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On ‎8‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 2:29 PM, smithers joe said:

if the coach and gm forgive louie’s comments, than the fans and media, should just let it go. i’m sure louie is liked by the players and coaches. he is frustrated and it  unfortunately came out and spread. i say, give louie a chance to right the ship. 

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imo, JB will continue to try and move him. if he can’t, louie will be given a chance at training camp to make the team. if he doesn’t make the team, JB will do something with him. until then, good luck canucks and good luck louie. 

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On 8/28/2019 at 1:51 PM, -AJ- said:

Wouldn't that be Granlund (or at least it was mentioned in that article that he was one of the two most used players on the PK that are no longer on the team)?  

 

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3 hours ago, smithers joe said:

imo, JB will continue to try and move him. if he can’t, louie will be given a chance at training camp to make the team. if he doesn’t make the team, JB will do something with him. until then, good luck canucks and good luck louie. 

The Canucks will do well in spite of him.  

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1 hour ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Wouldn't that be Granlund (or at least it was mentioned in that article that he was one of the two most used players on the PK that are no longer on the team)?  

 

Most likely, yes.

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14 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Wouldn't that be Granlund (or at least it was mentioned in that article that he was one of the two most used players on the PK that are no longer on the team)?  

 

most games I watched when Granlund was on the PK there were a lot of scoring chances against and goals against...Granlund was mediocre at best. That's why he was not qualified and not on the team. JB upgraded on Granlund with the new additions. Oilers can have him. JB got this one right.

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21 minutes ago, Pete M said:

most games I watched when Granlund was on the PK there were a lot of scoring chances against and goals against...Granlund was mediocre at best. That's why he was not qualified and not on the team. JB upgraded on Granlund with the new additions. Oilers can have him. JB got this one right.

He was definitely upgraded on in the overall sense, but I am a bit worried that we have a lack of penalty killers this year. Someone is going to have to learn the job and if Eriksson isn't around, we'll have a real dearth of PK wingers (obviously we're set at centre). Here are the top PK players by ice time last year:

 

1. Granlund (Gone)

2. Beagle (Centre)

3. Motte (Still around)

4. Eriksson (Might still be around)

5. Sutter (Centre)

6. Schaller (Probably waived/Utica)

7. Roussel (Injured to start)

8. Horvat (Centre)

9. Pearson

10. Pettersson (At this point, we're getting to players who hardly played PK at all last year.)

 

Pearson has a little experience on the PK, so there's a solid chance he gets a role on either unit this year. From what I understand, Motte played a lot, but wasn't that great on the PK. I might be interested in a first unit of Beagle - Pearson and a second unit of Sutter - Motte, assuming that Eriksson is gone. If Eriksson's around, he's easily our best PK forward and bumps Pearson down to the second unit.

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9 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

He was definitely upgraded on in the overall sense, but I am a bit worried that we have a lack of penalty killers this year. Someone is going to have to learn the job and if Eriksson isn't around, we'll have a real dearth of PK wingers (obviously we're set at centre). Here are the top PK players by ice time last year:

 

1. Granlund (Gone)

2. Beagle (Centre)

3. Motte (Still around)

4. Eriksson (Might still be around)

5. Sutter (Centre)

6. Schaller (Probably waived/Utica)

7. Roussel (Injured to start)

8. Horvat (Centre)

9. Pearson

10. Pettersson (At this point, we're getting to players who hardly played PK at all last year.)

 

Pearson has a little experience on the PK, so there's a solid chance he gets a role on either unit this year. From what I understand, Motte played a lot, but wasn't that great on the PK. I might be interested in a first unit of Beagle - Pearson and a second unit of Sutter - Motte, assuming that Eriksson is gone. If Eriksson's around, he's easily our best PK forward and bumps Pearson down to the second unit.

Virtanen's really turned into a responsible defensive forward.  I'd like to see his speed on the PK.

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3 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

Virtanen's really turned into a responsible defensive forward.  I'd like to see his speed on the PK.

Looking at the numbers, he's definitely pretty decent defensively, so it'd be interesting to see if he could learn the role--it'd be very valuable to add another PK option to our team. It's worth noting he has almost no experience with it, so it would be new for him, but he seems to have the tools to be good at it and has shown decent enough defense 5-on-5.

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13 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

He was definitely upgraded on in the overall sense, but I am a bit worried that we have a lack of penalty killers this year. Someone is going to have to learn the job and if Eriksson isn't around, we'll have a real dearth of PK wingers (obviously we're set at centre). Here are the top PK players by ice time last year:

 

1. Granlund (Gone)

2. Beagle (Centre)

3. Motte (Still around)

4. Eriksson (Might still be around)

5. Sutter (Centre)

6. Schaller (Probably waived/Utica)

7. Roussel (Injured to start)

8. Horvat (Centre)

9. Pearson

10. Pettersson (At this point, we're getting to players who hardly played PK at all last year.)

 

Pearson has a little experience on the PK, so there's a solid chance he gets a role on either unit this year. From what I understand, Motte played a lot, but wasn't that great on the PK. I might be interested in a first unit of Beagle - Pearson and a second unit of Sutter - Motte, assuming that Eriksson is gone. If Eriksson's around, he's easily our best PK forward and bumps Pearson down to the second unit.

good point, maybe we need to value that PK ability of Louis' a little more. 

 

Yes I know, 6 million, blah blah.... but we still need guys to do it well. 

 

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52 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

He was definitely upgraded on in the overall sense, but I am a bit worried that we have a lack of penalty killers this year. Someone is going to have to learn the job and if Eriksson isn't around, we'll have a real dearth of PK wingers (obviously we're set at centre). Here are the top PK players by ice time last year:

 

1. Granlund (Gone)

2. Beagle (Centre)

3. Motte (Still around)

4. Eriksson (Might still be around)

5. Sutter (Centre)

6. Schaller (Probably waived/Utica)

7. Roussel (Injured to start)

8. Horvat (Centre)

9. Pearson

10. Pettersson (At this point, we're getting to players who hardly played PK at all last year.)

 

Pearson has a little experience on the PK, so there's a solid chance he gets a role on either unit this year. From what I understand, Motte played a lot, but wasn't that great on the PK. I might be interested in a first unit of Beagle - Pearson and a second unit of Sutter - Motte, assuming that Eriksson is gone. If Eriksson's around, he's easily our best PK forward and bumps Pearson down to the second unit.

Sutter, Beagle, Miller, Motte, Horvat, Pearson, Leivo?, JV?...looks good if injury do not prevail...tbh, Granlund is very replaceable.

LE if he is on the team.

PK should be better with the new additions on "D" to support the forwards.

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This year is going to be good....in fact, even considering going to the preseason game and home opener in Cowtown. However, it would be good to know the lineup for the preseason game...

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We still want him on our PK just because he's really good at it?

Did we forget that he threw Green, Benning, the team, Vancouver, BC, Canada, puppies, and kittens under the bus? (Stamps foot in childish anger)

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

good point, maybe we need to value that PK ability of Louis' a little more. 

 

Yes I know, 6 million, blah blah.... but we still need guys to do it well. 

 

If he brought ANYTHING else to the table... sure.

 

Between Sutter, Beagle, Motte, Leivo, Pearson, Horvat, Virtanen, Roussel when he's back, Miller etc, etc I'm pretty sure we can fill out a couple competent PK squads. Eriksson or not.

 

Eriksson's got an up hill battle to show he's worth a roster spot over younger, cheaper, more valuable players.

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32 minutes ago, aGENT said:

If he brought ANYTHING else to the table... sure.

 

Between Sutter, Beagle, Motte, Leivo, Pearson, Horvat, Virtanen, Roussel when he's back, Miller etc, etc I'm pretty sure we can fill out a couple competent PK squads. Eriksson or not.

 

Eriksson's got an up hill battle to show he's worth a roster spot over younger, cheaper, more valuable players.

Absolutely. If we don't have any injuries during pre-season and training camp then he is in a bad spot. He doesn't really fit with how we want our bottom six to play. Can he incorporate a more physical aspect into his game at this stage of his career? Unlikely.

We also have Baertschi, Virtanen, and Leivo that can step into the top 6 if we have any injuries to our top end forwards. His contract sucks or he would probably have been traded. It would be crappy if we lost a depth guy because Loui's salary is onerous even if we demote him. If he could regain some form then we could trade him down the road I guess.

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1 hour ago, aGENT said:

If he brought ANYTHING else to the table... sure.

 

Between Sutter, Beagle, Motte, Leivo, Pearson, Horvat, Virtanen, Roussel when he's back, Miller etc, etc I'm pretty sure we can fill out a couple competent PK squads. Eriksson or not.

 

Eriksson's got an up hill battle to show he's worth a roster spot over younger, cheaper, more valuable players.

well now you're talking like he brings zero points. Yeah he's redundant, but with Roussel injured there might be an actual need for him at the moment in that specialist PK role, and maybe even on PP2. 

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I'd rather have Lievo and Virtanten (who has speed for SH goals!) kill penalties. Ferland and Miller should get a look at PK.

Gaudette should be given a long look at PK.  We've got Sutter back and we get Roussell back by xmas who both will help the PK.

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2 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

well now you're talking like he brings zero points. Yeah he's redundant, but with Roussel injured there might be an actual need for him at the moment in that specialist PK role, and maybe even on PP2. 

No, I'm talking like he's a guy whom has shown for 3 years that he isn't good enough for the top 6, isn't gritty enough for the bottom 6 and is not clearly better than a plethora of younger, cheaper, more valuable players who we'd rather not risk on waivers in favor of him  (who is basically zero risk on waivers). His only saving grace you guys are able to come up with is that he's 'like good on the PK n'stuff'.

 

He's going to have to do a LOT better than that come camp if he hopes to not be demoted to Utica.

 

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1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said:

I'd rather have Lievo and Virtanten (who has speed for SH goals!) kill penalties. Ferland and Miller should get a look at PK.

Gaudette should be given a long look at PK.  We've got Sutter back and we get Roussell back by xmas who both will help the PK.

Virtanen and Leivo have almost zero experience on the PK. Virtanen has shown some decent two-way play in 5-on-5, so he might work out, but Leivo hasn't shown too much in the way of defense yet, so I'd be wary of throwing him into that role. Gaudette is horrible defensively right now. Until he improves, I'd want him as far away from the PK as possible (I do hope he can eventually fill that role though).

 

Ferland played only 99 seconds of PK time in all 71 games last year, and played similar amounts in Calgary so he too has almost no PK experience. Miller has a bit more experience, but going by his numbers, he's probably more of an injury replacement penalty killer than a regular two units guy.

 

Outside of Eriksson, all we have is Motte, who has some experience, but is spotty, Pearson, who only started PK duties last year with Vancouver, and Roussel, who is injured until later in the year. Beyond that, we have a cluster of forwards who have at best dabbled into the work of penalty killing and at worst had only seconds of PK time last year, meaning we've got a load of question marks.

 

For my money, I think our best bet is to try to add penalty killing to Virtanen's game and leave it at that. I think him plus Motte/Pearson/Eriksson should hold us over alright until Roussel returns. Who knows, maybe Jake will become the next Matt Cooke of scoring shorties!

 

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