gameburn Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I am of the mind that the Canucks need to move on in general from their older veterans over the next few years And let the young leaders take over completely...…... To me, having Louie hanging around, is counter productive, as the players all know what is what, they know who is contributing, and they know who's spot he is taking. I honestly think that has a negative impact on the players, as they want to see the guys that deserve it, playing. I also see there being more than 1 option available to Benning......with Louie #1. Keep him in Vancouver, playing him occasionally #2. Sent him to Utica to ride the bus #3. Buy him out......severe relations with him completely #4. Have him retire, and have him scout #5. Loan him to the SHL and let him play out the rest of his playing days #6. Let him sit around here, and pay him his $4 Million signing bonus, then let him retire My preference is to waive Louie to Utica, to make is completely transparent, that we are moving on for him, and give him his options which down there in Utica, bouncing back and forth on a bus. I think it would be a lot easier for Louie to come to a conclusion down there, and it may be earlier, than July 1st. I honestly think it is way to easy for Louie to just sit back and collect his pay checks here I would far rather platoon, MacEwen, Bailey, Lind, Graovac, etc up and give them experience, throughout the season, so as to have call ups that would already have some time playing in the NHL, when it's playoff time. Also, when Roussel comes back, the fur will fly anyways Again: the Kovalchuk situation comes to mind and that is very current. Quite a few teams have Eriksson-like situations. Perhaps every team in the league to varying degrees. Your key additions to this discussion we have been having over the last 2 years are valuable: 1. he will get on to making a decision quicker if he is riding the bus in Utica, rather than continuing on like usual in a comfortable Vancouver bed, private planes, nutritionist and high end trainers, etc. Very important point. Anyone who has procrastinated knows how this works, lol. 2. there have to be more options than keeping him here playing or keeping him here on the bench/pressbox. 3. the other players he is costing us in opportunity time. And the morale problem. I think the players who work hard (Tanev, Beagle, etc.,) are perfectly aware of what a farce this is becoming. Given Horvat's quick reaction (and good judgment) regarding the Cherry firing... I think we can guess at how Horvat might see this. I favour waiving him (then pressboxing him once he's there in Utica?) rather than any form of rewarding him with money/soft slide to Sweden, etc. How many millions has he put aside for himself, he can afford this. Roussel, Lind, MacEwen, and already Gaudette: Eriksson is not going to be getting ANY playing time soon. It is so obviously time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: #1. Keep him in Vancouver, playing him occasionally #2. Sent him to Utica to ride the bus #3. Buy him out......severe relations with him completely #4. Have him retire, and have him scout #5. Loan him to the SHL and let him play out the rest of his playing days #6. Let him sit around here, and pay him his $4 Million signing bonus, then let him retire #7. pay him his bonus next off season and trade him to a team like ottawa that needs to meet the cap floor. there is speculation out there that this could again be a thing next offseason. Many of those ltir contracts are expiring this season i guess. Edited November 15, 2019 by coastal.view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, coastal.view said: #7. pay him his bonus next off season and trade him to a team like ottawa that needs to meet the cap floor. there is speculation out there that this could again be a thing next offseason. Many of those ltir contracts are expiring this season i guess. Yes, looks like 12 million worth off of LTIR...….that is a good Point Edited November 15, 2019 by janisahockeynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: the team and coaching staff would know if the effort wasn't there, and they would not put him on the ice if that at least wasn't there. The rest of it is conspiracy theory worthy imo. Age related decline, it is what it is. I think AG has certainly beat him out for a spot and Roussel is now just a few weeks from returning. That seals Loui's fate unless there's some wave of new injuries. I'm curious as to whether he'll be in tonight's line up. I'd think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 13 hours ago, aqua59 said: I'm curious as to whether he'll be in tonight's line up. I'd think not. looks like we were both wrong ah well onward as they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: looks like we were both wrong ah well onward as they say There's a first time for everything, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hairy Kneel Posted November 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) LE is like that trick birthday candle you think is out than it's not. Edited November 17, 2019 by Hairy Kneel 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I am no good with posting pics etc.... I think I saw an Eriksson. I diid I diid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 12:11 PM, Hairy Kneel said: LE is like that trick birthday candle you think is out than it's not. like a rash that won't go away? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) On 11/17/2019 at 5:12 PM, Glug Datt said: like a rash that won't go away? Usually in that case, someone scored. Not with LE though. Edited November 19, 2019 by King Heffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 5:12 PM, Glug Datt said: like a rash that won't go away? Needs to develop a rash, like an allergy to his gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Heard LE was practicing today with Beagle and Schaller on the 4 th line... Now the good news is, Rousell was practicing today as well without his IR jersey on. hurry up T. Motte ! Edited November 19, 2019 by SilentSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) On 11/14/2019 at 5:18 PM, coastal.view said: #7. pay him his bonus next off season and trade him to a team like ottawa that needs to meet the cap floor. there is speculation out there that this could again be a thing next offseason. Many of those ltir contracts are expiring this season i guess. The below makes a total mockery of the NHL cap system yet the Canucks get retroactively hammered for negotiating a contract that was not outside the parameters of the existing agreement. Ottawa has over $20 Milllion in cap for players not even playing so they can make the cap floor. Disgusting. Loui would fit Ottawa's model - the Value Village of the NHL - depends what they want I guess. I am surprised Jimmy Hoffa isn't on this list. Edited November 19, 2019 by Borvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Borvat said: The below makes a total mockery of the NHL cap system yet the Canucks get retroactively hammered for negotiating a contract that was not outside the parameters of the existing agreement. Ottawa has over $20 Milllion in cap for players not even playing so they can make the cap floor. Disgusting. Loui would fit Ottawa's model - the Value Village of the NHL - depends what they want I guess. I am surprised Jimmy Hoffa isn't on this list. get over the luongo issue there were warnings issued by the league about this sort of contract this outcome was part of a collective agreement so the penalty was adopted and agreed to by all owners including the canuck owners i get it you are not happy about it but stop with the nonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Borvat said: The below makes a total mockery of the NHL cap system yet the Canucks get retroactively hammered for negotiating a contract that was not outside the parameters of the existing agreement. Ottawa has over $20 Milllion in cap for players not even playing so they can make the cap floor. Disgusting. Loui would fit Ottawa's model - the Value Village of the NHL - depends what they want I guess. I am surprised Jimmy Hoffa isn't on this list. bettman is a corrupt little midget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: get over the luongo issue there were warnings issued by the league about this sort of contract this outcome was part of a collective agreement so the penalty was adopted and agreed to by all owners including the canuck owners i get it you are not happy about it but stop with the nonsense Meanwhile Chicago gets to fake an illness to get out of it? There is no way Hossa's crippling medical condition is legitimate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Meanwhile Chicago gets to fake an illness to get out of it? There is no way Hossa's crippling medical condition is legitimate. fake an illness ok then dr, heffy you are all knowing clearly luongo could have gone the illness route and chose not to so how is that on the league or the system? nucks screwed him over he screwed over the nucks you know the old saying - there is no wrath like that of a goalie scorned i think i have that right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: get over the luongo issue there were warnings issued by the league about this sort of contract this outcome was part of a collective agreement so the penalty was adopted and agreed to by all owners including the canuck owners i get it you are not happy about it but stop with the nonsense If my opinion is nonsense I guess that can be said for any of yours. I guess in a sense then this is really all nonsense. Like your obsessive haikuish nonsense which is actually quite annoying. However, I won't tell you to stop. It appears it gives you some sort of pleasure. Carry on. Edited November 19, 2019 by Borvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, coastal.view said: get over the luongo issue there were warnings issued by the league about this sort of contract this outcome was part of a collective agreement so the penalty was adopted and agreed to by all owners including the canuck owners i get it you are not happy about it but stop with the nonsense I think your point is valid coastal......but what bugs me is this #1...……..Ottawa and Toronto to name a few are circumventing the cap in much the same way as Vancouver did. And please don't argue semantics, because you know exactly what I mean (I say respectfully) #2...……..I would also argue that Vancouver should have never agreed, and in principle, decided to go with the old boys club, instead of their own and the fans. Honestly, I do not know why they were not more vocal about this...….IMO, they owed us the fans, at least the argument #3...…….It is effecting our team, and that is why it will not go away...…….. #4...…….And your point...…...not any amount of bitching will change the outcome. (I get it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I think your point is valid coastal......but what bugs me is this #1...……..Ottawa and Toronto to name a few are circumventing the cap in much the same way as Vancouver did. And please don't argue semantics, because you know exactly what I mean (I say respectfully) #2...……..I would also argue that Vancouver should have never agreed, and in principle, decided to go with the old boys club, instead of their own and the fans. Honestly, I do not know why they were not more vocal about this...….IMO, they owed us the fans, at least the argument #3...…….It is effecting our team, and that is why it will not go away...…….. #4...…….And your point...…...not any amount of bitching will change the outcome. (I get it!) It appears the Canucks are not happy about it either. No one said this will change but I do not have to agree with it or like it - it smells. https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/ben-kuzma-no-cap-recapture-relief-for-canucks-after-panthers-hire-roberto-luongo https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/so-called-luongo-rule-petty-vindictive-counterintuitive-and-cute Edited November 19, 2019 by Borvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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