Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I just noticed CanucksArmy is doing their annual rankings before the season starts. They're already at no. 5, so I guess not many have been paying attention. I'm creating this thread as a means of discussing their rankings, and what qualifies as a prospect. I won't link their stuff, as that somehow qualifies as click bait on here, but feel free to check out their site for yourself. --------------- So far: 20 - F Michael Carcone (signed this summer out of prospect camp) 19 - D Ashton Sautner (Signed last summer out of prospect camp, got a one game call up with the Canucks this past season) 18 - F Alex Grenier 17 - F Lukas Jasek (6th Round 2015) 16 - D Carl Neill 15 - F Cole Cassels 14 - D Troy Stecher 13 - F Adam Gaudette 12 - D Cole Candella (5th round 2016) 11 - D Guillaume Brisebois 10 - F Dmitry Zhukenov 9 - D Tate Olson 8 - D Andrey Pedan 7 - D Jordan Subban 6 - F Brendan Gaunce 5 - D Nikita Tryamkin TBA: 4 3 2 1 ------------------ I would have liked to see Stecher and Gaudette in the top 10 ahead of Zhukenov and Olson. They're further along and Gaudette's freshman campaign is nothing to sneeze at. For me a notable exemption is Lockwood - either he doesn't rank or is in the top 4.... Does Virtanen qualify as a prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I just noticed CanucksArmy is doing their annual rankings before the season starts. They're already at no. 5, so I guess not many have been paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just now, Twilight Sparkle said: That's a pre-gyarados, show it some respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Ossi Vaananen said: That's a pre-gyarados, show it some respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 The top four will be Juolevi, Demko, Boeser and Virtanen. #spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just now, Toews said: The top four will be Juolevi, Demko, Boeser and Virtanen. #spoiler But in what order good sir? Maybe Virtanen no longer qualifies as a prospect as he made the big club. Then they throw us all a curve ball and slot Lockwood in there. It's beacause of these mind games that I made this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just now, Ossi Vaananen said: But in what order good sir? Maybe Virtanen no longer qualifies as a prospect as he made the big club. Then they throw us all a curve ball and slot Lockwood in there. It's beacause of these mind games that I made this thread. I would go all in on Virtanen still being a prospect. My best guess is him being 4th. Lockwood doesn't have the gaudy numbers needed to be placed that high. One would have to watch him a fair bit and be seriously impressed with what they saw to place him that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Pretty hard to see Zhukenov at 10 when his sample size is fairly small considering that other guys such as Grenier and Cassels have been playing in the AHL and have had equal if not significantly better comparable years in junior. I'd put Zhuk in the 17-20 range for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Virtanen wont be in the list; no longer an NHL rookie. The top 4 will be: 4. Rodin 3. Juolevi 2. Demko 1. Boeser getting the exact order will be tough. Rodin will for sure be 4th though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Also, there is no way the put Lockwood on the list. 0 statistical matches. Their rating system does not look kindly on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I just noticed CanucksArmy is doing their annual rankings before the season starts. They're already at no. 5, so I guess not many have been paying attention. I'm creating this thread as a means of discussing their rankings, and what qualifies as a prospect. I won't link their stuff, as that somehow qualifies as click bait on here, but feel free to check out their site for yourself. --------------- So far: 20 - F Michael Carcone (signed this summer out of prospect camp) 19 - D Ashton Sautner (Signed last summer out of prospect camp, got a one game call up with the Canucks this past season) 18 - F Alex Grenier 17 - F Lukas Jasek (6th Round 2015) 16 - D Carl Neill 15 - F Cole Cassels 14 - D Troy Stecher 13 - F Adam Gaudette 12 - D Cole Candella (5th round 2016) 11 - D Guillaume Brisebois 10 - F Dmitry Zhukenov 9 - D Tate Olson 8 - D Andrey Pedan 7 - D Jordan Subban 6 - F Brendan Gaunce 5 - D Nikita Tryamkin TBA: 4 3 2 1 ------------------ I would have liked to see Stecher and Gaudette in the top 10 ahead of Zhukenov and Olson. They're further along and Gaudette's freshman campaign is nothing to sneeze at. For me a notable exemption is Lockwood - either he doesn't rank or is in the top 4.... Does Virtanen qualify as a prospect? MCKenzie Stewert will be in the top 4...kidding..what happened there,,he doesnt even rate a number ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 How would Lockwood be in the top 5? He's put up far bellow average numbers And is small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, ken kaniff said: How would Lockwood be in the top 5? He's put up far bellow average numbers And is small. I was just spitballing. I don't think Virtanen should be considered a prospect, and we need another name to fill that void. Perhaps supplant your own top 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, wshdrvvn said: Virtanen wont be in the list; no longer an NHL rookie. The top 4 will be: 4. Rodin 3. Juolevi 2. Demko 1. Boeser getting the exact order will be tough. Rodin will for sure be 4th though. I hadn't considered Rodin, as he would essentially be a 26 y/o rookie. I'm with you on Virtanen though, not someone who should be considered a prospect. Of the 3 we know, I'd go: 3. Boeser 2. Juolevi 1. Demko I think Demko is a beast and his college numbers last year are out of this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 33 minutes ago, ShakyWalton said: MCKenzie Stewert will be in the top 4...kidding..what happened there,,he doesnt even rate a number ? Ya, Stewart and Lockwood at least deserve a later number. Candella at 12, Zhukenov at 10 and Olson at 9 all have me scratching my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Ossi Vaananen said: I was just spitballing. I don't think Virtanen should be considered a prospect, and we need another name to fill that void. Perhaps supplant your own top 4? I agree with you that Virtanen shouldn't be a prospect anymore since he played his 1st year in pro already. But if he is not i really don't see how that top 4 could work without him unless there is someone we are greatly overlooking. 4. Jake Virtanen 3. Olli Juolevi 2. Brock Boeser 1. Thatcher Demko And is Rodin really still considered a prospect? Edit: Without Virtanen 4. Michael Garteig 3. Olli Juolevi 2. Brock Boeser 1. Thatcher Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo2337 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 How would Virtanen be a prospect after putting in a whole NHL season? If you include rookies, I'd give the nod to Hutton instead. Tough to pick the order though?? 1. Boeser 2. Demko 3. Juolevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 4 Boeser - great season on a stacked team. Can he follow it up without all the support? 3 Demko - big difference between college shooters and seasoned pros, we'll see how he does in Utica. 2 Virt - already showed he belongs in the pros. Doubling his pts & PIM's wouldn't be unrealistic. 1 Juolevi - most sought after commodity in the NHL right now is an all-situations, young, PMD and he is one of the best in the CHL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 The criteria is calder eligibility, straight up, if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, The Bookie said: The criteria is calder eligibility, straight up, if that helps. So you're saying you work at CA and that Rodin is magically a prospect again. I SEE HOW IT IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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