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1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said:

What is the lesson to players if Louie is sent to Utica - if you sign a big contract, earn it. I see no problem sending out that message, the only players that might bother are ones that have no intention of performing for their money - who the heck would want them anyway.

Yeah, they kind of did that with Gagner. And it worked with him being traded. It really is up to Eriksson to earn that spot. I can't see him playing for the Canucks anymore though. Maybe he goes to Utica and then traded like Gagner?  

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22 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

Yeah, they kind of did that with Gagner. And it worked with him being traded. 

Benning went out of his way to help him out by loaning him to a Comets division rival (so Gagner could be closer to his family).  Gagner still essentially bad mouthed the team anyhow.  Sometimes you can't win.

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On 8/2/2019 at 4:05 PM, Ray_Cathode said:

What is the lesson to players if Louie is sent to Utica - if you sign a big contract, earn it. I see no problem sending out that message, the only players that might bother are ones that have no intention of performing for their money - who the heck would want them anyway.

If anything players who actually care about winning and are team guys will look at this favourably.  No player with any kind of character would want this worthless piece of garbage as a teammate.  Getting rid of him by any means necessary will automatically make the team more appealing just by his absence.

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New interview with Green: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canucks-travis-green-new-additions-boesers-contract-erikssons-issues/

 

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SN: When he does sign, it will be for a big number, which makes Eriksson’s $6-million cap hit more onerous. Were you surprised by what he said at worlds?

Green: What did he say, that we didn’t have trust and see eye to eye?


SN: That you didn’t get along 100 per cent and that you don’t trust him the way his previous coaches did.

Green: I was surprised that it came out publicly. But I’m not surprised that he isn’t happy about certain things. Players are proud — they want to play well and want to have individual success. I understand Loui hasn’t scored as much as he wanted to and maybe played at times as much as he wanted to. I understand that and we’ve discussed that. But it happens a lot (in the NHL). I like to think I have an open-door policy and try to be as honest with players as I can. Loui and I have talked about his play and I know he’s frustrated.


SN: Have you talked to him about what he said?

Green: I haven’t talked to Loui yet. I’m sure we will talk when I see him.


SN: Room for Loui under the salary cap is one issue, but is there still room for him on your team?

Green: Loui, I respect his career. I know he wants to probably play better than he has and have more success for himself. But I still have a job to do. And my job is to put the best team on the ice and play guys I see fit — and not just based on salaries. I want players who will do anything in their power to help the Vancouver Canucks win. That’s all they care about: being a Canuck and helping us win. With the additions of some forwards, we’ve got some tough decisions to make. And he’s no different than any other player coming into camp.

 

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Re-reading what Green said about Loui doesn't reveal much.  I think that people have tried to project their wishes into what he said.

 

  • No surprise that Loui isn't in 100% agreement with his coach and how he has been deployed. 
  • Loui hasn't been performing up to his own expectations and this has been discussed [presumably in exit interviews]. 
  • Players have to earn their ice time regardless of salary and
  • Since they have added some good players, they will have tough decisions to make.

There's nothing new here.  Didn't Green say exactly the same thing last summer?  He isn't throwing anybody under the bus or saying that Loui will be placed on waivers.  It's not really his call anyways.  It's up to Benning and decisions like this will be made at camp.

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3 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

Re-reading what Green said about Loui doesn't reveal much.  I think that people have tried to project their wishes into what he said.

 

  • No surprise that Loui isn't in 100% agreement with his coach and how he has been deployed. 
  • Loui hasn't been performing up to his own expectations and this has been discussed [presumably in exit interviews]. 
  • Players have to earn their ice time regardless of salary and
  • Since they have added some good players, they will have tough decisions to make.

There's nothing new here.  Didn't Green say exactly the same thing last summer?  He isn't throwing anybody under the bus or saying that Loui will be placed on waivers.  It's not really his call anyways.  It's up to Benning and decisions like this will be made at camp.

With Loui’s complaining about his usage under Green going on this last season, I think JB (and Loui’s agent) has been trying trade Loui for a full year.  This summer that’s now public.  I think Loui is learning, through this process where no team wants him, he’s no longer an NHL player.  As this reality further sets into Loui, he will move toward retirement.  He may or may not show up to camp.  However, he will retire before being put on waivers.  

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12 minutes ago, Alflives said:

With Loui’s complaining about his usage under Green going on this last season, I think JB (and Loui’s agent) has been trying trade Loui for a full year.  This summer that’s now public.  I think Loui is learning, through this process where no team wants him, he’s no longer an NHL player.  As this reality further sets into Loui, he will move toward retirement.  He may or may not show up to camp.  However, he will retire before being put on waivers.  

I fully expect Loui to be at camp and play his hardest but will be one of the final cuts which will lead to a domino effect of decisions made by management and Loui's family. 

1. Does he report to Utica?
2. Does he get loaned to an AHL affiliate closer to Dallas?

3. Does he go to Europe if he has a clause in his contract?
4. Does he retire?
5. Does he not show up to AHL allowing for the termination due to breach of his contract?
6. Does he make the team as a 13th forward?

7. Does a strong preseason performance lead to a trade?
There are many avenues Loui and MGMT can take if it is decided he will not be playing for us next season.

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

 I think Loui is learning, through this process where no team wants him, he’s no longer an NHL player.  

I do not agree with this part  Alf.

I believe he could still play in the NHL but not as a top 6 forward and definitely not at 6 mil per year. His current salary and cap hit are what is preventing JB from being able to easily move his contract and not because he is unable to play in the NHL anymore. JB made a big mistake in signing him to that salary and term but I do not hold that against JB as many GM's got taken to the cleaners in the 2016 UFA frenzy; Lucic and Brower just to name a couple of others that were vastly overpaid

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14 minutes ago, Alflives said:

With Loui’s complaining about his usage under Green going on this last season, I think JB (and Loui’s agent) has been trying trade Loui for a full year.  This summer that’s now public.  I think Loui is learning, through this process where no team wants him, he’s no longer an NHL player.  As this reality further sets into Loui, he will move toward retirement.  He may or may not show up to camp.  However, he will retire before being put on waivers.  

Loui still puts up 10 goals every year.  This is his record as a Canuck:

11-13-24

10-13-23

11-18-29

And ya, you might think that he'd be attractive after his bonus was paid on July 15 as a player with half the salary as cap hit but there are no takers.  Still, what if Benning is putting him out there at 50% retained?  $1.5M average for a 10 goal forward who is good on the PK.  All teams pass.

 

I expect him to go on waivers and it looks like nobody will touch him.

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12 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

Loui still puts up 10 goals every year.  This is his record as a Canuck:

11-13-24

10-13-23

11-18-29

And ya, you might think that he'd be attractive after his bonus was paid on July 15 as a player with half the salary as cap hit but there are no takers.  Still, what if Benning is putting him out there at 50% retained?  $1.5M average for a 10 goal forward who is good on the PK.  All teams pass.

 

I expect him to go on waivers and it looks like nobody will touch him.

I do think there are teams where he could score more than that, but it sure seems like this is just going to end up a deal we eat. I can see Jim loaning Loui to the Stars AHL team similar to what he did for Gag's. 

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5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I do think there are teams where he could score more than that, but it sure seems like this is just going to end up a deal we eat. I can see Jim loaning Loui to the Stars AHL team similar to what he did for Gag's. 

I think you raise a good point about the offer to loan Loui to the Dallas AHL team.  Now, would Loui accept any demotion?  Is he going to play in the AHL?  

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35 minutes ago, Alflives said:

I think you raise a good point about the offer to loan Loui to the Dallas AHL team.  Now, would Loui accept any demotion?  Is he going to play in the AHL?  

he probably would report there since its close to his family and at least play out this year. Benning seems like a guy that will treat people as well as possible so I expect that to be the situation. 

 

Plus it might be a real motivator for him to play well. If he goes down there and rips up the AHL and looks like he's a player again he just might be movable. He's 1.025 mil more tradable being in the AHL too, so teams can pick him up as an AHL player to begin with and move him up closer to the end of the year once they've accumulated some cap space and/or injuries. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

I think you raise a good point about the offer to loan Loui to the Dallas AHL team.  Now, would Loui accept any demotion?  Is he going to play in the AHL?  

I wanted to give Loui the benefit of the doubt the past 3 years because he seems like a good teammate and hasn't complained.  But this summer he has the nerve to question the coach.  He has not played hard enough, not scored enough and nowhere near earned his money.  As I understand it he already has $27mil of the $36 he is owed.  This means he has made 9 per season.  A real man would mutually terminate his contract and move on.  He can play somewhere else for 1.5-2.5 mil and not bring down the Canucks anymore than he already has.  I am now on the F@ck Loui wagon.  He should stand up and do the right thing for his team and himself and move on.  He is dead to me!

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On 8/1/2019 at 5:38 PM, King Heffy said:

Finally found footage of Eriksson throwing a hit:

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I though that was him getting hit by some kid

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1 hour ago, Davathor said:

 

I though that was him getting hit by some kid

He was just protecting himself.  Bit of lowbridge though; I agree.

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This echoes my sentiments about Loui: https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/loui-eriksson-s-agent-claims-his-client-s-comments-have-been-blown-out-of-proportion-1.23906685?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

 

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Now Eriksson’s agent, Peter Werner, suggests that Eriksson’s comments have been blown completely out of proportion. In an interview with HockeySverige, Werner went to bat for his client, claiming that the media in Vancouver have made a mountain out of a molehill.

“It feels like a very, very small story has got strange proportions in my world,” said Werner (with help from online translators and a Swedish-to-English dictionary). “From my side everything feels a little strange. I have known Loui since he was 14 years old and in my world he is the world's finest guy.”

Accusations from Canucks fans that Eriksson doesn’t give an honest effort seem to have particularly rankled Werner, as he was quick to emphasize that Eriksson, “works hard, trains hard, and he loves hockey, above all.”

 

Read the entire article via the link provided.

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16 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

I can understand being disappointed in Loui, but I think the idea that he's not putting in a real effort is fiction. Its all getting way too toxic, I hope something resolves soon. 

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