-Vintage Canuck- Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Quote Bobby Orr has a solution to curb injuries and increase creativity in today's NHL: bring back the two-line offside pass rule. "I think we have to put the center red line (passing rule) back ... (to prevent) injuries and because the game is being played the same now," Orr told Lance Hornby of the Toronto Sun. "You can pass from your zone all the way to the other line, deflect it in, go get it and shoot it out. Back and forth. If you have to carry that puck out of your end and make a pass, skate with it, it makes it different." Removed from the rule book following the lost 2004-05 NHL season with a view to creating a faster and more exciting game, the two-line pass rule forced a stoppage in play if a pass originating from inside a team's defensive zone was completed on the opposite side of the center red line, unless the puck crossed the line before the player. In Orr's view, however, the rule change is no longer accomplishing its goal. "I don’t think (removing the line) has increased the offence, nor has the trapezoid," he added. "It’s made it a dangerous game, guys flying out of their end, looking for that long stretch pass and bang, they’re being hit. These guys are so much bigger and faster than when I played." The topic was broached at the 2012 NHL general managers meeting, but was put on the back burner for the time being. Maybe the game's greatest defenseman and current player agent will be able to put the discussion back on the table. http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1079678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 With all due respect to Mr. Orr, no thanks. I just think of the numbers Bure could have put up without that rule and it bums me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: With all due respect to Mr. Orr, no thanks. I just think of the numbers Bure could have put up without that rule and it bums me out. Or how about Gretzky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: Or how about Gretzky. Oh yeah, that guy...I think I've heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Disagree with Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobble Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Orr we could not and say we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Or they could just start consistently punishing players who throw illegal hits instead of picking and choosing who to punish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 He's just worried that Karlsson is going to start smashing his records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Removing the 2-line offside was probably the best decision the NHL made in the last 20 years. Can you image what the game would be like, over-coached as it is, with the offside rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, StealthNuck said: Removing the 2-line offside was probably the best decision the NHL made in the last 20 years. Can you image what the game would be like, over-coached as it is, with the offside rule? Agreed. The trap for one would make a resurgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Disagree. Would rather make the rinks bigger than bringing back the 2 line pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THERETOOL Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 He's putting the players safety in front of entertainment value .. he's doing that because he is an empathetic human being who knows the game better than any of us ever will , and that someone is gonna die out there . I had a chance to hear him talk about it once during a summit in vancouver . While it may not help with goal scoring numbers , it may save lives . With the size of the players and the speed of the game changing , leagues like the NHL and NFL are going to have to adapt . like it or not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassetgreg Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 the best way to improve the game is allowing only one coach behind the bench overcoaching is the problem mistakes = fun hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Westcoasting said: Or how about Gretzky. Unless he's right. The point is that it may not help offense at all. It would be hard to go back though. That rule changed right in the middle of minor hockey for me, many years before the NHL did it. The rule always looked wrong on TV during those overlapping years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The trapezoid is horrible, the instigator rule is horrible. You want to score more, 2 min penalties are served in their entirety. Allow kicked in goals outside of the crease. Make the blue lines wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I agree with him. Creative plays involving all five players are a thing of the past, unfortunately. Like Luongo once said, (paraphrasing here) "More scoring isn't entertaining. More scoring chances is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neko Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The game is getting faster, enforcers/grinders are getting phased out. Couldn't tell you if reintroducing the 2-line rule would change the game that much other than encourage teams to start picking up enforcers and grinders again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 22 minutes ago, Creepy Crawler said: The game is getting faster, enforcers/grinders are getting phased out. Couldn't tell you if reintroducing the 2-line rule would change the game that much other than encourage teams to start picking up enforcers and grinders again. The salary cap is forcing out the marginal players...as well as the instigator rule, to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Since Orr played through injuries in what would be primitive equipment by today's standards. Was one of the most dynamic players be it defence or offence. He's also a player agent, I think he has a pretty good idea of what works, and want's to protect players. It would be at least interesting to have it at the ECHL or AHL level to try it? Maybe drop the instigator rule and the trapezoid. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I respect his accomplishments but slowing down the game isn't the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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