd/4th. His ceiling is basically Juolevi's floor IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, J.R. said: Heiskanen will likely be a solid, 2nd pairing D and will probably be NHL ready sooner. He has a high floor and is low risk. That's why re's rated high. IMO, he's the 3rd (maybe even 4th) best D in the draft if you don't mind waiting 3-4 years instead of 1-2. I'd take Liljegrin or Makar before him. I'd call it close on him and Valimaki for 3rd/4th. His ceiling is basically Juolevi's floor IMO. I'd say it was the same thing about Juolevi last year. He was the safest bet. Chychrun, Sergachev, Bean and McAvoy all had higher ceiling but more risk, which is what made Juolevi ranked so high, he was the safest bet but 3-4 years down the road "if" those other player develop and reach their ceilings they'd be ranked higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: I'd say it was the same thing about Juolevi last year. He was the safest bet. Chychrun, Sergachev, Bean and McAvoy all had higher ceiling but more risk, which is what made Juolevi ranked so high, he was the safest bet but 3-4 years down the road "if" those other player develop and reach their ceilings they'd be ranked higher. I think OJ is better but yes, it's similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Honestly And I've stated this being my opinion only. I've been a Vees seasont icket holder forever, I watch the rockets maybe 20-30 games a year. I watched some amazing defensemen come from the Okanagan. Makar moves and plays the game like nobody else. When I saw the Doyle cup in Penticton here I was sitting with old Vees alum and almost to a person admitted that Makar moved better and faster than Keith but also still managed to make plays at a far mroe successful rate. Now bear with me, I am NOT saying Makar IS Keith or will be a Keith, I am saying that Keith as a Vee vs Makar at the same age, there was a noticeable difference. Fabbro last year, one of the top D in the draft, no comparison I'd take a risk on makar every time. My opinion only here again. Makar does in fact have the highest boom/bust rate of the D men in the 1st round, but also possiby the highest floor. Keith never played in the BCHL at the same age, Keith played at 16 & 17 and then went to play in a higher comp in the CCHA during his draft year. Kieth wasn't drafted out of the BCHL. Makar is one of the older players being drafted he's almost 10 months old than someone like Vilardi. Edited June 23, 2017 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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