MaxVerstappen33 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, butters said: And you think doping in sports falls under the category of overly controlling? You would rather have athletes be forced to dope in order to compete (which is what would happen)? Yes I do. You are at the very best a statist if you think that the only thing standing between chaos and civility is government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, LolClarkson said: Yes I do. You are at the very best a statist if you think that the only thing standing between chaos and civility is government. Keep politics out of this lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 hours ago, LolClarkson said: Yes I do. You are at the very best a statist if you think that the only thing standing between chaos and civility is government. well you might be happy in somalia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 13 hours ago, LolClarkson said: Yes I do. You are at the very best a statist if you think that the only thing standing between chaos and civility is government. It's been proven that without controls the only athletes that make it to the top levels dope. Even with controls, the vast majority of top level athletes are doping. Sorry, that's just human nature. It's also a self-selecting process. If you don't dope, you can only get so far. Everyone is talented at the top and everyone is working hard. Doping is a huge advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 4 hours ago, taxi said: It's been proven that without controls the only athletes that make it to the top levels dope. Even with controls, the vast majority of top level athletes are doping. Sorry, that's just human nature. It's also a self-selecting process. If you don't dope, you can only get so far. Everyone is talented at the top and everyone is working hard. Doping is a huge advantage. Do NHL players dope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, Hugor Hill said: Do NHL players dope? Doping gives you a huge advantage. The line between NHL star and career AHLer is razor thin. The NHL also writes kids off at 18. Either all of the talent in the NHL is so talented that they can beat people using PEDs, or a lot of the players have or do use PEDs. It's no coincidence that there is a rash of blood clotting and circulatory diseases, a common side effect of blood doping. Testing in the NHL is also a joke, as they don't test in the off-season. You just need to time your PED cycles correctly. Keep in mind that steroid users do not use steroids constantly. They cycle on and off. 2 cycles/year would be what a professional bodybuilder might use. 1 cycle a year would still be a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 15 hours ago, butters said: well you might be happy in somalia See ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, LolClarkson said: See ? its an example of a region without government... whats the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 4 hours ago, taxi said: Doping gives you a huge advantage. The line between NHL star and career AHLer is razor thin. The NHL also writes kids off at 18. Either all of the talent in the NHL is so talented that they can beat people using PEDs, or a lot of the players have or do use PEDs. It's no coincidence that there is a rash of blood clotting and circulatory diseases, a common side effect of blood doping. Testing in the NHL is also a joke, as they don't test in the off-season. You just need to time your PED cycles correctly. Keep in mind that steroid users do not use steroids constantly. They cycle on and off. 2 cycles/year would be what a professional bodybuilder might use. 1 cycle a year would still be a lot. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 hours ago, butters said: its an example of a region without government... whats the issue? If you think that Somalia is a serious example of an experiment with limited government then you obviously don't have any basic knowledge of these subjects and your comments should not be taken seriously by anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 14 hours ago, Hugor Hill said: What do you mean? If you don't get drafted at 18 it's very difficult to make it to the NHL. Naturally a lot of guys don't physically mature until their late twenties. It creates a lot of pressure to accelerate the maturing process with drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 3 hours ago, LolClarkson said: If you think that Somalia is a serious example of an experiment with limited government then you obviously don't have any basic knowledge of these subjects and your comments should not be taken seriously by anyone And the example of a large society functioning without government is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 hours ago, LolClarkson said: If you think that Somalia is a serious example of an experiment with limited government then you obviously don't have any basic knowledge of these subjects and your comments should not be taken seriously by anyone Who said anything about an experiment? Its a region without a government. That's what you want, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Man I hate the way DC fight. The Aldo Edgar fight was the best IMO. And good to see a healthy and different Brock Lesnar. People will boo him not matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leomessi Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 3:58 PM, taxi said: Doping gives you a huge advantage. The line between NHL star and career AHLer is razor thin. The NHL also writes kids off at 18. Either all of the talent in the NHL is so talented that they can beat people using PEDs, or a lot of the players have or do use PEDs. It's no coincidence that there is a rash of blood clotting and circulatory diseases, a common side effect of blood doping. Testing in the NHL is also a joke, as they don't test in the off-season. You just need to time your PED cycles correctly. Keep in mind that steroid users do not use steroids constantly. They cycle on and off. 2 cycles/year would be what a professional bodybuilder might use. 1 cycle a year would still be a lot. bodybuilders stay "on" throughout the year --- so there one cycle is consists of them being on for the whole year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 17 minutes ago, leomessi said: bodybuilders stay "on" throughout the year --- so there one cycle is consists of them being on for the whole year There might be some nut jobs out there, but every bodybuilder I've ever heard of does cycles, which involve going off cycle to allow the body's natural testosterone to start again and to give the organs a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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